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Is calling a person Illegal as in illegal immigrant a racial slur or hate crime?

Blackjack 2012/04/28 14:37:55
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I'm surprised liberals don't have an issue with calling people aliens too. Alien sounds a bit extraterrestrial doesn't it? Calling someone an illegal alien sounds like you're saying they're a monster from outer space.
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  • johnc Ahrtal 2012/04/29 04:29:05
    johnc
    I don't know who is running his campaign, But I think it is really going wrong. and to me watching him now he looks like an agry man, more like a college radical at spraul hall. sure it attacts some, but turns off a lot of people, He is getting over exposed, I know the MSM wants to get his picture out there and his words, but now I believe his words are hurting him. I live in the land of libs, california, I heard today, not what I heard 4 years ago.
    I believe Obama will be gone come Jan 20, next year.at his own hand.
  • Al C. Ahrtal 2012/04/29 14:45:22 (edited)
    Al C.
    He didn't deserve a first term let alone a second one because he's ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Kat 2012/04/28 14:57:06
    no, explain
    Kat
    +3
    It is being honest!
  • Reggie☮ 2012/04/28 14:54:49
    no, explain
    Reggie☮
    +5
    It's true, it's not a slur. Should we just call them law breakers :)
  • DM Twin 2012/04/28 14:53:33
  • Louisa - Enemy of the State 2012/04/28 14:52:32
    no, explain
    Louisa - Enemy of the State
    +5
    You ARE what you are! Will one day it become dehumanizing to call a man a male or a woman a female? Or to use the word 'Left' to describe Liberals because 'left' is a synonym for sinister? Which come to think of, they certainly ARE!
  • Birthpangs 2012/04/28 14:50:27
  • jean Birthpangs 2012/04/28 15:04:13
    jean
    +5
    Don't believe what you see - believe what you are told.
  • johnc jean 2012/04/28 15:36:06
    johnc
    +6
    the Obama doctrine,
  • Birthpangs jean 2012/04/28 16:21:20
  • Pete 2012/04/28 14:50:27
    other, I think this
    Pete
    +2
    It's neither one or the other. It is simply a Federal Crime against all foreigner intruders and anyone who is an illegal immigrants will be apprehended and prosecuted for such crimes. That's all it mean...... PBWY
  • Jiorgia 2012/04/28 14:49:24
    no, explain
    Jiorgia
    although i dont like the term 'illegal alien'.
    you wouldn't call someone on a visa a 'legal alien' would you?
  • Blackjack Jiorgia 2012/04/28 15:05:36 (edited)
    Blackjack
    Definition of alien b : relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign
    Other usages includes alien land or alien language. A person belonging to a group can feel alienated.
  • Jiorgia Blackjack 2012/04/28 15:07:23
    Jiorgia
    yes i understand its meaning, that doesn't mean i have to like it...

    it has a history of derogatory use.
  • Blackjack Jiorgia 2012/04/28 15:14:37
    Blackjack
    +2
    You could make an argument that calling someone a bank robber is derogatory.
  • johnc Blackjack 2012/04/28 15:37:59
    johnc
    +3
    and child molesters. what new name do they have in store for them?
  • Jiorgia johnc 2012/04/29 07:54:31
  • johnc Jiorgia 2012/04/29 15:21:36
    johnc
    I don't go to sites from liberals , too many contain viruses.
    progressive, liberal, socialist, democrat are interchangeable.
  • Jiorgia Blackjack 2012/04/29 07:54:09
    Jiorgia
    like i said, i understand the reasoning behind it i just don't like it, i understand why people use it, i don't, i call them illegal immigrants (or asylum seekers when necessary).

    its like the term 'boat people' in australia, its reasoning is fair enough (they came here on a boat) and its true but the phrase has been used badly making it offensive rather then descriptive.

    http://www.bordercrossinglaw....
  • Blackjack Jiorgia 2012/04/29 14:05:49 (edited)
    Blackjack
    We don't worry about offending criminals in the US. We have a legal immigration process even for refugees or people who seek asylum. My advice to those who are offended by the word illegal is don't get involved in crime.
  • DougE Jiorgia 2012/04/28 18:51:16
    DougE
    the fact that you don't like it means you've been abducted by politicism. It's the progressive narrative that it's racist or demeaning, there's absolutely nothing offensive about it.
  • Jiorgia DougE 2012/04/29 07:54:42
  • DougE Jiorgia 2012/04/30 14:47:37
    DougE
    +1
    I'm sorry, but an op-ed piece by a person is not an argument for or against anything, it's an opinion. I can appreciate that you have a similar opinion to this person, but there have to be borders which have to be controlled in order to ensure welfare and safety of those residents within those borders or else you'd have no order to society. We've long since evolved past wondering herds of nomads.
  • Jiorgia DougE 2012/04/30 14:52:37
    Jiorgia
    this has nothing to do with border patrol, this is about the derogatory nature in which we deal with them.
  • Demonic... Jiorgia 2012/04/28 16:40:17
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    The Feds do, when you get your Green Card you have an Alien Registration Number.
  • Blackjack Demonic... 2012/04/28 18:13:48 (edited)
    Blackjack
    Alien just means something is very different or from elsewhere. A traveler can find the environment very alien or unfamiliar. The substance was alien to this part of the world. Relating Alien to a creature from outer space is a contemporary usage. Besides how do you know if we encounter someone from another world that they'd like be what we've imagined in movies and novels.
  • Demonic... Blackjack 2012/04/28 18:34:43
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +1
    But responding to her remark they are called Legal Alien because they are given an Alien Registration Number.
  • Blackjack Demonic... 2012/04/28 18:42:52
    Blackjack
    +1
    Thank you, didn't know that.
  • DougE Demonic... 2012/04/28 18:52:09
    DougE
    +1
    and you can be an alien with residency status.
  • Demonic... DougE 2012/04/28 19:03:27
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    That's why you're given an Alien registration number on your green card.
  • DougE Demonic... 2012/04/30 14:48:14
  • Jiorgia Demonic... 2012/04/29 07:54:50
  • Demonic... Jiorgia 2012/04/29 12:47:28 (edited)
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +1
    They're Foreign Invaders and The guy that wrote that can foreign invaders guy wrote
  • DougE Jiorgia 2012/04/28 18:50:02
    DougE
    +1
    actually yes, they are called aliens period.
  • kmay 2012/04/28 14:46:40
    no, explain
    kmay
    +11
    Calling them what they are is not racist or hate. It's fact.

    calling racist hate
  • Reichstolz 2012/04/28 14:43:55
    no, explain
    Reichstolz
    +7
    It is an accurate assessment of their citizenship condition. They are not immigrants(that implies gong through a process), they are not aliens(we know where they are coming from), they are illegals, it is the most accurate word to use.
  • Zuggi 2012/04/28 14:41:09
    no, explain
    Zuggi
    +2
    Silliness.
  • Dogzebra 2012/04/28 14:40:59
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/04/28 14:40:49
    no, explain
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    Ridiculous - and they do object to calling them aliens -
  • Blackjack Jackie ... 2012/04/28 14:47:40 (edited)
    Blackjack
    +2
    Figures

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