Is Free Lunch Program a Wonderful Idea or Another Wasteful Program?
Chris D
2012/07/05 17:00:00
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The free lunch program that is supposed to feed kids in need is really just a free lunch for anyone who shows up. Do you think it's a waste of tax payers' money?
FOXNEWS.COM reports:
FOXNEWS.COM reports:
Every summer across the country, more than 3 million children eat for free at more than 30,000 sites, from schools to recreation centers to migrant worker camps. It's a valuable resource for families who are struggling -- but, critics say, a convenient freebie for those who aren't.
Read More: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/05/taxpaye...
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Nick 2012/07/05 18:28:41Free lunch, please!























or go to a Flat Income Tax
Go ahead, tell me how it hurts only the poor or the children.
Subsidy to oil company .... you're correct, we should all get a Oil Royalty as in Alaska ... ooppss, you wouldn't like that, Palin's State does that
Congress ... screw 'em, and the guy your Dream Prez touts has the method ....
Warren Buffet [sic] is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no lo...
or go to a Flat Income Tax
Go ahead, tell me how it hurts only the poor or the children.
Subsidy to oil company .... you're correct, we should all get a Oil Royalty as in Alaska ... ooppss, you wouldn't like that, Palin's State does that
Congress ... screw 'em, and the guy your Dream Prez touts has the method ....
Warren Buffet [sic] is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.
Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
.......... ahem ..... you were saying ?
Here send Dana this **** Its all about PAYING their FAIR SHARE.
I doubt Dana will read and listen as we all know that Liberals really do not have OPEN MINDS or MINDS in general for that matter.
Here's the link:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air...
One must always keep in mind when discussing topics such as this with someone ' Dyed in the Wool ' against you ... it's not always a dope you're arguing with.
Oft time it's a good person, smart as you or I, who has lived in households led by that very mindset who has simply passed it down to the next generation ... and then school reaffirms that same parental mindset for 12, maybe 16 yrs ... tough to flush all that indoctrination.
My reply to Barry about his thought on ' You didn't do it without Feds or Fed money '
' Sir, you're absolutely correct ! Without the Government building those sidewalks and street-corners, Hookers + Drug Dealers would have nowhere to ply their wares '
........ sent that thought to a few Talk Shows ... interested to see if the thought surfaces ' On Air ' < s >
You're of the opine that if it's about school it's great and if it's labeled ' For the Children ' anyone who takes the thought to task is some sort of mental midget .... pretty close ?
What you overlook is the Big Picture which I've previously mentioned .... you know, the root of it ...
................ Who is going to pay for it all ? ? ?
At least you (and I) can be proud to have provided for our own children's educations, even while laboring to pay for other people's children simultaneously (and permanently).
My wife asked a kid one day "Can't you make a PB&J sandwhich?" My husband makes my kids lunches all the time. Kids response? That is too much work when I can get it for free and mom is too lazy. Yeah.. Social programs breeds laziness. Short term programs are fine.
"but the reality is she worked the midnight shift and she's tired.."
No I am sorry to say that is not the case. Most of the kids parent(s)/guardians are on a state subsidized program or in jail. 90% of them do not work. They are not looking for jobs either because they make more off the state than working and they do not have to do anything. Everything is provided for them. One parent that my wife had to visit was extremely overweight. She had broken 3 previously scheduled parent teacher conferences. The school informed my wife she would have to go to their residence and another teacher would have to go as well. This could only be done on school time.
My wife rang the bell and woman said come in. A woman was sitting on the couch wrapped in a bed sheet. She said she couldn't answer the door because she had no clothes on because was too tired to get off the couch. This is the type of parent these kids have. This is what they have to aspire to.
Currently, I have 6 books by Melanie Rawn (sci-fi fantasy) that I have downloaded on my tablet. I have read one and in the middle of the second. It will be a while before I get to it.
oh man that is rough.. The other day someone tried to access one of my kids college accounts. Good thing we never set it up on line. If I ever meet that person I hope it is in a very dark alley.
Yes they look to be starving. NOT.
1. If you cannot take care of what you produce than you need not produce it (Children.)
2. If you're down and out we'll be more than happy to help you with a Hand Up vs a hand out so that they the parents can get back on track in taking care of their responsibilities.
3. Those who are receiving free breakfasts and lunches 18 and under and who come from families who have money but send their kids over for freebies need to pay a fine of at least $5000.00 and also have to do 200+ hours of community service.
I volunteer an X amount of hours serving food at shelters and raising money for those in need in our community but I get a little irritated when I see these so called...
1. If you cannot take care of what you produce than you need not produce it (Children.)
2. If you're down and out we'll be more than happy to help you with a Hand Up vs a hand out so that they the parents can get back on track in taking care of their responsibilities.
3. Those who are receiving free breakfasts and lunches 18 and under and who come from families who have money but send their kids over for freebies need to pay a fine of at least $5000.00 and also have to do 200+ hours of community service.
I volunteer an X amount of hours serving food at shelters and raising money for those in need in our community but I get a little irritated when I see these so called people coming in with 4 to 6 children and many times another baby on the way with cell phones, their nails done and lots of nice jewelry. The money they spend on unnecessary BS vs spending that money on feeding their children raises a red flag with me.
We need to stop enabling those who can work by making them uncomfortable in their poverty.
Ben Franklin said this:
“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
― Benjamin Franklin
Heck why work at minimum wage when the government will give your and mine tax dollars so they won;t have to work and get the same amount. Plus free healthcare... That's like an extra 10-20 grand per yer bonus.
If you are down and out sure we can help. Limited time only. I applaud some of the people in my field that have been laid off. My age as well. which is scary because a few of them are my daughter's friend's fathers.
They are working at fast food joints and other such places. They are working though. Then again I live in a very conservative place in Ohio.
However, just as you mention the $ 30 dollars only going so far, similarly the Tax Dollar has it's limit ... as does the Tax Base.
Believe me Meme, were it up to me I'd feed the entire world Surf + Turf daily .... I can't afford it and neither can the Country.
Those who DEPEND on others to provide for them all that they want and need can easily find that those who provide every thing can easily take it ALL away just as fast.
You see We the People are generous IF the GOVERNMENT gets out of our way. When we are FORCED to have what we work for legally STOLEN and redistributed then over time it fails.
You cannot expect to TAKE from one group of people and hand it all to another group of people and then expect it to work. Sooner or later the money runs out and then EVERYONE finds themselves EQUALLY POOR and living in SQUALLER.
Americans give to charities but when they have their contributions taken then their is nothing left to give.
Wise up.
"Those who DEPEND on others to provide for them all that they want and need can easily find that those who provide every thing can easily take it ALL away just as fast."
I simply stated my opinion...
That was my point.
I think rather than to do away with a free lunch program...because we know that the children actually see that food and the parents can't abuse it...the food stamp program should be made to be more fraud proof..maybe put the users photo on their card so that they can't sell their food stamps...that would be easy enough. maybe food banks should be for laid off people or people who have exhausted their unemployment and can't find work..or the working poor rather than to also help people on food stamps. The same people get help compounded by help..and...
I think rather than to do away with a free lunch program...because we know that the children actually see that food and the parents can't abuse it...the food stamp program should be made to be more fraud proof..maybe put the users photo on their card so that they can't sell their food stamps...that would be easy enough. maybe food banks should be for laid off people or people who have exhausted their unemployment and can't find work..or the working poor rather than to also help people on food stamps. The same people get help compounded by help..and others who have suffered a temporary set back..get nothing and need it more.
I think there should be work programs for people on welfare..there is a cycle of dependence..I believe that..and the only way to break that is to force a person to work for their benefits...it's good for the parent and it's good for the child to see that you have to get up every morning and earn what you get..
FINALLY!!!!!! You're getting it slowly but surely.
DEPENDENCY never WORKS.
Read about the GREAT SOCIETY.
............ too funny
If you claim to be a Christian too... then even worse. You need a lot of help. I believe we all will reap what we sow and your in for a hell of an awakening when you finally meet up with God.