Is Free Lunch Program a Wonderful Idea or Another Wasteful Program?

You ask: “Do you listen to yourself speak? Fifty cents is more than they deserve? Fifty cents to feed innocent, hungry children is a small price. Everyone is entitled to food, like they are entitled to water and air. They live in the country, same as you. Their parents pay taxes and they will one day pay taxes as well.”

You are wrong on several points.
NO! They do NOT “deserve” anything they do not *EARN* or is provided for them by their family.
Air is free and all around, water is basically the same.
But *FOOD* is something that *SOMEONE* must *WORK* in order for it to be *PRODUCED*.
It is *NOT FREE*, it is the labor of the farmer that you are talking about taking for “free”.
Also, if their parents are on welfare or food stamps, they do NOT pay taxes, and most likely, they get *BACK* a “return” on what they *DIDN'T* pay.

You state: "No, the government is taking your money. They will take your money whether this program as in place or not because you are a citizen of the United States. Then, instead of using it to go to war or crap like that, they are feeding the hungry.”

Not at all. You are simply excusing more confiscation “for a good cause”.
Don't get me wrong, I would never object to the Government taking 25%-50% of your income, to use on the school lunch programs, because you believe it is such a worthy cause.

You state: “CHILDREN. Can I repeat that? These CHILDREN have no control over whether their parents are willfully unemployed on part of the productive poor. To the children, it doesn't make a difference. They can't help who their born to, so why should some go hungry while others are fed? That's the more retarded thing I've ever heard.”

These are also CHILDREN, I'll repeat CHILDREN, that *I* didn't produce.
This does *NOT* entitle them to enslave *ME*, and deprive *MY CHILDREN*, I'll repeat *MY CHILDREN* of what *THEY* are entitled to because they *ARE* my children.
If they are *REALLY* hungry, they they would be *GREATFUL* for soup.

You state: “The day people-- anyone, but especially children-- stop being entitled to food is the day humans no longer need to eat to survive.”

Nope, they are not entitled for the labor of another.

You state: “It doesn't matter if that the government has to pay, it's essential for life.”

The Government give *NOTHING* to anyone, that it didn't first *TAKE* from someone else against their own interest.

You state: “Even "soup" instead of whatever these lunch programs are providing children, would cost your money.”

But it would be much cheaper, and less subject to abuse.

You state: “Their parents may not be paying taxes while they're on welfare, but most people don't stay on welfare forever and will return to paying taxes. They payed taxes before, they will pay taxes in the future.”

Actually you're wrong about that too.
I've known quite a few people who have never been off welfare.
The system itself is designed to trap people in the system, as a means to breed Democrat votes.

You state: “You may not be responsible for those kids, but the your government is.”

No, it isn't. Nor should it *EVER* be.
That is the job of the *PARENTS*.

You state: “Your government has taken that money already because you are American and you have to pay American taxes. Your children are not being deprived in any way!”

Wrong again.
Every added entitlement program, requires the Government to confiscate more and more money.
Why don't *YOU* send in a larger part of your income to pay for “Free Lunches”, if it's so important to you?

You ask: “How is this depriving your children?”

Because what is taken from me, is by extension, taken from them.

You state: “If fifty cents of yours would truly make a difference for them... well, I doubt you live in America. Consider that if you lost your job because of no fault of your own, this program would be there for them. You can complain about fifty cents of yours going into this lunch program all you want, but at the end of the day... it's just fifty cents.”

It's more than 50 cents, and for 50 cents to reach the lunch program, they will confiscate many dollars.
It *STILL* is not their money to take, nor are their welfare my duty to address.
But again, I would be 100% behind 25% or even 50% of *YOUR* income being taken for the program that yo believe in so strongly.

But you don't really believe in the “Free Lunch” enough to donate 25-50% of *YOUR* income, do you?

"But again, I would be 100% behind 25% or even 50% of *YOUR* income being taken for the program that yo believe in so strongly."

You state: “You cannot argue this, because they aren't taking 25% or even 50% of your income.”

What you are missing: I do *NOT* want this program; *YOU* want it, you should expect to *PAY* for it.

You state: “The nonexistence of this program would not significantly change how much you must pay in taxes.”

But *YOU* would then be contributing significantly to a “cause” that you claim to believe in.

You state: “The government is not robbing obscene amounts of money from you and giving these children million-dollar lunches.”

Confiscating even 50 cents, is more than they should take for children that I had no part in producing.
If someone stuck a gun in your face, and took only $10, would you feel that was “okay”, because it was only $10?

You state: “It's a just a few dollar meal. Serving soup instead of the regular meal would not make a significant difference.”

Actually it would make a considerable difference in cost, as well as give incentive to those childrn to better themselves.

You state: “You're not even trying to justify your hatred anymore.”

No hatred at all. I just don't believe in slavery.

You state: “You're just a suborn bigot who has no respect for human life. I get that now. You're not worth arguing with.”

You are simply a basic Libtard/Progressive that hold many beliefs that you feel strongly about and believe are very important . . . as long as someone else can be forced to pay for them.

You state: “I DON'T FEEL THAT I'M ENTITLED TO YOUR MONEY. Have I not made this clear?”

When you believe that you are entitled to something, that is paid for, with my money: That *IS* saying you believe that you are entitled to my money.

You state: “Also, I'm not 10. I'm 14. Don't use it against me like everyone else does.”

Please think on a 14-year-old level, and I will try and not use it against you.

You state: “My parents are divorced. My mother is unemployed; my dad makes low wages, and he doesn't pay child support like he's supposed to.”

I understand that is hard on you, and you have my sympathy.

You state: “The only reason we have what we do is because of our family. Without them, we wouldn't have this house, there would be no utilities, and I wouldn't have this computer, among other things.”

And that is *HOW* it is supposed to be.
I am 100% for helping those who *NEED* help.
I donate time, money and effort to help those who need help.
While I believe in donating my money to help others, I am *AGAINST* my money being confiscated for the claim of “helping others”.

You state: “I feel lucky every day because I have a house, food, etc. However, I understand how severe the situation really is, even though this is very much a normal thing for me. We also depend on food stamps.”

I hope you never learn just how much worse it can be, but please do take away some important life lessons from this, so that you don't end up *STAYING* in such a condition.
Your mother isn't in the position she's in because of “fate”, but through *a series* of poor life choices she has made over the years. Learn from her mistakes, so you don't repeat them in your own life.

You state: “Now, I understand that you think we're taking YOUR money, but since I can't help the decisions of my family, the facts are the facts.”

Your family *IS* taking my money, when my money is *TAKEN* for you.
That's just the facts.
I also understand you are *NOT* the one making the decisions.
Please learn from this, so you don't repeat the same mistakes in your own life.

You state: “You can choose to accept them, or you can choose not to. That's up to you.”

My life would probably been *MUCH* easier, had I taken food stamps and welfare.
But then I'd probably still be on food stamps and welfare today.

Thank care, learn from this experience, and grow so that you don't find yourself in the same type of situation.

I wish you the best.

You state: “It's been a long time since you were a child, hasn't it? A child's mental state does not think about the future, just the present. And if you've never been that kid being pushed around on the playground, you can't talk about how it will "encourage them to have a better life" or "teach them to protect themselves".”

Unlike you, that's why I believe what I say, because I have walked it.
That's why I know being given a *REASON* to make changes in your life, will more likely promote changes than making the situation acceptable.
Your victim mentality, is why you were targeted.

You state: “Have you ever met a ten year old who suffers from depression?”

Yes. How many of them were in a situation like your ideas *PROMOTE*?

You ask: “Can you even imagine the mental state a ten year old would be in? Because being ten and thinking you don't deserve to live is a pretty terrible thing. And as somebody who cried herself to sleep over the fact that everyone alienated her because she didn't wear the same expensive clothing or have a million different snacks at lunch, I can garentee you, the soup would be enough to set off a chain of bullying on the weaker students.”

Doesn't sound like you idea of free lunches has prevented it, does it?

You state: “And while it makes people stronger, it doesn't justify allowing it to happen.”

Actually, you're wrong.
If what you suggest is “So bad” my way *WOULD* indeed “justify allowing it to happen.”

You state: “While I don't think your idea is bad-- I mean, better soup than nothing!-- the fact that they have the program in place and YOU haven't gone broke paying for it is enough to prove that this program isn't worth being so utterly against it as you are.”

The program is ever expanding, taking more and more of *MY* money, that these people, any way you'd like to slice it, are *NOT* entitled to.
*I DO NOT OWE THEM ANYTHING.*

You state: “While cheap soup VS regular, healthy food may make a difference to the government, it won't make a difference to YOU, the taxpayer, because it's perhaps ten cents difference on your end.”

But much more would be saved, when the children have the incentive to not be welfare recipients and be productive members of society.

You state: “And because you seem to think the world revolves around you, only its affect on you matters.”

You are simply too immature and naïve to understand, that you are talking about taking the resources worked for by one party, to be taken away and given to others who have done nothing to justify the origin of the debt.
That's slavery.