Is a $5 'Skin Tax' for Strip Clubs Fair or Foul?

Yes it is.

Well, I guess if everything that goes wrong is his fault then he gets credit for everything that is right too. Can't have one without the other.

Yes, you can. You guys proved that with all the 'Blame Bush' bravo sierra. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Hmmm... so I assume it was bad under Bush, but good to do it under Obama? Got you! Thanks.

No, it's not good for either to do it, however, it's time to start applying the same standards to both sides. Barry assumed office but he never assumed responsibility.

We tax alcohol (too much), tobbacco (not enough), and many other vices. A skin tax for adult entertainment is reasonable and fair. My only concern is that they limit their tax
STRICTLY to adult entertainment, and let legitimate nude recreation and living venues
and gatherings, such as those affiliated with the American Association for Nude Recreation, The Naturist Society, and other similar organizations alone. Their primary purpose is not
adult entertainment. It is to provide venues and social oppertunities for people to enjoy
recreation, socializing, and living free of clothes. They don't deserve to be taxed.

Too much tax on alcohol and not enough on tobacco? Are you high? Tobacco is taxed anytime someone cannot think of something else to tax. Oh, but I forget, getting drunk is ok and acceptable in todays society, but lighting up a cigarette means you are a leper.

If you institute a sin tax on adult entertainment, it will only be passed directly to the consumer. If you assume a $20 cover at an modest club, then the $5 tax is a 25% tax. Ouch.

I'm with you.

Do you have the right to collect money from your neighbors for viewing naked women, smoking or drinking assuming you are not providing the service or good? If not, how is it possible for you to delegate that right to another? Is it possible to give what you don't have?

Think it's time we started taxing churches and open a Religious Indoctrination Mitigation Fund.

How about a skin tax at the Beach, or Public Pool's that's where the Big Bucks Are

It's a sin tax like they have on smokes and booze

your a idiot

No "you're" an idiot.

lol

Glad you liked that

What does that have to do with anything?

It's you're not your.

I believe I was replying to your original post.

"It's a sin tax like they have on smokes and booze"

That's a very old saying.

I know. But my question is what does one have to do with the other and how does it justify it?

I find most taxes hard to justify. But politicians love to tax and spend our money. Such a tax would have no impact on me personally as I do none of the things associated with "sin" taxes. I'm more concerned with the taxes that do affect me, like real estate, income and business taxes.

They're impossible to justify morally. There are plenty of taxes that don't directly affect me though they all affect us one way or another. Certainly a tax on entertainment of which I don't partake in a city in which I do not live would not affect me much at all. However, the problem is people's willingness to allow or even support such things merely because they feel they do not affect them.

The very idea of taxation is predicated on the belief that a person may delegate the authority to another to force an individual to surrender his property. However, since no individual has this authority, he cannot delegate it any more than one may give a dollar he does not have to another.

Sin taxes are worse in a way because people feel justified in using force to collect money from others on those things which they do not partake or find repugnant, thus believing they are not hurt by the action or worse, they believe they can help others through coercion. However, those who support these taxes are hurt through the moral corruption of their complicity in the immoral use of force, their attempt to shift the tax burden from themselves to others and the damage to the economy that ripples out from any taxation..

I agree with you but don't really feel , short of an armed insurrection, we can do anything about it

No need for violence (in fact, that would increase the likelihood of external involvement). Look at what they are doing to the economy. It can't go on forever. The best thing to do is to live as much economically as possible in the gray market without taxes, licenses and regulations as you can individually (I'm not recommending risking one's safety or family). Self sufficiency isn't realistic for the great majority (nor is it sensible), but the greater the economic separation from the state, the better off we will all be when their credit runs dry.

Very interesting

once again liberals trying to impose a unfair tax on a group whose actions they find distasteful. now if they want to impose this tax on strippers plus beach goers,school athletics, gyms, any communal shower areas, the olympics, and anyone else that exposes more skin then is necessary then i am fine with it.

You're quick to blame liberals but just because Hutchinson is a Dem doesn't mean she's liberal.
But did you notice that the liberal atheist Gov Rick Perry of the godless socialist state of Texas imposed a similar tax FIVE YEARS AGO?!
Of course, you didn't - because you can't see past your ideology.
And just how much skin is "necessary"?
Sounds like you'd enjoy living in Burqavillie, Muslimtown.

i did not say anything about perry because i did not even know it happened can't give a opinion on something that is not broadcasted.and considering she is a liberal from illinois i would be willing to bet she is a liberal.and your whining does not answer the question. how much skin is it necessary to expose to preform a act? i myself don't care if someone wears a burka or walks around nude. but why should you punish someone for dancing on a stage in a bikini and not someone walking across a beach? why just a select few?

That's where your blind ideology handicaps you. You automatically assumed that a DEMOCRAT who does something you don't like MUST be a LIBERAL and didn't even stop to consider that a CONSERVATIVE or a REPUBLICAN can have identical or similar views.

First off, I don't support the tax AT ALL and hope that it's overturned or squashed but I don't understand how you can't tell the difference between what's acceptable in public and what's only allowed in a licensed establishment.

Taxed Enough Already.

So basicly he wants to put Strip clubs out of bussiness, The highend ones already charge a cover and a lot have a 2 drink minimum. Now you want to add $5 on top of that? They are just going to loss customers. What's next? $5 to start your each morning?

opps start your car

A skin tax how ridiculous

This is just another way to suck money from the common man to redistribute it.

I'm of the opinion that taxes for any form of vice is tyranny

Illinois is broke and the state just increased its income tax by 66%, so no one will go for another tax increase. I also question the "sexual assault prevention fund" and its purpose - how does one "prevent" sexual assault, other than arming potential victims or putting known perps in jail for life? This sounds like just another slush fund for some obscure, politically connected group that will leech off the taxpayers like Chicago's "Cease Fire" group is doing.

No tax if fair. Taxes are only used for social engineering. Someone, usually a fool, deciedes what is good for YOU and what is not, If he thinks it is good he subsidizes it if he thinks it is bad he taxes it. All Taxes are products of the Devil.

Government needs to spend less money and collect less taxes, they already hide dozens of taxes in everything from grocery bills to telephone bills, they will just think of another tax on so called consumption if this one goes through.