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Is another Civil War possible?

mustangluver 2012/07/30 17:04:43
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When was the FIRST "Civil" War? What happened in 1861-65 was NOT a civil
war. The Confederate States were NOT attempting to overthrow the United
States; they merely WANTED TO LEAVE. 250,000 Southerners died defending
their states and about 350,000 Yankee invaders. NOW look around you at
what Mr. Lincoln wrought. He violated freedom of the press, religion and
Habeas Corpus. NOW LOOK AROUND YOU. Do you like what he gave you?
Do you think you're free?
It is the very notion that with hard work and

perseverance, anybody can get ahead economically here in the USA . Do you
think that can ever happen with tax rates between 60% and 80%? Think again.
With the government taking that percentage of your money, your life will be

exactly like life in Europe ... You will never be able to buy a home. You
will never buy a car. You will never send your children to college. Let's
not shuffle the battle cry of the socialists under the rug either. It's

always the same cry. Equalize income. Spread the wealth to the poor (whoever
they are). Level the economic playing field. Accomplish that and everything
will be rosy. You become an economic slave!!!
they are trying to get rid of most of our freedoms, redefining
words, brainwashing our kids, taking over everything , even something as
private as our healthcare, and using our Constitution as a door mat..

United Kingdom



Income Tax:
50%
VAT: 17.5% TOTAL: 67.5%

France

Income Tax: 40%
VAT: 19.6% TOTAL: 59.6%



Greece
Income Tax: 40%
VAT:
25% TOTAL: 65%

Spain
Income Tax: 45%

VAT: 16% TOTAL: 61%

Portugal

Income Tax: 42%

VAT: 20% TOTAL: 62%



Sweden
Income Tax: 55%
VAT:
25% TOTAL: 80%

Norway
Income Tax:
54.3%
VAT: 25% TOTAL: 79.3%

Netherlands


Income Tax: 52%
VAT: 19% TOTAL:
71%

Denmark
Income Tax: 58%

VAT: 25% TOTAL: 83%

Finland
Income Tax: 53%



VAT:
22% TOTAL: 75%



If you've started to wonder what the real costs of
socialism are going to be - once the full program in these United States hits
your wallet, take a look at the table. As you digest these mind-boggling

figures, keep in mind that in spite of these astronomical tax rates, these
countries are still not financing their social welfare programs exclusively
from tax revenues! They are deeply mired in public debt of gargantuan

proportions. Greece has reached the point where its debt is so huge it is in
imminent danger of defaulting. That is the reason the European economic
community has intervened to bail them out. If you're following the financial

news, you know Spain and Portugal are right behind Greece..
The United States is
now heading right down the same path. The VAT tax in the table is the national sales tax
that Europeans pay. Stay tuned because that is exactly what you can expect to

see the administration proposing after the fall elections. The initial
percentage in the United States isn't going to be anywhere near the outrageous
numbers you now see in Europe . Guess what. the current outrageous numbers in

Europe didn't start out as outrageous either. They started out as minuscule -
right around the 1% or 2% where they will start out in the United States .
Magically, however, they ran up over the years to where they are now. Expect

the same thing here.
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  • Schläue~© 2012/07/30 17:21:04
    YES!
    Schläue~©
    +13
    History has painted Lincoln as some kind of hero when nothing could be further from the truth.
    He made the choice on his own and did everything possible to sabotage efforts in Congress to avert going to war.

    He knew there would be a heavy price to pay afterward and was making plans to colonize all newly freed people's to Central America and back to Africa.

    He trampled on the Constitution and was actually the first progressive trying to undo what our founders had written.

    No wonder he was put on Mt. Rushmore out of Washington and Jefferson's reach so they couldn't b!tch-slap him.

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  • burningsnowman 2013/01/03 21:01:49 (edited)
    YES!
    burningsnowman
    +1
    Forget the phony MSM red vs blue narrative. The US has worsening poverty and ethnic/cultural tensions. Not hard to picture that spiraling out of control someday.
  • bob h. 2013/01/02 22:41:09
    NO!
    bob h.
    +1
    This time, they can go. Please. The US can't stand the drain on the economy any longer.
  • Mike 2013/01/02 20:09:35
    YES!
    Mike
    +1
    and I'll head up a WI Regiment lol
  • HistoryBuff782 2013/01/02 19:48:04
    YES!
    HistoryBuff782
    +1
    Perhaps. If our country keeps on growing more and more divided..

    I would say it is unlikely though.
  • Kookieless The Sexy Nihilis... 2012/12/31 17:44:59
  • Mike Kookiel... 2013/01/02 20:10:16
    Mike
    +1
    Very !! lol
  • Cierra 2012/10/14 14:11:37
  • Cat 2012/10/14 08:28:56
    YES!
    Cat
    +3
    Possible but improbable at this juncture.
  • flrdsgns 2012/10/14 04:24:32
    NO!
    flrdsgns
    +1
    I doubt it
  • l 2012/10/13 22:01:58
    YES!
    l
    +3
    Anything is possible!
  • JAKE~PWCM~JLA 2012/10/13 21:16:17
    Undecided
    JAKE~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Go ahead, conservatives have all the guns and the military will not follow Obama's lead in such an event.
  • Red Branch 2012/10/13 20:21:35
    YES!
    Red Branch
    +4
    While possible, I don't see it happening.
  • Arizona1950 2012/10/13 18:45:35
    NO!
    Arizona1950
    +5
    but I do see a possible religious or racial one coming.
  • wtw 2012/10/13 17:32:45
    YES!
    wtw
    +4
    It is almost desirable. We need to split the country into libs and conservatives. The libs with their ant-gun, pro abortion, pay for illegals total government control, total taxes on the rich, no drilling, less free speech and all the welfare people should go to one side. Those that are pro business, anti-welfare state, social responsibility, pro gun, free speech should go to the other. WHO WILL SURVIVE? This is the best argument against Obama I have ever seen!
  • BlackJack 2012/10/13 17:27:05
    YES!
    BlackJack
    +4
    It's seems to be the progressives' dream.
  • MarinerFH 2012/10/13 16:22:07
  • Mike MarinerFH 2013/01/02 20:11:24
    Mike
    the latter in particular.
  • Golden Panther 2012/10/13 16:07:07
    YES!
    Golden Panther
    +5
    Absolutely, if we continue our way down the yellow brick road towards communism, Islam, and racism. If the mendacious Obama gets another term, the stage will be set for him and his cretin Jack-boot thugs to really press to achieve the nefarious objectives listed above. However, where they will run into a "bump in the road" is when they attempt to confiscate our guns and ammo. There just are too many real Americans who will stand up and fight for their rights...do not tread on them as these folks will rebel.
  • mustang... Golden ... 2012/10/13 16:10:14
    mustangluver
    +3
    BINGO! How everyone can't seem to grasp this is so frustrating to say the least!
  • Tasine 2012/10/13 15:40:50
    YES!
    Tasine
    +6
    The first Civil War was started because the federal government was determined to control a large segment of a "free" population and the second Civil War will be started because the federal government is determined to control a large segment of the "free" population.
  • Tasine Tasine 2012/10/13 15:43:13
    Tasine
    +5
    PS
    This is one of the best, most definitive articles I've read in a long time. Even the brain dead amongst us can surely understand this.
  • mustang... Tasine 2012/10/13 16:11:57
    mustangluver
    +4
    Thanx..but unfortunately a mountain can't be moved unless you blow it up..
  • SteveMarine- JLA 2012/10/13 15:34:56
    Undecided
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +4
    I believe its possible... But "we" the american people stand no chance against the government...tanks....machine guns.....troops....attack helicopters... Yeah... Trust me I know..i know the weapons our Marines have... We don't stand a chance.
  • Tasine SteveMa... 2012/10/13 15:50:42
    Tasine
    +4
    Probably, but in my household, it's "better dead than red". Remember the '60's and '70's? (Actually, Steve, you can't remember it, but many of us do). There was NO WAY COMMUNISM WOULD TAKE US DOWN! Who in the world wants to live in a gulag?! But ............ lots of crap has slid down the pike since then, lots of political correctness, lots of massive lies, lots of dumbing down, lots of Americans have turned to jello, too many Americans today will accept ANYTHING rather than work for something better. We stand a chance of being beaten down now. Still some of us would truly rather be dead than in a gulag.
  • mustang... Tasine 2012/10/13 16:05:23
    mustangluver
    +5
    The libs, such as orgs like the ACLU and NOW and the NAACP have been chiseling away at the foundation of this nation since the 60s..
  • SteveMa... Tasine 2012/10/13 16:31:56
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +4
    Alot would stand against it... I have children so my first priority would be to keep them alive and safe..but I would defend myself and my family against any enemy.
  • mustang... SteveMa... 2012/10/13 16:02:29
    mustangluver
    +4
    You're right! They did a lot of damage with Muskets so it would be so easy to wipe us off the map today.
  • justnotsaying (: 2012/10/13 15:31:33
    YES!
    justnotsaying (:
    +4
    Find a safe place to put the kids and bring it on.
  • mustang... justnot... 2012/10/13 16:07:36
    mustangluver
    +4
    Unfortunately only the rich and famous, including politicians will have a safe place for their kids. Have you ever seen the underground city for the Pres and VP?
  • justnot... mustang... 2012/10/14 00:01:21
    justnotsaying (:
    +3
    I Googled, but found no photo(since it's top secret). It will be a sad day if that ever came to be.
  • mustang... justnot... 2012/10/14 08:14:15
    mustangluver
    +2
    I can't remember where i saw it but there was some show that showed half of it, like the kitchen, rec room, bathrooms and bedrooms. It's very big. They can live as long as 20 yrs in it. All the movie stars have a bomb shelter and probably all rich ppl.
    http://offgridsurvival.com/wh...
  • justnot... mustang... 2012/10/15 03:43:22
    justnotsaying (:
    +2
    I don't think a full blown civil war will break out, but I think random shootings with more people killed will rise. You're right the wealthy will be safe.
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  • charles nelson 2012/08/22 22:53:10
    NO!
    charles nelson
    +1
    First of all the idea is Dumb beyond stupid, and anyway theres to many Yankee spies livin down here. Hell, you never see any KKK rallies anymore. It's really gettin hard to express yourself anymore.
  • Mike charles... 2013/01/02 20:13:29
    Mike
    well in FL the farther south you head, you actually head north they say (lol)
  • charles... Mike 2013/01/03 18:26:17
    charles nelson
    +1
    Still like the weather better in Miami that New Yonkee
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/08/19 23:36:33
    YES!
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    +6
    There are those who said Lincoln did not free the slaves but in reality made slaves of us all
  • mustang... John Ga... 2012/08/20 04:03:10
    mustangluver
    +4
    He did free the slaves after much thought but he fully expected to ship them to South America and Africa, but yes it did cause yrs worth of grief for the country.
  • stephen 2012/08/12 21:05:20
    YES!
    stephen
    +5
    unfortunately i think its closer then we all think
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