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Is America better off now than it was before Obama took office? (This is the most pressing question this election year, in my humble view.)

JenSemPa 2012/04/26 15:06:37
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And please note -- the question is concerned with whether AMERICA is better off. Not with whether YOU are individually better off.

If you're better off now than four years ago, I'm happy for you.

But that should not be the basis of your answer, because that's not what is being asked.
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  • Uranos7 2012/04/26 15:09:51
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    Uranos7
    +14
    Record length of unemployment,
    Record federal government debt,
    Record number of children living in poverty,
    and several new restrictions on the first amendment.
    America is by far worse off than four years ago.

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  • Spanner 2012/05/29 15:45:07
    Yes, America is better off under Obama.
    Spanner
    Obama's dealing with two wars not of his making, a volatile situation in the middle east not of his making and a recession not of his making, and two of which WERE caused by the previous government, he's enacting legislation to give full health coverage to the poor and stop the non treatment of pre existing conditions despite the hostile forces of multi millionaires and their billionaire backers lined up against him, and the economy is now growing again. He's doing a pretty good job.
  • themadhare ~IJM 2012/05/04 03:55:04
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    themadhare ~IJM
    more debt, more people out of work, weaker dollar.
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/04/30 00:59:53
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    TruBluTopaz
    I don't think America is better off. We are burdened with a healthcare program that will guy Medicare, and an economy that is employing fewer people than before. Put this with the various flaws like Fast and Furious, the debacle over Trayvon, the various handouts to Obama insiders and it makes this look like a very disorganized and self-serving administration.
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/04/29 23:24:54
    Not sure / Mixed feelings.
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    better off before 911 bush makemore money send our troops to war.Obama has done all he can to bring America down.He has to go.
  • rightside 2012/04/29 23:20:52
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    rightside
    +1
    He's been the most divisive president in my time on earth. I've never heard more people being accused of hating blacks than now, and bama is in the leader of that.
    Then, he calls people to tighten their belts while they go on one after another lavish vacations on the tax payer dime.
  • firebird 2012/04/27 15:37:39
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    firebird
    +2
    absolutely not ! its all too obvious and it takes the mentality of the delusional Liberal to believe that .
  • niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20 2012/04/27 04:28:15 (edited)
    Yes, America is better off under Obama.
    niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20
    +1
    We have very few precious American heroes being sacrificed abroad. For nothing!
  • mrdog 2012/04/27 03:01:35
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    mrdog
    +3
    Guess best way to look at it...How is that hope and change thing working out? bark
  • exhon2009 2012/04/27 02:07:41
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    exhon2009
    +3
    The unemployment rate is higher now than when Obama took office. This doesn't include the hundreds of thousands that have quit looking for work.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/04/26 23:43:21
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +5
    Because you asked whether America was better or worse off, I cite statistics. And the statistics tell the story. I happen to think it's bad news. But I suspect that Obama exults in that news.
  • Kat 2012/04/26 22:53:00
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    Kat
    +3
    Not even close.
  • kmay 2012/04/26 22:38:27
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    kmay
    +4
    Mr. Romney

    “Is it easier to make ends meet?

    Is it easier to sell your home or buy a new one?

    Have you saved what you needed for retirement?

    Are you making more in your job?

    Do you have a better chance to get a better job?

    Do you pay less at the pump?”

    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO NO!
  • Charge 2012/04/26 22:08:02
    No, America is not better off under Obama.
    Charge
    +4
    73% of Americans agree....
    The Reuters/Ipsos poll found 73 percent of Americans believe the United States is "off on the wrong track," and just one in five, 21 percent, think the country is headed in the right direction.

    The survey found that 47 percent believe "the worst is yet to come" in the U.S. economy, an increase of 13 percentage points from a year ago when this question was last raised.

    Wednesday, April 25, 2012

    Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Likely U.S. Voters say the country is heading in the right direction, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey taken the week ending Sunday, April 22.
  • niki 2012/04/26 21:40:38
    Yes, America is better off under Obama.
    niki
    +2

    06 January 2012 - Economy

    "The GOP talking point that ’Obama is a job killer” is debunked in just one chart. President Obama took office in January 2009 when the ‘great recession’ was at it’s deepest. Up to that point millions of jobs had already been lost to the recession and in that month alone over 800,000 jobs were lost. In the following months many millions of additional jobs were lost. Certainly there is a point where we begin to direct blame for the economy towards Obama and away from Bush but it’s foolish at best to blame Obama for the millions of jobs lost within the first few months of his presidency when millions of jobs had already been shed leading up to the oath of office.

    The 2009 stimulus bill was signed into law in February of that year and you can see in the chart that job losses begin to recede quite rapidly in the following months until finally positive job growth begins a year later in March 2010. It could be argued that positive job growth really didn’t take shape until October of 2010 because much of the job growth (and then losses) from March 2010 to September 2010 was due to the temporary hiring related to the 2010 census."
    http://leftcall.com/2012/01/0...
  • Charge niki 2012/04/26 22:14:30
    Charge
    +2
    Let's get real here....
    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The job market is getting better, but it's far from healed. Will President Obama be able to turn things around in time to save his own job?

    From the labor market's height in January 2008 to its bottom in February 2010, 8.8 million jobs were cut, and the unemployment rate soared as high as 10% in October 2009.

    Obama has taken a lot of heat for that.

    But only about half of those job losses -- or 4.3 million -- happened under his watch.

    And by measuring his record against that benchmark, it looks like Obama could actually break even, and maybe even come out ahead on jobs.

    As of December, roughly two thirds of the jobs lost during Obama's presidency have been recovered.

    That leaves a hole of slightly more than 1.6 million jobs for him to fill by the end of 2012.

    It's a tall order.
  • niki Charge 2012/04/27 15:07:07 (edited)
    niki
    "Just in Case You Were Wondering if the GOP Planned to Screw Obama from the Beginning"
    The notion of cooperation in Congress now officially a joke
    WASHINGTON D.C. — As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington, D.C.
    The event — which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured — serves as the prologue of Robert Draper’s much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, “Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives.”
    According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio...











    "Just in Case You Were Wondering if the GOP Planned to Screw Obama from the Beginning"
    The notion of cooperation in Congress now officially a joke
    WASHINGTON D.C. — As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington, D.C.
    The event — which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured — serves as the prologue of Robert Draper’s much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, “Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives.”
    According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) — who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz.
    For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama’s legislative platform.
    http://littlegreenfootballs.c...


    plotted ways win political power brakes obamas legislative platform httplittlegreenfootballs
    Those last two lines represent the entirety of Republican filibuster threats in the past couple of years. They don’t even represent true filibusters, which require that the Congressperson stand and argue against the proposal for as long as they can tolerate it. Independent Senator Bernie Sanders demonstrated how this is done when he staged an eight and a half hour demonstration in opposition to the continuation of the tax cuts for the wealthy."
    https://538refugees.wordpress...


    The United States Senate actually posts the numbers. The number of motions for cloture filed more than doubled the year the democrats gained the majority from 68 to 139 in the 110th Congress and 136 in the 111th Congress. This represents a stunning attempt to gum up the works on the part of the republicans. Not that anyone’s hands are clean on this issue. I went so far as to create a chart on the motions for cloture over the past 40 years. The red bars indicate the years that the republicans had a Senate majority and the blue bars indicate democratic control. The party filing the cloture motions is the minority party for obvious reasons. The chart also shows a pattern of increasing abuse by both parties since the early 90s. But the over 100% increase in cloture motions that occurred when the democrats gained the majority is nothing short of staggering.
    90s 100 increase cloture motions occurred democrats gained majority staggering
    http://www.therobberbaronecon...
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  • Charge niki 2012/04/27 15:35:50
    Charge
    This whole thing about Republicans planning to get Obama out of office and "return to power" is exactly what the Democrats do when the Republicans are in power. What am I supposed to feel sorry for Obama and the Liberal Democrats?... well I don't, they had complete control of congress and the White House for two years and did nothing for the economy; what did they do instead? They rammed through an unconstitutional health care bill, that no one read, that is driving us deeper into debt... great going.
    So now they whine, boo hoo, the Republicans want to get us out of office... please,
    P.S. When Republicans philosophically disagree with Democrats it's obstructionism, but when Democrats refuse to bring bills to the floor of the Senate for vote or discussion it's progress..... I call it hypocrisy.

    give me a break. democrat hypocrite
  • niki Charge 2012/04/27 16:29:45
    niki

    Republicans whined about it and now they are the ones misusing it...alot!
  • Charge niki 2012/04/27 16:40:59
    Charge
    +1
    How are they misusing it? I'd like to hear that.
  • Charge Charge 2012/04/27 16:51:09
    Charge
    Hear are the 'actual' cloture motions.... read them and explain to me how they are being misused by Republicans????
    Notice who filed them and the results...
    http://www.senate.gov/pagelay...

    Further Harry Reid had the best record for breaking filibusters... so what are You Progressive Liberals whining about now?
    http://www.rollcall.com/news/...

    You need to stop listening to the Progressive propaganda, it makes you look uninformed....
  • niki Charge 2012/04/27 17:03:42
    niki
    This graph may be more informative, along with the article explanation...
    graph informative article explanation
    "These are the numbers on cloture over the last several decades. Often, but not always, cloture is employed by senate majority leaders in response to filibuster threats from the minority. Cloture isn't always necessarily correlated with filibusters, but broadly speaking, the two often go hand in hand.

    What's particularly striking here is the GOP's use of filibuster threats, and the correlated increase in Democratic cloture motions. Take, for instance, the huge spike in cloture motions filed from the Republican-led 109th Congress in 2005-2006 to the Democratic-majority 110th in 2007-2008.

    "It is the most striking in history," American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Norm Ornstein told TPM.

    What happened, Ornstein says, is that during the last two years of President George W. Bush's second term, Republicans offered "no initiatives to speak of."

    The initiatives were coming from the Democrats, and the Republicans wanted to kill 'em, or slow things down."
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmem...
  • Charge niki 2012/04/27 17:17:44
    Charge
    +2
    I still don't know why You are whining? This seems to be a thing that has been building for a long time; however, as I showed, Reid got by those threats and succeeded in cloture!
    Remember, the Democrats had COMPLETE control of both the house and the senate for two years and still did nothing for jobs or the economy....
    Both parties block actions that they disagree with, this does NOT FORGIVE or REMOVE RESPONSIBILITY from Obama's FAILURES.
    Note the DATE on this....
    obama leadership failure

    obama leadership failure

    obama leadership failure
  • niki Charge 2012/04/27 18:29:22
    niki
    "Of course there’s been a spending binge under Obama; that’s the whole point of stimulus spending! So, Obama increased the debt some $700 billion in his first few months in office. Since then, as Blue Texan notes, we’ve taken in much less money than we otherwise would have because of a lousy economy and, yes, because of very low taxes compared to our historical norms. And not just because of the Bush tax cuts, either, but also because of the Obama payroll tax holiday.

    Knoller is right that, in simple dollar terms, the delta under Obama has been higher than under Bush. $4.939 trillion is indeed bigger than $4.899 trillion. Blue Texan’s insistence that we should look at the numbers in terms of percentage of increase is also plausible, although not if we’re going to compare eight years to three! On an annualized percentage basis, Obama still beats Bush.

    But, again, that’s not shocking! Bush inherited a mild recession that quickly righted itself. Even the massive spending on two wars and the Medicare drug boondoggle wasn’t as hard a hit as the Great Recession, whose effects have occurred mostly under Obama."
    http://www.outsidethebeltway....

    Helpful hint...If I look uninformed to you, maybe you need an eye exam
    "Of course there’s been a spending binge under Obama; that’s the whole point of stimulus spending! So, Obama increased the debt some $700 billion in his first few months in office. Since then, as Blue Texan notes, we’ve taken in much less money than we otherwise would have because of a lousy economy and, yes, because of very low taxes compared to our historical norms. And not just because of the Bush tax cuts, either, but also because of the Obama payroll tax holiday.

    Knoller is right that, in simple dollar terms, the delta under Obama has been higher than under Bush. $4.939 trillion is indeed bigger than $4.899 trillion. Blue Texan’s insistence that we should look at the numbers in terms of percentage of increase is also plausible, although not if we’re going to compare eight years to three! On an annualized percentage basis, Obama still beats Bush.

    But, again, that’s not shocking! Bush inherited a mild recession that quickly righted itself. Even the massive spending on two wars and the Medicare drug boondoggle wasn’t as hard a hit as the Great Recession, whose effects have occurred mostly under Obama."
    http://www.outsidethebeltway....

    Helpful hint...If I look uninformed to you, maybe you need an eye exam
    effects occurred obama httpwww outsidethebeltway helpful hint uninformed eye exam
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  • Charge niki 2012/04/27 21:54:23
    Charge
    All you are posting is left leaning blog info...
    I posted actual Government Data from their CBO...
    guess who's info is correct..
    You can believe whatever lies Obama tells you, but those lies won't come true and all you will be left with is Progressive Liberal promises, no more.
    The stimulus failed, Loans to green energy companies failed, bailouts failed, Obama care failed, our economy is contracting, still high unemployment, more costly regulation.... are you living under a rock or just choose to be blind to the utter and complete failure of the Progressive Liberals.
  • niki Charge 2012/04/28 00:20:16
    niki
    "The American economy has been growing since the second half of 2009, coming close to a 4 percent growth rate in early 2010 before faltering. Growth slowed nearly to a halt in the first quarter of 2011 but accelerated throughout the rest of the year.

    The first-quarter growth was weaker than expected. United States stock markets largely shrugged it off, however, perhaps in part because the country is growing while many economies are contracting.

    Economists initially predicted a much weaker showing in the latest quarter, partly because of a large accumulation of inventories in the fall and winter that needed to be worked off. But in the last few weeks, expectations rose on strong jobs reports and rising consumer confidence."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...

    I think you are blind to the truth...again I suggest an eye exam.
    rising consumer confidence httpwww nytimes com20120 blind truth eye exam
    Or, maybe ...
  • Charge niki 2012/04/28 13:49:25
    Charge
    As usual you are using a decidedly left leaning news source, the economic growth rate never reached the 4% mark, it was close to 3% and now stands at 2.2%. get the real data and see what really exists.
    The affects of Obama's unfettered spending is coming home to roost, the money has run out and he can not artificially bolster economic growth any longer.
    "Government spending, which helped prop up the economy during the recession, has also become a big drag in recent years. The winding down of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is eating into military spending, which fell sharply in the first quarter, while tight budgets are leading to spending cuts at the state and local levels.
    Suffolk County, New York, on Long Island, ended 2011 with its first budget deficit in 20 years and faces a projected $530 million deficit through 2013. On Friday, the county began sending out more than 300 layoff notices to county employees, part of a proposed $160 million in budget cuts and revenue increases. The county managed to paper over its deficits for a few years through one-time revenues, newly elected county executive Steven Bellone said, but with sales-tax revenues still not back to prerecession levels, such moves are no longer enough."

    http://online.wsj.com/article...
  • niki Charge 2012/04/28 19:15:23 (edited)
    niki
    And you are using a source that you have to subscribe to read the entire article...hmmmmm?
    I wonder which party lied us into one of the wars mentioned and then botched quickly resolving the other? Both of which were unfunded and unnecessary and added to the deficit. But wait...thanks to President Obama...
    party lied wars mentioned botched resolving unfunded unnecessary wait president
  • Charge niki 2012/04/28 22:33:19
    Charge
    +1
    Ya, another totally classless move, Obama and his minions politicizing the killing of Bin Laden. What a loser.
    obama no class

    ya totally classless obama minions politicizing killing bin laden loser

    ya totally classless obama minions politicizing killing bin laden loser
  • niki Charge 2012/04/29 12:21:55
    niki
    Straight from the talking points of John McCain and the FOX propagandists.
  • Charge niki 2012/04/29 15:13:39
    Charge
    That's ok, I know You have nothing intelligent to say.
  • niki Charge 2012/04/29 19:37:48
    niki
    Back at you...
  • Charge niki 2012/04/29 23:15:36
    Charge
    With ZERO as usual.
    obama zero
  • niki Charge 2012/04/30 18:24:32 (edited)
    niki
    Talk about nothing intelligent to say...LOL!
    talk intelligent lol
    talk intelligent lol
    talk intelligent lol httpwww google comimgres
    Hey, let's keeping playing this silly little game and see who can come up with the most outrageous images! And then for good measure you can use some more ad hominem insults when you have nothing else to say...sound like fun???????? : }
  • Charge niki 2012/04/30 18:38:04
    Charge
    Name one insult I have used....
  • niki Charge 2012/04/30 22:08:02
    niki

    Insulting by implication...you're very good at it.

    If you're confused, here's one for you...
    insulting implication confused
  • Charge niki 2012/04/30 22:29:42
    Charge
    That's what I thought, another Progressive Liberal Lie, You Liberals just can't help[ yourselves can You?
    At least You are somewhat entertaining...
    "Insulting by implication", that's all You have ... Huh?
    laughing cat

    laughing cat
  • niki Charge 2012/05/01 00:50:08 (edited)
    niki
    Meh...
    meh
    You've implied I'm not intelligent, a liar, blind, a hypocrite, a whiner and I live under a rock.
    The only thing left is to bestow on you the...
    meh implied intelligent liar blind hypocritea whiner live rock bestow
  • Charge niki 2012/05/01 01:46:13
    Charge
    There You go again, lying. I didn't say any of those things about You. I said You appear uninformed.
    liberal crap
  • Charge niki 2012/05/01 01:46:50
  • niki Charge 2012/05/01 14:59:22 (edited)

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