Is Anti-Suicide Spray Ethical?

It also sounds highly addictive. But seriously, I never support suicide, at least let someone else do it for you. Maybe dive in front of a bullet to save a child or something. You can do that right?

Biggest bunch of crap I've heard in a while ,

Soldiers who are suicide prone need to be taken out of combat rotation and given therapy, and if necessary given medical discharges and shunted into the VA psychiatric care program.

No logical reason we should be spending 10 years in combat anyway against foes that wouldn't make a pimple on the WW2 nazi's butts.

No argument there.

Just bring them the f*ck home to their families and out of harm's way! The military is filling these young men with insane numbers of pills already because constantly being threatened with death and killing people because someone told them to is damaging to the psyche. Rather than help them, they drug them.

This would be considered medication. One medicine doesn't work for all. These should be treated by case by case basis. Also there should be more interest into preventing these thoughts.

Yes, as long as the using of the nasal spray is voluntary and the reasons for it are explained.

Its just the begging that is how ther is more tome and just a matter.of time till they give to u.s citizes

Ethical but unnecessary. What is needed is for them to come home and be with their love ones. We have some 750 military installations worldwide and we can close 675 and not lose anything but our thirst for blood.

It may save lives. Go for it

Next it will be a nasal spray to suppress all feeling. Would make the perfect soldier. A pure emotionless killing machine.

I agree with what this person said: http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

yay lets drug up soldiers and use them to fight for our ///freedom/// money

IT'S LIKE GIVING THEM SOME WEED... THE "LEGAL" WAY..

And maybe we could focus on bringing them back home. But that's cool, government, just put a bunch of lives at risk. Jeez.

How is it any different from any other kind of medication that would be otherwise used to treat anxiety, depression, stress, and yes, even suicidal thoughts in soldiers or anyone else for that matter? I don't think anything that is intended to combat symptoms of mental illness or trauma should be used by themselves, however. I think anyone using this treatment should undergo counseling before, during, and after the treatment period. The life of a soldier cannot be an easy one for your mind to handle, so it's nice that they seem to be actually thinking of the psychological health of the men and women that put their lives on the line for us.

Do you really believe that's what they are thinking of? The well being of combat vets? Think again.

Suicide is highly preventable. If such a product, in conjunction with the appropriate counseling, can help doctors discover why the soldier is feeling such a way in the first place, and whether or not the stress of that lifestyle is too much for them, then how is it a bad thing? Regardless of whether or not the government sees it as assuring the well being of the military or making sure their soldiers stay on task, the end result would be the same. They are still thinking of the psychological health of combat vets and how to keep them stable in very stressful situations. If such a product can reduce the number of suicides in these situations, then that's a good thing. I'm sure that the families of these men and women would much rather know that their family member didn't kill themselves while they were out there.

I have been through it. The only cure is to never have to go through that. There is no forgetting it. You live with it every day. What this is proposing is mind control. If this works they will work towards and eventually creating a conciousless, fearless killing machine. Greed and the need for power will see to that.
The true cure is not to place them in combat situations in the first place.

Unfortunately, we do not live in that kind of world. While there is no cure for mental illness and its effects, there are treatment options, I think this is just allowing for one that can act faster for particular symptoms. It's offering a way to cope with the horrors of war immediately. I don't think it's mind control any more than any other treatment method. It's like a concentrated form of eating chocolate, but it doesn't melt in your pocket while you're out in the sun. :)

You don't cope with the horrors of combat, you live with them. My concern is that if they develope something like this, how far behind is a nasal spray to control other things? Emotion, fear, etc.

The brain develops coping mechanisms when it undergoes trauma. Some people are just fine, others develop problems when the strain of the trauma is simply too much for their mind. I really think that it's just another step in the progression of medicine. I think that if they can really develop something like this, people who have mental health issues wouldn't have such a difficult time in general trying to find something that works for them. They won't have such a risk of relapse should they miss a pill, if they can use something that can work pretty immediately. Even if it's just an interim kind of medicine, I think it has the potential to benefit the general public greatly.

I understand your meaning. I just think that it can also be used by unscrupulous individuals for their own agenda.

Certainly, but then again anything else could suffer from the same agenda. I don't want to begrudge progress simply because some people might abuse it. If it gets out of hand, that's one thing, but there's no telling that right now.

hey if it works for them, why can't it work for everyone, but doubt this spray can really do what it says, but if it can, lets mass produce it

thyrotropin-releasing hormone (TRH)," which is a drug that causes a "euphoric, calming, antidepressant effect.". Ummm, there is already a cheap, harmless, freely/readily available, natural herb, that causes basically those same effects. It's called THC (marijuana)

If by "harmless" you mean that it deteriorates the cells in the hippocampus which is the memory center in the brain, also deteriorates the corpus collosum which connects the two sides of the brain, and increases the chance of getting schizophrenia, then yes, your information is correct. That is the meaning of harmless right?

@ben: Winning!

Harmless in comparison to many of the prescription medications that are LEGALLY on the market. Marijuana isn't killing anybody & it's certainly not as harmful as alcohol/tobacco, which are both legal. Everyday on TV I see advertisements for class action lawsuits against extremely harmful & or deadly prescription medications.

The reason you know about deadly medications is because the media reports when it gets off the shelf and when there are massive numbers of lawsuits. The dangerous drugs are either destroyed or saved for extreme problems that justify the risks. Just because the plant itself doesn't kill does not mean that the use of it does not. When smoked it causes nearly identical damage to the lungs and throat to the damage caused by tobacco. Also it is a carcinogen, and causes impairs decision making. Couple that with memory loss, depression, and schizophrenia and you have a death coctail. Cheers.

"cocktail"? As in ALCOHOL? (which is perfectly LEGAL)

Oh jee, you really found the flaw in my argument. Ooh! How did I not see this overly important error! For those who couldn't tell, that is sarcasm.

Just something else to over spend our "hard earned and easily taken away" tax money on... The working taxpayers are always getting scammed out of our money... No matter who's in control of Washington...

The U.S. Army needs to treat our soldiers better when they come home from overseas... Don't just dump them off on the doorstep without desensitizing them from the mental shock of being at war...

use the money to figure out why they have these thoughts and way to prevent them, not just to put a "band-aid" over it to cover the illness

I agree. Funnily enough, I said much the same thing.

I am iffy on the topic of suicide because of several things but if this nasal spray ends up working I think it should be handled like any other antidepressant even in the millitary, as well as it being a personal desicion. But I would rather they just use therapy.