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Is FEMALE genitilia mutilation proper

sjalan 2012/07/13 04:04:02
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  • RosaLuxemburg 2012/07/14 19:11:25 (edited)
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    RosaLuxemburg
    +23
    FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is called female circumcision by those doing it, but is in no way analogous to male circumcision. There are two procedures for FGM. First, excision, in which the clitoris and the labia minor are cut away. This is analogous to cutting off the whole penis in the male. Second, infundibulation, in which the labia majora are sewn together to prevent anything entering the vagina. Hard to imagine in the male, but it would be like forcing the penis back into the abdomen and then sewing the skin together to prevent it coming back out. A small opening is left for urination and menstruation, but heavy menstrual flow can lead to blockage, infection and death. On the wedding night, the groom cuts the labia majora apart and holds the sheet the wife bleeds on out the window for the neighbors and family to see she really was a virgin.
    Excision is practiced thoughout the Sahel and Sahara (the Sahel is the grasslands between the Sahara desert to the north and the rainforest to the south) from Somalia and Ethiopia in the East to Senegal, Mauritania and Guinea in the west. CLICK HERE FOR MAPS.

    Percent of women who suffer FGM (click in space to see map)

    Percent by country
    Infundibulation is practiced mainly by Arabic speakers, both in Arabia and Africa. The w...








    FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is called female circumcision by those doing it, but is in no way analogous to male circumcision. There are two procedures for FGM. First, excision, in which the clitoris and the labia minor are cut away. This is analogous to cutting off the whole penis in the male. Second, infundibulation, in which the labia majora are sewn together to prevent anything entering the vagina. Hard to imagine in the male, but it would be like forcing the penis back into the abdomen and then sewing the skin together to prevent it coming back out. A small opening is left for urination and menstruation, but heavy menstrual flow can lead to blockage, infection and death. On the wedding night, the groom cuts the labia majora apart and holds the sheet the wife bleeds on out the window for the neighbors and family to see she really was a virgin.
    Excision is practiced thoughout the Sahel and Sahara (the Sahel is the grasslands between the Sahara desert to the north and the rainforest to the south) from Somalia and Ethiopia in the East to Senegal, Mauritania and Guinea in the west. CLICK HERE FOR MAPS.
    south somalia ethiopia east senegal mauritania guinea west click maps
    Percent of women who suffer FGM (click in space to see map)
    mauritania guinea west percent women suffer fgm click space map
    Percent by country
    Infundibulation is practiced mainly by Arabic speakers, both in Arabia and Africa. The women of the Nile valley (Egypt and Sudan) frequently must endure both.

    Excision was started by Jews of Ethiopia, maybe even before they crossed from Yemen into Africa with the Sheban conquest of Ethiopia and Eritrea. It is still practiced by the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia (now mostly living in Israel). It spread from them to the Coptic Christians of the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia and Djibouti) and the Nile valley (Sudan and Egypt) With the Muslim conquest of most of this area, it was adopted by the Muslims and spread clear across Africa. Today it is mostly practiced by Muslims, many people think it is required by Islam. NOTE: Excision is never performed on babies like male circumcision because they would frequently bleed to death, nor is it performed on adolescent girls big enough to defend themselves. It is done without anesthetic, when the girl is (usually) eight to ten years old, adults hold the little girl down while one person (Usually an old woman) scrapes away the genitalia with a broken piece of glass or a razor blade.

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  • Kaliflower 2014/02/07 14:53:19
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Kaliflower
    children who have undergone FGM often have post traumatic stress for the rest of their lives. Infections from the proceedure can kill them or leave them infirtile. This is not something done in a hospital, it is often a group of adults rushing up on a child, physically holding her down, and cutting off pieces of her body with no anesthesia. This is violence, assault, child abuse. There is no other way to describe it.
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/12/03 16:34:53
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    Not as almost universally performed.

    Any adult who chooses, willingly, to modify their body is none of my business. However, FGM is performed on children almost exclusively, and is a profound violation of human rights.
  • Jaiheena Star 2012/11/21 02:10:57
  • Dee 2012/10/29 07:30:43
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Dee
    this is heartbreaking and disturbing!!! to fathom innocent little girls having to undergo such heinous procedures. call it what you want its wrong!!! My heart goes out to all the innocent who don't have a voice or choice. God save and deliver them.
  • ☆GrayBeard☆ ~PWCM~JLA~ 2012/09/27 07:22:09
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    ☆GrayBeard☆ ~PWCM~JLA~
    Negative. As the father of 5 daughters (and 6 sons), that has got to be the most stupid question I've heard on here.
  • shadow76 2012/09/27 06:12:31
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    shadow76
    It is evil!
  • Tom Dundee 2012/09/26 19:03:27
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Tom Dundee
    +3
    Proper? This is barbaric.
  • sjalan Tom Dundee 2012/09/26 19:21:27
    sjalan
    +1
    You're right!!

    Now lets address simply circumcision
  • Tom Dundee sjalan 2012/09/26 19:24:07
    Tom Dundee
    +1
    There is no comparison or equivalence.
  • sjalan Tom Dundee 2012/09/26 19:29:53
    sjalan
    Isn't there? I'd say have a part of my penis cut off for some supposed religious out modded belief system is absolutely no different than the barbaric mutilation of women for the same religious out modded belief systems.

    The male dominated religious and various cultures around the world that practice female genital mutilation do so to make a woman less likely to seek out sex since it is no longer pleasurable to them. For some men who have had botched circumcisions the same is very true. They cannot perform as adults and as a result have little or no willingness to seek out sex even in a marital relationship.
  • Tom Dundee sjalan 2012/09/26 19:46:43
  • shadow76 sjalan 2012/09/27 06:16:32
    shadow76
    The two are not the same! Why do you want to change the subject?
  • lolo 2012/08/14 15:43:06
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    lolo
    +1
    It's disgusting and it makes me ANGRY!!!!!!
    How could any parent be so cruel!!!
  • Drebi 2012/08/14 13:23:15 (edited)
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Drebi
    +1
    To be clear, I do not believe that ANY modification that doesn't save someone's life or give them a better quality of life should be forced upon them (and once they've reached the age of reason, it shouldn't be even then). Circumcision (male OR female), piercings, tattoos, scarification, most cosmetic surgery, etc. do not fit the criteria of 'life saving/bettering'.

    So, I don't think that any of those should be allowed on infants or (young) children. (Older) children and (early) adolescents can consent to the non-life altering modifications and (late) adolescents and adults can consent to the life altering modifications.

    I don't think any modification should be illegal, I just think there should be (psychological & physical) maturity restriction/requirement.
  • No One 2012/08/14 13:09:19
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    No One
    No and neither is male genital mutilation.
  • martin28 2012/07/17 12:12:20
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    martin28
    +1
    I personally think its a horrible and misogynistic practice because from what I've heard women who have been circumcised feel more pain than pleasure during intercourse. A female circumcision is a lot more harmful than a male circumcision.
  • Pocahontas 2012/07/16 22:23:17
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Pocahontas
    +10
    See the books listed by the
    Female Genital Mutilation Education and Networking Project
    http://www.fgmnetwork.org/boo...

    It appears that the incidence has dropped in some countries like Kenya,
    but in countries where it was very high, like Somalia, Egypt, Sudan and Djibouti,
    it has stayed high. The new election in Egypt may mean the end of progress there.
    http://www.prb.org/Articles/2...

    Here is another map showing where excission and infundibulation are found.
    high election egypt progress httpwww prb orgarticles2 map excission infundibulation
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepa...
  • GOD 2012/07/16 15:24:24
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    GOD
    +7
    RAINBO works in America as well as in Africa. It is one of very few agencies working to stop this practice here in the USA. Please do support its work.
    http://www.nocirc.org/symposi...
    RAINBO,
    FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION IN THE U.S.,
    AND HELP FOR ITS VICTIMS
    Nahid Toubia
    Presented at the Fourth International Symposium on Sexual Mutilations,
    University of Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland, August 9-11, 1996.
    _____________________________...
    There is a growing population of African immigrant women and girls in the United States that come from countries where female genital mutilation is prevalent. However, efforts to address female genital mutilation in this country have focused primarily on legislation to prohibit the practice. Overall, there has been little attempt to offer support services to genitally mutilated women or to provide information on the health risks of female genital mutilation to families of young girls.
    In response, RAINBO has launched the African Women's Health Project. Project staff are speaking with African immigrant women and men, service providers and community organizations in New York City to assess their concerns regarding female genital mutilation and their needs for information and services. Based on their input, RAINBO will design training materials ...





    RAINBO works in America as well as in Africa. It is one of very few agencies working to stop this practice here in the USA. Please do support its work.
    http://www.nocirc.org/symposi...
    RAINBO,
    FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION IN THE U.S.,
    AND HELP FOR ITS VICTIMS
    Nahid Toubia
    Presented at the Fourth International Symposium on Sexual Mutilations,
    University of Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland, August 9-11, 1996.
    _____________________________...
    There is a growing population of African immigrant women and girls in the United States that come from countries where female genital mutilation is prevalent. However, efforts to address female genital mutilation in this country have focused primarily on legislation to prohibit the practice. Overall, there has been little attempt to offer support services to genitally mutilated women or to provide information on the health risks of female genital mutilation to families of young girls.
    In response, RAINBO has launched the African Women's Health Project. Project staff are speaking with African immigrant women and men, service providers and community organizations in New York City to assess their concerns regarding female genital mutilation and their needs for information and services. Based on their input, RAINBO will design training materials for service providers and develop appropriate education and intervention strategies. The aim is to foster thoughtful, effective and community-based approaches to addressing female genital mutilation in the United States.
    RAINBO, a not-for-profit organization that focuses on issues of women's health and human rights, has worked extensively on female genital mutilation for the past two years. The organization assists international agencies including UNICEF, UNFPA, and the World Health Organization in developing frameworks to guide their programs and policies on female genital mutilation; provides technical support to African organizations on research, training and intervention activities; organizes meetings and workshops to advance policy, technical issues and ethical approaches to addressing female genital mutilation; and facilitates information dissemination through its resource center on female genital mutilation and related topics.
    _____________________________...
    Nahid Toubia, M.D., founder and Executive Director of RAINBO, has worked to advance awareness and prevention of the practice of female genital mutilation for several years, conducting research, publishing articles and books, lecturing and providing training on the subject. Dr. Toubia is a fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons in England and the first woman surgeon in Sudan, with more than 15 years experience in public hospitals in her country. She has a Masters Degree in Health Planning and Financing from the University of London and worked for four years as an associate for women's health at the Population Council in New York. She is currently an assistant professor of clinical health at Columbia University School of Public Health.
    RAINBO: http://www.rainbo.org/

    google RAINBO FGM to see how important this organization is.
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  • holyheretic 2012/07/16 13:23:38
  • Marianne 2012/07/16 10:53:01
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Marianne
    +2
    It is a crime and barbarian cruelty to mutilate young girls or boys according to some ancestral rites. Such people practising excision are sadists and should be severely punished.
  • Harriet Tubman 2012/07/15 22:15:26
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Harriet Tubman
    +7
    According to WHO, some three million girls are mutilated every year. http://www.who.int/reproducti... For statistics on the prevalence of FGM in various countries, see Unicef http://www.unicef.org/publica... Unfortunately, there is no data for the two countries with the highest incidence, Somalia and Djibouti. Of special interest to me was the fact that FGM was more prevalent among Christians than Muslims in Ethiopia, Kenya and Nigeria. In Sudan, the big variable influencing the decision to get their daughters mutilated was education. More educated women were much less likely to get their daughters mutilated. No surprise there.
    THREE MILLION GIRLS BUTCHERED EVERY YEAR.
    SUPPORT RAINBO! NOW! SUPPORT RAINBO!!!
    Wikipedia article on Rainbo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    Rainbo website: http://www.rainbo.org/
    READ THEM!
    8000 litle girls cut every day. Help stop it.
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2012/07/15 20:10:14
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    It's horrible, just like male genital mutilation.
  • Q 2012/07/15 13:50:21
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Q
    +7
    Its both cruel and barbaric especially when its done by force on pre-teen girls, should they want to have it done after reaching adulthood then its their choice...but from what I understand they don't have the option of saying no.
  • Harriet... Q 2012/07/15 16:22:11
    Harriet Tubman
    +9
    THANK YOU! PLEASE, EVERYONE, DO JOIN OUR SODAHEAD GROUP:
    Abolish FGM (Female Genital Mutilation)
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
  • Bilal 2012/07/15 04:53:53
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Bilal
    +12
    This is not a Muslim practice. FGM has been outlawed for all Sunni Muslims (the vast majority of those practicing this barbaric custom) since 2006.
    http://www.iheu.org/node/2503
    It is true that most of those doing this cruel thing are Muslim, but it is done by Christians, Jews and followers of traditional African religions as well.
    We Muslims need to help stop this inhumane practice among our people.
  • Kaliflower Bilal 2014/02/07 14:55:55
    Kaliflower
    +3
    Thank you for being a strong Muslim man and standing up for your sisters. The more men who say it's wrong and encourage their sons to marry intact women, the sooner this horrific practice will end.
  • Andrew 2012/07/15 02:40:11
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    Andrew
    +4
    No, it is wrong, twisted, cruel, and depraved. Sick basterds, let's cut off their genetilia.
  • Harriet... Andrew 2012/07/15 16:31:24
    Harriet Tubman
    +9
    The horrible truth is that in most countries FGM is demanded by mothers and grandmothers and performed by old women ("midwives"). I would love to pin this on men, but it really isn't so. The men would would frequently prefer a wife who enjoys and wants sex and responds to them. Only the men anxious to hold women down as mere property uphold the practice. The women seem to behave like fraternity boys at hazing, if I had to suffer this, so should the new guys. I found the video with this question very encouraging. If girls in school can be reached and taught to speak up for themselves, that is the best chance of change.
  • RosaLuxemburg 2012/07/14 19:11:25 (edited)
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    RosaLuxemburg
    +23
    FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is called female circumcision by those doing it, but is in no way analogous to male circumcision. There are two procedures for FGM. First, excision, in which the clitoris and the labia minor are cut away. This is analogous to cutting off the whole penis in the male. Second, infundibulation, in which the labia majora are sewn together to prevent anything entering the vagina. Hard to imagine in the male, but it would be like forcing the penis back into the abdomen and then sewing the skin together to prevent it coming back out. A small opening is left for urination and menstruation, but heavy menstrual flow can lead to blockage, infection and death. On the wedding night, the groom cuts the labia majora apart and holds the sheet the wife bleeds on out the window for the neighbors and family to see she really was a virgin.
    Excision is practiced thoughout the Sahel and Sahara (the Sahel is the grasslands between the Sahara desert to the north and the rainforest to the south) from Somalia and Ethiopia in the East to Senegal, Mauritania and Guinea in the west. CLICK HERE FOR MAPS.

    Percent of women who suffer FGM (click in space to see map)

    Percent by country
    Infundibulation is practiced mainly by Arabic speakers, both in Arabia and Africa. The w...








    FGM (Female Genital Mutilation) is called female circumcision by those doing it, but is in no way analogous to male circumcision. There are two procedures for FGM. First, excision, in which the clitoris and the labia minor are cut away. This is analogous to cutting off the whole penis in the male. Second, infundibulation, in which the labia majora are sewn together to prevent anything entering the vagina. Hard to imagine in the male, but it would be like forcing the penis back into the abdomen and then sewing the skin together to prevent it coming back out. A small opening is left for urination and menstruation, but heavy menstrual flow can lead to blockage, infection and death. On the wedding night, the groom cuts the labia majora apart and holds the sheet the wife bleeds on out the window for the neighbors and family to see she really was a virgin.
    Excision is practiced thoughout the Sahel and Sahara (the Sahel is the grasslands between the Sahara desert to the north and the rainforest to the south) from Somalia and Ethiopia in the East to Senegal, Mauritania and Guinea in the west. CLICK HERE FOR MAPS.
    south somalia ethiopia east senegal mauritania guinea west click maps
    Percent of women who suffer FGM (click in space to see map)
    mauritania guinea west percent women suffer fgm click space map
    Percent by country
    Infundibulation is practiced mainly by Arabic speakers, both in Arabia and Africa. The women of the Nile valley (Egypt and Sudan) frequently must endure both.

    Excision was started by Jews of Ethiopia, maybe even before they crossed from Yemen into Africa with the Sheban conquest of Ethiopia and Eritrea. It is still practiced by the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia (now mostly living in Israel). It spread from them to the Coptic Christians of the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia and Djibouti) and the Nile valley (Sudan and Egypt) With the Muslim conquest of most of this area, it was adopted by the Muslims and spread clear across Africa. Today it is mostly practiced by Muslims, many people think it is required by Islam. NOTE: Excision is never performed on babies like male circumcision because they would frequently bleed to death, nor is it performed on adolescent girls big enough to defend themselves. It is done without anesthetic, when the girl is (usually) eight to ten years old, adults hold the little girl down while one person (Usually an old woman) scrapes away the genitalia with a broken piece of glass or a razor blade.

    VOTE ON THIS EARLIER QUESTION:
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  • holyher... RosaLux... 2012/07/15 12:53:22
  • Harriet... holyher... 2012/07/15 17:47:09
    Harriet Tubman
    +6
    Thank you, Effendi Holy,
    It has been 52 years since I became committed to the struggle against FGM at a meeting of women from Africa and the African diaspora in London, England. Do you know how much progress we have made? Between indigenization of education following independence from European colonialism and Islamization of Muslim societies, the problem is worse now than then. As a black Muslim woman, I am deeply embarrassed by this. I am also angry as الجحيم (Hеll). It is spreading. It is now common in most major cities of western Europe and North America. Identifying it as a Muslim practice does not help, especially in America, where the big Ethiopian and Egyptian Coptic Christian communities like Washington, D.C., do it as much as Muslims.
    I wish people would think the next time they are oohing and awing over some Somali or Ethiopian beauty, remember she has no clitoris and is not interested in sex.

    http://forums.soompi.com/disc...
    Millions of little girls held down and butchered every year from Somalia to Senegal (east-west) and from Egypt to Tanzania (north-south). I can not but cry at the inhumanity and savagery of people doing this to their own daughters.

    FGM in Uganda

    http://blog.marie-elise.com.a...
    Thank you, Effendi Holy,
    It has been 52 years since I became committed to the struggle against FGM at a meeting of women from Africa and the African diaspora in London, England. Do you know how much progress we have made? Between indigenization of education following independence from European colonialism and Islamization of Muslim societies, the problem is worse now than then. As a black Muslim woman, I am deeply embarrassed by this. I am also angry as الجحيم (Hеll). It is spreading. It is now common in most major cities of western Europe and North America. Identifying it as a Muslim practice does not help, especially in America, where the big Ethiopian and Egyptian Coptic Christian communities like Washington, D.C., do it as much as Muslims.
    I wish people would think the next time they are oohing and awing over some Somali or Ethiopian beauty, remember she has no clitoris and is not interested in sex.
    muslims people oohing awing somali ethiopian beauty remember clitoris sex
    http://forums.soompi.com/disc...
    Millions of little girls held down and butchered every year from Somalia to Senegal (east-west) and from Egypt to Tanzania (north-south). I can not but cry at the inhumanity and savagery of people doing this to their own daughters.
    somalia senegal east-west egypt tanzania north-south inhumanity savagery people daughters
    FGM in Uganda
    east-west egypt tanzania north-south inhumanity savagery people daughters fgm uganda
    http://blog.marie-elise.com.a...
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  • holyher... Harriet... 2012/07/16 13:18:34
  • Harriet... RosaLux... 2012/07/15 16:34:42
    Harriet Tubman
    +6
    THANK YOU! PLEASE, EVERYONE, DO JOIN OUR SODAHEAD GROUP:
    Abolish FGM (Female Genital Mutilation)
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
  • Jaroslav Dantes 2012/07/14 17:53:14
    Undecided
    Jaroslav Dantes
    If yes, women go forward. True, chlorine and will triumph. nature chlorine
  • thecutesttentacle 2012/07/14 09:02:55 (edited)
    Yes, I think it is OK!
    thecutesttentacle
  • RosaLux... thecute... 2012/07/14 19:16:58
    RosaLuxemburg
    +7
    What are you talking about. This is brutally done to little girls to keep them from ever wanting or enjoying sex.
  • 3359557 2012/07/14 01:24:43
    NO! I do not think it is OK!
    3359557
    +3
    This is horrible. No one should be subject to this kind of suffering. While each person
    has their own religion, I still think this should be a crime. We are made in GODS image
    and NO ONE should change that.
  • Constitution Believer 2012/07/14 01:16:38
  • BoomLover Constit... 2012/07/15 14:56:05
    BoomLover
    +3
    Read the "Top Opinion"
  • Constit... BoomLover 2012/07/15 19:29:22

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