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  • Kaleokualoha 2012/05/04 19:43:10
    No, Global Warming is REAL!!
    Kaleokualoha
    +14
    SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS REGARDING CLIMATE CHANGE

    The consensus of the scientific community is "There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. . . . the Fourth Assessment Report finds that human actions are "very likely" the cause of global warming, meaning a 90% or greater probability."

    1. As a matter of FACT, "consensus" IS used regarding scientific judgment:

    [QUOTE]
    Scientific consensus is the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity. Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not part of the scientific method. Nevertheless, consensus may be based on both scientific arguments and the scientific method.[1]

    Consensus is normally achieved through communication at conferences, the publication process, replication (reproducible results by others) and peer review. These lead to a situation in which those within the discipline can often recognize such a consensus where it exists, but communicating to outsiders that consensus has been reached can be difficult, because the 'normal' debates through which science progresses may seem to outside...






























































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    SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS REGARDING CLIMATE CHANGE

    The consensus of the scientific community is "There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. . . . the Fourth Assessment Report finds that human actions are "very likely" the cause of global warming, meaning a 90% or greater probability."

    1. As a matter of FACT, "consensus" IS used regarding scientific judgment:

    [QUOTE]
    Scientific consensus is the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity. Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not part of the scientific method. Nevertheless, consensus may be based on both scientific arguments and the scientific method.[1]

    Consensus is normally achieved through communication at conferences, the publication process, replication (reproducible results by others) and peer review. These lead to a situation in which those within the discipline can often recognize such a consensus where it exists, but communicating to outsiders that consensus has been reached can be difficult, because the 'normal' debates through which science progresses may seem to outsiders as contestation.[2]

    Scientific consensus may be invoked in popular or political debate on subjects that are controversial within the public sphere but which may not be controversial within the scientific community, such as evolution[3][4] or the claimed linkage of MMR vaccinations and autism.[2]
    [END QUOTE - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ]


    2. Further, as a matter of fact, SCIENTISTS use the term "consensus" regarding climate change:

    [QUOTE]
    Scientific consensus on Climate Change

    A question that frequently arises in popular discussion of climate change is whether there is a scientific consensus on climate change.[125] Several scientific organizations have explicitly used the term "consensus" in their statements:

    American Association for the Advancement of Science, 2006: "The conclusions in this statement reflect the scientific consensus represented by, for example, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and the Joint National Academies' statement."[32]

    US National Academy of Sciences: "In the judgment of most climate scientists, Earth’s warming in recent decades has been caused primarily by human activities that have increased the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. ... On climate change, [the National Academies’ reports] have assessed consensus findings on the science..."[126]

    Joint Science Academies' statement, 2005: "We recognise the international scientific consensus of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)."[127]

    Joint Science Academies' statement, 2001: "The work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) represents the consensus of the international scientific community on climate change science. We recognise IPCC as the world’s most reliable source of information on climate change and its causes, and we endorse its method of achieving this consensus."[13]

    American Meteorological Society, 2003: "The nature of science is such that there is rarely total agreement among scientists. Individual scientific statements and papers—the validity of some of which has yet to be assessed adequately—can be exploited in the policy debate and can leave the impression that the scientific community is sharply divided on issues where there is, in reality, a strong scientific consensus.... IPCC assessment reports are prepared at approximately five-year intervals by a large international group of experts who represent the broad range of expertise and perspectives relevant to the issues. The reports strive to reflect a consensus evaluation of the results of the full body of peer-reviewed research.... They provide an analysis of what is known and not known, the degree of consensus, and some indication of the degree of confidence that can be placed on the various statements and conclusions."[128] -
    [END QUOTE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...


    3. As a matter of FACT, scientific consensus is irrefutable. The list of concurring scientific organizations includes:

    American Geophysical Union: http://www.agu.org/sci_pol/po...

    American Physical Society: http://www.aps.org/policy/sta...

    The Royal Society: http://royalsociety.org/polic...

    European Academy of Sciences and Arts: http://royalsociety.org/polic...

    American Association for the Advancement of Science: http://www.aaas.org/news/pres...

    American Chemical Society: http://www.aaas.org/news/pres...

    American Institute of Physics: http://www.aip.org/fyi/2004/0...

    Australian Institute of Physics: http://www.aip.org.au/about.p...

    American Geophysical Union: http://www.agu.org/sci_pol/po...

    American Public Health Association: http://www.apha.org/advocacy/...

    Canadian Federation of Earth Sciences: http://geoscience.ca/_ARCHIVE...

    European Science Foundation:

    American Medical Association: http://www.ama.com.au/node/44...

    World Health Organization: http://www.who.int/world-heal...

    American Statistical Association: http://www.amstat.org/news/cl...

    American Association of Petroleum Geologists: http://dpa.aapg.org/gac/state...

    American Association of State Climatologists: http://www.stateclimate.org/p...

    NASA: http://climate.nasa.gov/evide...

    National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/...

    4. As a matter of FACT, dissenting opinion is relegated to the fringe:

    [QUOTE]
    No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position.[2][3] Some other organizations, primarily those focusing on geology, also hold non-committal positions.
    [END QUOTE - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ]


    "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642)
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  • A Woman... Starman 2012/05/07 00:04:17
    A Woman's View~JLA
    Nope...not a radical right-wing.....just not following the sheeple! I happen to use my common sense that God Gave me...do my own research from both points of view and decide for myself what either side is wanting to obtain for themselves....then I make up my mind!

    If I was totally right-wing like you assume...I would be shoving my opinion down your throat...I'm not...I'm just giving you information of the other side of this subject and allowing you the freedom to be wrong.

    Though you sure seem to be a radical eco-warrior and left-wing subject... Personal attacks are a favorite way of this group when they feel they are losing the argument...have you hugged your tree today? BTW....Mother Nature does not follow so-called scientific theories...she does as she darn well pleases, no matter what mere men happen to think she should be doing.

    Until the other countries who are major polluters start cleaning up their act...anything that North America could possibly do is totally lost! Until you can change mother nature's mind about letting volcanoes erupt....there is nothing that us little men could possibly do to change the cooling or warming of the globe.

    Perhaps you should check out on-line just how much Canada and America add to the Carbon footprint....you would find that there is very l...



    Nope...not a radical right-wing.....just not following the sheeple! I happen to use my common sense that God Gave me...do my own research from both points of view and decide for myself what either side is wanting to obtain for themselves....then I make up my mind!

    If I was totally right-wing like you assume...I would be shoving my opinion down your throat...I'm not...I'm just giving you information of the other side of this subject and allowing you the freedom to be wrong.

    Though you sure seem to be a radical eco-warrior and left-wing subject... Personal attacks are a favorite way of this group when they feel they are losing the argument...have you hugged your tree today? BTW....Mother Nature does not follow so-called scientific theories...she does as she darn well pleases, no matter what mere men happen to think she should be doing.

    Until the other countries who are major polluters start cleaning up their act...anything that North America could possibly do is totally lost! Until you can change mother nature's mind about letting volcanoes erupt....there is nothing that us little men could possibly do to change the cooling or warming of the globe.

    Perhaps you should check out on-line just how much Canada and America add to the Carbon footprint....you would find that there is very little to the over-all accumulation.....

    I do hope you are done now with the personal attacks just because I don't happen to agree with you and your theories.

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  • Starman A Woman... 2012/05/07 02:34:06
    Starman
    You are so right wing you couldn't see the center using Hubble.

    You need to Be consistent, either global climate change is not human caused, or changes made by north America won't be enough to fix the problem. Which is it?
  • A Woman... Starman 2012/05/10 08:48:36
    A Woman's View~JLA
    Global climate change is not man made.... but you seem to think it is....green house gases that come from industries...so look at China and India...they make more green house gas emissions than Canada or the USA....

    I know where I stand! I'm conservative...not radical right-wing. I allow people to have their opinions...I usually do not personally attack them either for their views unless they wish to play that game...then I'll oblige them.

    So do you wanna play that game? Little-minded-left-wing radical-eco-warrior....grow up!
  • Starman A Woman... 2012/05/10 13:47:00
    Starman
    You are welcome to you own opinions, but you are not welcome to your own facts. I frankly don't understand this religious right wing denyal of science and logic. What ever happened to the requirement to be good stewards of the earth? I'd you can't reconcile you religious beliefs with the facts, it time to reevaluate your radical religious stand, not make up crap and pretend it's "god's gospel truth".
  • A Woman... Starman 2012/05/13 23:43:06
    A Woman's View~JLA
    Ha ha ha.....you are so funny! I am not radically religious...matter of factly....I am not affiliated with any Church or even any religion. So guess your opinion was not a fact!....

    When you start using logic...let me know okay? I haven't yet seen one thing you've posted that would even come close to logic. At least I've said that the Global warming theory hasn't been fully decided yet and I'm willing to explore other reasons for it...I won't just accept that scientists say so, so it must be truth!

    Frankly....I think it's just how Mother Nature works...sometimes it's colder and sometimes it's warmer.....

    speaking of making up crap....

    you must pull stuff out of your backside....cuz it's so far from having anything to do with reality. All you have assumed about me is just your opinion...nothing even close to facts. You don't know me!!!

    But it's typical of you eco-warrior types...when you no longer can put anything up to prove your case and you are losing the argument...resort to personal attacks of your adversary!

    Very Mature of you!....LMAO!!

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  • ack Starman 2012/05/06 17:26:07
    ack
    What caused the last Ice age to end?
  • Starman ack 2012/05/06 19:00:30
    Starman
    There have been broad swings in temperature in the past, but the science shows that this one is being caused by humans. We have been very lucky that the temperature has stayed relatively stable for the last 10,000 years, if we upset that stability it could well spell the end of the human race.
  • ack Starman 2012/05/07 17:39:46
  • Starman ack 2012/05/07 19:17:28
    Starman
    For every article, like this one from a questionable source (this one is from a director of Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation) there are thousands from real scientific sources proving human caused global climat change.
  • ack Starman 2012/05/07 21:42:08
    ack
    So what. The computer models can't even get known weather history predicted correctly. What about all the deceptions and scandals? The changing,losing or correcting of raw data?
    http://www.climatedepot.com/a...

    Secretary Of Defense Proves That He Belongs In The Obama Administration
    Posted on May 4, 2012

    Panetta warned today that disappearing sea ice threatens the US. Meanwhile, the National Weather Service warned today of record sea ice.

    NOAK48 PAFC 032215
    PNSAFC

    PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
    215 PM AKDT THU MAY 3 2012

    …RECORD SEA ICE AT PRIBILOF ISLANDS…

    THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTREME WINTER FOR SEA ICE IN THE BERING SEA AND NOW WE HAVE BROKEN THE RECORDS FOR MOST NUMBER OF DAYS WITH ICE AT BOTH SAINT PAUL ISLAND AND SAINT GEORGE ISLAND.

    AS OF TODAY SEA ICE HAS BEEN AT SAINT PAUL ISLAND FOR 103 DAYS THIS WINTER BREAKING THE PREVIOUS RECORD OF 100 DAYS SET IN 2010.

    THE NUMBER OF DAYS WITH SEA ICE AT SAINT GEORGE ISLAND TOTALED 79 WHEN THE ICE RETREATED NORTH ON THE 25TH OF APRIL. THE PREVIOUS RECORD OF 60 DAYS WAS SET IN 2010.
  • Starman ack 2012/05/07 21:46:51
    Starman
    So what? Science, we dont need no stinkin science. Pitiful. What ever happened to taking responsibility for your actions and being good stewarts of the earth.
  • ack Starman 2012/05/11 20:56:41
    ack
    Never said we shouldn't take good care of the earth. This whole thing is about a one world totalitarian government hell bent on destroying America and knocking her down to third world status.
  • Starman ack 2012/05/11 22:56:10
    Starman
    OK then. I think you just earned your RWNJ badge.
  • A Woman... ack 2012/05/06 21:44:09
    A Woman's View~JLA
    +1
    ack...it's no use...you're just confusing him with facts. He doesn't want to research or read both sides to figure it out for himself....he has closed his mind.
  • Warren ... ack 2012/05/07 04:40:27
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +1
    Milankovitch cycles.
  • ack Starman 2012/05/07 21:23:02
    ack
    And I suppose the "hockey stick" graphic is an acurate prepresentatiuon of the past?
  • ALofRI 2012/05/04 19:29:14
    No, Global Warming is REAL!!
    ALofRI
    +9
    97% of climate involved scientists say it IS. How much convincing do we need? There were 15000 heat records broken in 2010. How much convincing do we need?? The polar ice caps are melting at an alarming rate, how much convincing do we need?? Countries (including the U.S.)are spending $Billions to protect property from rising waters coming in the next few years. How much convincing do we need??

    We'd rather listen to the well paid 3%, most of whom are connected with an agenda, that may have to spend some money to try to slow it, OR simply LOVE to hammer Al Gore and them stupid "LIBS"....with "stupidity"! The only good thing is, there is LESS "stupidity" in the REST of the world....I guess because they don't listen to American conservatives.
  • BlueRep... ALofRI 2012/05/04 19:46:38
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    they also miss out on.....
    fox news
  • ALofRI BlueRep... 2012/05/04 20:10:50
    ALofRI
    +2
    That DOES give them an advantage. Of course our being 25th in the world in science education also gives us an excuse to show stupidity to the rest of the world. Wait til we dump the Board of Education and turn to "Privately Funded Schools" that will teach ONLY what they want us to learn, and what will further THEIR agenda (I know the Kochs are doing this already), we'll then be in REAL trouble!
  • ack ALofRI 2012/05/04 21:46:29
    ack
    +2
    Isn't it funny how Al Gore refuses to debate a weatherman named Brain Susman
  • ALofRI ack 2012/05/05 15:29:34
    ALofRI
    Debating someone with a "fixed" agenda isn't a debate. May as well debate the "dining room table".
  • kudabux 2012/05/04 19:11:36
    No, Global Warming is REAL!!
    kudabux
    +8
    Man made or a natural occurrence, it is real. Just ask a Polar Bear.
    polar bear
  • Bucky a... kudabux 2012/05/04 19:29:27
  • kudabux Bucky a... 2012/05/04 19:36:56
  • Bucky a... kudabux 2012/05/04 20:48:40
    Bucky aka KINGPIN
    +3
    Polar bear numbers up, but rescue continues?! o.O
    http://www.nationalpost.com/n...
  • kudabux Bucky a... 2012/05/04 21:46:42
    kudabux
    +5
    The reason their numbers are increasing is very plain. It is so warm, they don't hibernate as long, and when they are not hibernating, well, you know what they are doing. LOL polar bears making love
  • Bucky a... kudabux 2012/05/04 21:48:14
    Bucky aka KINGPIN
    +2
    LMAO!!!
  • Sinpac kudabux 2012/05/04 22:02:13
    Sinpac
    +2
    Bear humping ! LOL
  • HoneyBa... Bucky a... 2012/05/04 22:56:26
    HoneyBadger
    +2
    Next humanity will be responsible for Anthropogenic Solar Warming!
    humanity responsible anthropogenic solar warming
  • RogerCo... HoneyBa... 2012/05/05 00:19:07 (edited)
    RogerCoppock
    +1
    Nope, THE SUN IS NOT WARMING, period.
    (If anything, satellite radiometer measurements show the sun has been very very slightly cooling since 1975)



    (Click to enlarge graph.)


    New Data Show Solar Irradiance Continuing to Slowly Fall
    By Roger Coppock 03/11

    ABSTRACT:
    An analysis of newly available satellite Solar irradiance
    measurements from 1976 to 2011 shows a small but statistically
    significant decrease of -0.0124 - 0.0004 Watts per square
    meter per year, or about -0.0009% of mean solar irradiance
    per year, over the 36-year period.

    PROCEDURE AND RESULTS:
    The location of the data's end points within the Solar cycle
    biases a simple linear regression and produces an incorrect
    result. (1.3 times the correct magnitude, or
    -0.0162 - 0.0005 W/m^2 per year.) Therefore, the analysis
    required a non-linear curve fit to a 'line plus sine'
    expression:

    B1 B2*Year B3*SIN(B4 (Year*2Pi)/B5)

    where the determined coefficients B1, B2, B3, B4, and B5
    are known as the intercept, slope, amplitude, phase, and
    period respectively.

    After correcting for the appropriate cycle of the SIN()
    function, (B3>0.0 and 2*Pi>B4>=0.0), and removing 32
    outlier observations 3.5 sigma outside the model, the
    results of the 11811-point curve fit are as follows:

    Irad ~ beta1 beta2 * Year
    beta3 * sin(beta4 (Year * 2*Pi)/beta5)

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    Nope, THE SUN IS NOT WARMING, period.
    (If anything, satellite radiometer measurements show the sun has been very very slightly cooling since 1975)

    Solrad jpg

    (Click to enlarge graph.)


    New Data Show Solar Irradiance Continuing to Slowly Fall
    By Roger Coppock 03/11

    ABSTRACT:
    An analysis of newly available satellite Solar irradiance
    measurements from 1976 to 2011 shows a small but statistically
    significant decrease of -0.0124 - 0.0004 Watts per square
    meter per year, or about -0.0009% of mean solar irradiance
    per year, over the 36-year period.

    PROCEDURE AND RESULTS:
    The location of the data's end points within the Solar cycle
    biases a simple linear regression and produces an incorrect
    result. (1.3 times the correct magnitude, or
    -0.0162 - 0.0005 W/m^2 per year.) Therefore, the analysis
    required a non-linear curve fit to a 'line plus sine'
    expression:

    B1 B2*Year B3*SIN(B4 (Year*2Pi)/B5)

    where the determined coefficients B1, B2, B3, B4, and B5
    are known as the intercept, slope, amplitude, phase, and
    period respectively.

    After correcting for the appropriate cycle of the SIN()
    function, (B3>0.0 and 2*Pi>B4>=0.0), and removing 32
    outlier observations 3.5 sigma outside the model, the
    results of the 11811-point curve fit are as follows:

    Irad ~ beta1 beta2 * Year
    beta3 * sin(beta4 (Year * 2*Pi)/beta5)

    Parameters:
    Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
    beta1 1.391e 03 8.362e-01 1662.987 <2e-16
    beta2 -1.241e-02 4.193e-04 -29.592 <2e-16
    beta3 4.589e-01 5.631e-03 81.498 <2e-16
    beta4 -1.400e 00 2.433e 00 -0.575 0.565
    beta5 1.062e 01 2.190e-02 485.026 <2e-16

    Residual standard error: 0.422 on 11806 degrees of freedom

    Please note the large standard error on beta4, the phase
    of the sine function. Only three cycles of high variance
    data produce this. As an exercise, try to locate the
    peeks and valleys of these data in this graph. Please see:

    http://members.cox.net/rcoppo...

    The data are black. The linear component, both intercept
    and slope, is green. The total 'line plus sine' function
    is red.

    The curve fit was performed by the "R" statistical package
    for Intel Mac OSX, Version 2.10.0.

    The dual cavity radiometer Solar irradiance data come from
    PMODWRC. They cover the period from 01/12/1976 to 02/02/2011.

    http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.ph...

    ftp://ftp.pmodwrc.ch/pub/data...

    A preprocessing program converted month and day information
    into fractional years and removed data marked by PMODWRC as
    invalid.


    DISCUSSION:
    Global warming 'skeptics' often claim that increases in Solar
    radiation reaching the top of Earth's atmosphere, not rising CO2
    concentrations in the atmosphere, are responsible for the observed
    climb of the global mean near surface temperatures in the last
    thirty years. This argument was not supported by the facts.
    Now it is even less so. When the solar cycle was statistically
    removed, prior data showed no significant long term change in
    Solar irradiance large enough to explain the warming, (about an
    3 W/m^2 increase over the last two centuries is needed.) Present
    data actually show a very small but statistically significant
    decrease in solar output over the last three solar cycles. It is
    very hard to support any claim of a solar cause for global warming
    when measurements clearly show decreasing solar output.

    For more information, please see:

    http://www.terradaily.com/rep...

    http://environment.newscienti...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sc...

    A LIST OF 32 OUTLIER POINTS REMOVED
    The number in the data set (after the data marked by PMODWRC as invalid was removed), the year with fraction, and irradiance values in Watts per meter squared are shown.
    Num Date Irradiance
    1536 1981.5591397 1364.0619
    1537 1981.5618279 1363.9227
    1538 1981.5645161 1363.7736
    1539 1981.5698924 1364.0631
    2257 1984.0698924 1363.4285
    2258 1984.0725806 1363.1992
    2259 1984.0752688 1363.0893
    2260 1984.0779569 1363.4477
    2261 1984.0806451 1364.0151
    2344 1984.3194444 1363.4623
    2345 1984.3222222 1363.2828
    2346 1984.325 1363.2427
    2347 1984.3305555 1363.7501
    3783 1988.4972222 1363.8896
    3784 1988.5 1363.7648
    3785 1988.5053763 1363.8917
    4063 1989.2777777 1367.8666
    4064 1989.2805555 1367.9654
    4065 1989.2833333 1367.8665
    4094 1989.3629032 1368.2434
    4641 1990.8861111 1364.0097
    4982 1991.8198924 1363.8723
    9198 2003.8118279 1363.7460
    9199 2003.8145161 1363.5187
    9200 2003.8172043 1363.4123
    9201 2003.8198924 1363.0110
    9202 2003.8225806 1362.2442
    9203 2003.8252688 1361.8726
    9204 2003.8279569 1362.1225
    9205 2003.8306451 1363.0755
    9639 2005.0376344 1363.5927
    9640 2005.0403225 1363.6945
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  • ack kudabux 2012/05/04 21:53:00
    ack
    +3
    But Polar Bear population are the highest since the '50's.
    Looks like you've be duped again.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/20...
  • kudabux ack 2012/05/04 21:54:13
    kudabux
    +1
    see my reply above to Kingpin
  • ack kudabux 2012/05/04 22:07:21
    ack
    +1
    Did you read the link?
  • kudabux ack 2012/05/04 22:10:24
    kudabux
    Yes
  • ack kudabux 2012/05/04 22:11:35
    ack
    +1
    Thank you. Most don't.
  • A Woman... kudabux 2012/05/06 03:13:45
    A Woman's View~JLA
    Polar Bear population is not dwindling but actually has doubled.....another myth of the Global Warming believers.

    Ice caps are actually thickening...not melting.

    The Global warming theory hasn't produced the results they believed it would. We have actually not seen any warming in the past 10-12 years.

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  • kudabux A Woman... 2012/05/06 13:31:47
    kudabux
    Where did you see 'polar bear population is shrinking'? Not on my post. And I seriously doubt your assertion that the ice caps are thickening. I'll go along with the experts on this subject.
  • A Woman... kudabux 2012/05/06 21:51:19
    A Woman's View~JLA
    I didn't say you said the Polar bear population is shrinking...this comment above was suppose to be underneath your picture of the Polar Bear on the chunk of ice, hanging on for dear life. It just got put down at the bottom of the ribbon.

    Here is a story on Ice caps thickening...

    USATODAY.com - Researchers find Antarctic ice is thickening
    WASHINGTON (AP) — New measurements show the ice in West Antarctica is thickening, reversing some earlier estimates that the sheet was melting. Jack ...
    www.usatoday.com/news/science... - Cached

    and another which states ....The data is collected from the US military web site http://imb.crrel.usace.army.mil.

    WUWT Ice Survey Shows Thickening Arctic Ice | Watts Up With That?
    A related study also shows that the permanent ice cap over the Arctic is also ... So while the WUWT ice survey might want to conclude there is thickening ice (which of ...
    wattsupwiththat.com/.../09/wu... - Cached
  • Theresa 2012/05/04 19:05:24
    Yes, Global Warming is a HOAX!!
    Theresa
    +6
    Man Made anything is a Hoax. Man is not able to change the climate! The ONLY thing that affects climate is output from the SUN! That is totally out of Human's control!
  • tom Theresa 2012/05/04 19:12:34
    tom
    +1
    Yea, my iphone was definitely not man-made in China. Its all a conspiracy!

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