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Is America really "The land of the free"?

Bali 2012/06/28 15:15:11
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  • Leena 2012/06/30 23:35:18
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Leena
    It wasn't really obama. People get excluded and mistreated when they act out of the norm. Your different? Good luck.
  • cddjmikey 2012/06/29 03:22:19
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    cddjmikey
    +2
    At least Obamacare is on hold. They have to rewrite to call it a "tax" now. I give it 0% chance of passing !
  • in vino... cddjmikey 2012/06/29 19:53:23
  • Alli 2012/06/29 00:18:13
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Alli
    I don't believe it was Obama though. I don't think anyone is really free.We're all slaves to the conformist way of life. Because if you try to be different they make your life hell. and that is not freedom
  • Freeranger 2012/06/28 18:03:49
    Yes, we are free........
    Freeranger
    As of this moment we apparently are.
  • SteveMarine- JLA 2012/06/28 16:59:43
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +3
    Not really... Perhaps more so then some other countries... But Obama promised change....and he has followed thru.
  • in vino... SteveMa... 2012/06/28 17:03:13
  • Selketskiss 2012/06/28 16:46:04 (edited)
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Remember remember the 5th of November...Well Americans will have their own song of revolution in the future..people can only be pushed so far and take so much of their freedoms being stripped away and can only stand so much force and corruption shoved on them before they rise up and take action..that is when the real hell begins. Be ready., the entire gov has been hijacked..
  • Vision of Verve 2012/06/28 16:22:47
  • Bali Vision ... 2012/06/28 20:49:59
    Bali
    never heard it called manipulated, many things, but i never remember "manipulating" someone like obama has. usually i give em a kiss.
  • Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪ 2012/06/28 15:56:57
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪
    +5
    Land of the lying socialist.
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/28 15:53:59
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +5
    The land of the tax -land of the burden!!!!!!
  • Clyde 2012/06/28 15:52:42
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Clyde
  • Tasine 2012/06/28 15:52:17
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Tasine
    +6
    No, we aren't. We have been programmed to THINK we have been free. And the loss of freedoms didn't start with Obama, though he has tried to outdo every predecessor in the spending department. One major start to America's downfall occurred when the government started taxing income to pay for the Civil War......and once the war was over, the law lived on, like all laws.

    The socialist cause escalated with the formation of the federal reserve and REALLY escalated during FDR's reign, then with Johnson's reign. And much as I have loved both Presidents Bush, they didn't help our freedoms either when they recognized Agenda 21. But Obama has worked his czars' butts off eliminating one freedom after another. And bear in mind that all laws are made to RESTRICT some group's freedoms. Only a very few are good laws.

    Today should be made into a day of grieving across the country. I suggest everyone start wearing a black armband and waving a black flag out your car window.
  • in vino... Tasine 2012/06/28 15:53:07
  • Tasine in vino... 2012/06/28 16:10:02
    Tasine
    +3
    Thank you. Hopefully, so will others.
  • Wolfman 2012/06/28 15:51:12
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Wolfman
    +6
    Join the TEA Party. $upport Mitt Romney. Repeal Obamacare!

    tea party obamacare tea party obamacare tea party obamacare romney obamacare
  • Happy PJ 2012/06/28 15:46:39
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    Happy PJ
    +9
    With the decision today....no we are no more!
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/28 15:38:31
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    jackolantyrn356
    +9
    Real Americans(Called Republicans) fought, bled and died to free the Slaves.Now Based on a Kenyan we are back in slavery, but this time it is every one. Democrats did it both times
  • Bali jackola... 2012/06/28 20:51:43
    Bali
    great point.
  • dear•LT13☻ 2012/06/28 15:30:26
    Yes, we are free........
    dear•LT13☻
    +6
    You are only truly Free in America IF YOU HAVE MONEY.
    Otherwise - your just another prisoner.
  • in vino... dear•LT13☻ 2012/06/28 15:37:18
  • niki dear•LT13☻ 2012/06/28 15:49:49
  • in vino... niki 2012/06/28 15:55:55 (edited)
  • niki in vino... 2012/06/28 16:50:32 (edited)
    niki
    +1
    It is so mush easier to attack the messenger, than the message. Although your "net worth " fact is true, the rest of your reply...

    "The recession {started by Bush and prolonged by OBSTRUCTIONIST Republicans voted in by the wacky Tea Party (my quote)} caused the greatest upheaval among the middle class. Only roughly half of middle­-class Americans remained on the same economic rung during the downturn, the Fed found. Their median net worth — the value of assets such as homes, automobiles and stocks minus any debt — suffered the biggest drops. By contrast, the wealthiest families’ median net worth rose slightly.

    While the rich have gotten richer the poor have gotten poorer and the middle class has been annihilated. But more to the point - how has the middle class died and the rich gained wealth the last three years? Simple. The Government Gave Them Money.

    That's right kids. For all their self-starter let the market do as it may rhetoric, when push came to shove the plutocrats took the bailouts. Did I say took bailouts? I meant extorted the bailouts through terrorism - it was a crisis, it was an emergency, and the classic Bernanke line "we might not have an economy on Monday." Spooky language. Things get serious when rich people get in trouble now however it is just the 99% who a...







    It is so mush easier to attack the messenger, than the message. Although your "net worth " fact is true, the rest of your reply...
    mush easier attach messenger message net worth true rest reply
    "The recession {started by Bush and prolonged by OBSTRUCTIONIST Republicans voted in by the wacky Tea Party (my quote)} caused the greatest upheaval among the middle class. Only roughly half of middle­-class Americans remained on the same economic rung during the downturn, the Fed found. Their median net worth — the value of assets such as homes, automobiles and stocks minus any debt — suffered the biggest drops. By contrast, the wealthiest families’ median net worth rose slightly.

    While the rich have gotten richer the poor have gotten poorer and the middle class has been annihilated. But more to the point - how has the middle class died and the rich gained wealth the last three years? Simple. The Government Gave Them Money.

    That's right kids. For all their self-starter let the market do as it may rhetoric, when push came to shove the plutocrats took the bailouts. Did I say took bailouts? I meant extorted the bailouts through terrorism - it was a crisis, it was an emergency, and the classic Bernanke line "we might not have an economy on Monday." Spooky language. Things get serious when rich people get in trouble now however it is just the 99% who are in trouble - no reason to panic.

    But TARP {under Bush (my quote)} is perhaps the most obvious betrayal of stated principles in the history of Neoliberalism; a total market failure (that's not supposed to happen), rewarding the violation of property rights (fraud in mortgage securities market), and the use of taxpayer money to pick economic winners (cronyism). The Neoliberal experiment failed and all the happy love letters written by the established powers to free market capitalism and all the snooty justifications those same powers made to the poor as to why they should be in charge were comprehensively invalidated. The ideology was obliterated. But what remained was the 1%'s will to power, so damn the rules and take all you can get.

    It started with TARP but it wouldn't end there because this wasn't about stabilizing markets this was about a group retaining its power. Because they own the country and no eventuality was tolerable that did not leave them in the dominant position. That is why bailouts stopped once the 1% were secure, the "emergency" was over because the owners were back in control and impoverishing the rest of the country was acceptable. For some impoverishing the 99% may have even been preferable. One wonders the deals the bailed out plutocrats are getting right now on formerly middle class assets - assets lost in a crisis the plutocrats on Wall Street created. What a country.

    So now its on to breaking unions to drive down wages and privatize government services because then the only way to survive will be to borrow money as Neo-Feudalism takes hold with the rich living off their rents and their puppets in both parties watching the store in D.C. It is truly the dawn of a new era."
    http://www.dailykos.com/story...
    : } back at 'cha.
    (more)
  • in vino... niki 2012/06/28 17:22:47
  • in vino... in vino... 2012/06/28 17:25:13
  • niki in vino... 2012/06/28 18:26:42
    niki
    P.S. If the Tea Party doesn't wise up it will be for less wages and your food will be of suspect quality.
  • angelbaby in vino... 2012/06/29 19:48:46
    angelbaby
    +1
    Amen to that!
  • niki in vino... 2012/06/28 17:43:52
    niki
    +1
    What you fail to see is that you aren't every case out there. You look at yourself and say, "Hey, I did it!" but you look at others in poverty and don't see the hurdles they have to jump "on top of being poor." You seem to have had access to free K-12 education, who paid for that? Were you born to an unwed teenage mother? Did you have learning deficits caused by poor nutrition or fetal exposure to harmful drugs or alcohol? There are so many scenarios, where if the Tea Party had complete control they would throw those people to wolves.
    Yes, we are a nation of more opportunity, but we are also a nation of compassion...at least we use to be.
    Thanks, but I have my own shoes. It is hard, however, to pull yourself up by your own boot straps when you don't have boots. To look at those poor children and deny them that is abhorent.
  • in vino... niki 2012/06/28 17:54:59
  • niki in vino... 2012/06/28 18:24:28 (edited)
    niki
    +1

    Guess I touched a nerve, too bad I didn't touch your heart...
    guess hit nerve missed heart
  • Bali niki 2012/06/28 20:54:54
    Bali
    +1
    you are lost toots. why don't YOU pay for the less fortunate? we did not ask to, you did when YOU elected this imbecile with all the other braindead minions that voted for him because he was black. what lack of intelligence you and your cronies have. if it was not so sad it would be funny.
  • niki Bali 2012/06/28 21:15:37
    niki
    +1
    Toots...that's funny!
    toots funny
  • Bali niki 2012/06/29 12:49:51
    Bali
    you finally got something right.
  • niki Bali 2012/06/29 16:08:44 (edited)
    niki
    Oh...I'm right a good deal of the time, that's why I chose to live my life on the left! ; }
  • Bali niki 2012/06/29 17:26:46
    Bali
    yeah....
  • topcat128 dear•LT13☻ 2012/06/28 23:23:28
    topcat128
    +1
    The rich, for the most part in Obama's pocket ,just like they were when Hilter took power in Germany.
  • angelbaby 2012/06/28 15:27:14
    Not anymore, Obama has changed that........
    angelbaby
    +11
    We lost so much today ..
    obama changed lost
  • in vino... angelbaby 2012/06/28 15:39:01

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