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In Wake Of Texas Gang Rape, Florida Lawmaker Proposes Blame the Rape Victim for her Clothes

☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/08/31 17:03:56
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Last week, the world learned about the town of Cleveland, Texas, where 18 teenage boys gang-raped an 11-year-old girl and, according to The New York Times,
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/09assault.html?_r=1&adxn...

caused the community to rend their garments about how the crime would ruin the lives ... of the rapists. There were many lessons to learn. Lessons like: maybe reporters who cover stories like this shouldn't exclusively focus on the adversity faced by rapists. Or: Maybe everyone in Cleveland, Texas is actually some kind of awful monster?


Here's the lesson that Florida state Rep. Kathleen Passidomo took away from the awful event: the state should step in and regulate the wardrobe of 11-year-old girls! Seriously! This is a thing that is happening in Florida, and in our lives, somehow. Per David Edwards of Raw Story:


"There was an article about an 11 year old girl who was gangraped in Texas by 18 young men because she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute," Passidomo declared.

"And her parents let her attend school like that. And I think it's incumbent upon us to create some areas where students can be safe in school and show up in proper attire so what happened in Texas doesn't happen to our students," she added.
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What an excellent idea! In Afghanistan, the Taliban required women to wear the full-body chadri in public, and that solved the problem of institutionalized violence against women forever, yay!

I think it's incumbent upon us, as intelligent human beings , to devote a moment to a collective wince. As a genus, politicians aren't the brightest wicks in the candelabra, but they usually possess sufficient self-awareness to shield the public from the horrorshows of their minds.

Blaming the rape of an 11-year-old girl on her parents' sense of fashion -- and to do so out loud -- smacks of rank amateurism. A devastating attack ad will probably result from this slip-up, and unlike most attack ads, it will be richly deserved.
This is where I remind you that Florida is where state lawmakers have twice failed to pass legislation that would make having sex with animals illegal, probably because how else would they make more Florida legislators, right?



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  • Doc. J 2012/08/31 17:17:36
    Doc. J
    +7
    Lovely.
    Yeah, an 11yo is at fault for being gang raped.....

    I don't often become angry enough to have violent thoughts about a female.....But I would, in the darkest part of my heart, like to b!tch-slap her with a fence picket.
    Stupid broad...

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  • Pam 2012/11/19 02:55:39
    Pam
    Where is Sister Mildred with a ruler when you need it?
  • BloodlessVeins 2012/10/10 11:29:23
    BloodlessVeins
    Most victims of rape already blame themselves...out of fear....now this person puts the blame on this 11 year old...condensention and maybe her own fear. Does she think if women dress like you they won't???? And this is a girl!
  • holyheretic 2012/09/08 10:13:45
  • cypher 2012/09/05 18:21:28
    cypher
    +1
    No matter what a person wears it douse not condone any sexual action no matter what the age.
  • Nameless 2012/09/01 06:43:51
    Nameless
    +1
    I truly hope I never see that woman... What a PoS she is.
  • eyeballz 2012/09/01 04:39:39
    eyeballz
    I don't care what side of the political fence this woman is from , she is a complete idiot !!!!
  • Níl mé leat 2012/09/01 04:05:17
  • clasact 2012/09/01 00:41:51
    clasact
    +1
    and we still keep putting people like her and the other idiot Akin in office,when do we the people wise up
  • macy 2012/08/31 22:37:21
    macy
    Why did that article express sympathy for the rapists? They should not be given any sympathy.
  • bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/08/31 22:14:36
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +4
    How any one, male or female, can justify the gang rape of an 11 year old is beyond my comprehension. I don't care if she was stark naked!!! You place the entire blame on the victim and abrogate the responsibility and decency of 18 (My God - 18) men who forcibly raped that baby. They were just helpless in the face of her overwhelming sexuality, eh?
  • ☆Snapefangirl☆ 2012/08/31 20:14:53
    ☆Snapefangirl☆
    +1
    What a stupid statement.
  • lil crazy 2012/08/31 19:58:26
    lil crazy
    +4
    I cannot believe anyone would blame the 11 year old and does that mean that a 21 year old prostitute deserves to be gang raped?
    I cannot believe how twisted these people think.
  • Beck∞♥☮♫♫♫∞ 2012/08/31 17:54:32
  • EdVenture 2012/08/31 17:48:24
    EdVenture
    Must want their votes.
  • D.C. Willis 2012/08/31 17:45:29
    D.C. Willis
    +1
    My wife and I monitor the clothing worn by our daughter. We do this because we know there are some sicko's out there and she could draw their attention. At the same time it is ridiculous to think or state that because these animals had no self control their actions were justified in any way. So I guess if these animals had went to the public pool and raped a woman because she was wearing a bathing suit it would be justified?
  • Scott B... D.C. Wi... 2012/09/06 20:42:19
    Scott Baker
    +2
    D.C, out of concern for your daughter, I will offer some words of extreme caution. It is not "SICKOS" from whom you should (or can reasonably expect to) protect your daughter, but largely blameless boys who are taught by our misogynistic culture that women are merely sex toys for men and baby making machines for the rich to use for ever-cheaper labor. Not many "sickos" target girls who are extroverted and are attempting to draw attention to themselves. "Sickos" are more statistically likely to target girls who are wallflowers, introverts, and less likely to struggle.

    By all means, monitor her clothing, but also be sure to teach her to know the difference between a boy who flatters her and changes his demeanor from "macho man" to "sweet lover boy" to lure her into sex and a boy who shows sincere interest in her as a person long before "making a move" on her. Teach her that her body is HER body and not a product to be put on display. Teach her that any boy who would take notice of her ONLY when she dressed "for his pleasure" will not be willing, or even capable of showing her genuine love and affection, but is one of the brainwashed masses of boys who watches the NFL as if it were significant, bullies the "nerdy" boys and effeminates, and makes fun of "fatties" and girls he ...















    D.C, out of concern for your daughter, I will offer some words of extreme caution. It is not "SICKOS" from whom you should (or can reasonably expect to) protect your daughter, but largely blameless boys who are taught by our misogynistic culture that women are merely sex toys for men and baby making machines for the rich to use for ever-cheaper labor. Not many "sickos" target girls who are extroverted and are attempting to draw attention to themselves. "Sickos" are more statistically likely to target girls who are wallflowers, introverts, and less likely to struggle.

    By all means, monitor her clothing, but also be sure to teach her to know the difference between a boy who flatters her and changes his demeanor from "macho man" to "sweet lover boy" to lure her into sex and a boy who shows sincere interest in her as a person long before "making a move" on her. Teach her that her body is HER body and not a product to be put on display. Teach her that any boy who would take notice of her ONLY when she dressed "for his pleasure" will not be willing, or even capable of showing her genuine love and affection, but is one of the brainwashed masses of boys who watches the NFL as if it were significant, bullies the "nerdy" boys and effeminates, and makes fun of "fatties" and girls he finds unattractive. These boys are raised by this culture to HATE women as people, but have uncontrollable lust for their bodies.

    In the 21st century, largely from criminologists in Europe, where the idea of "rehabilitation" is not considered too "bleeding heart liberal" and the term "correctional institution" is more than lip service to keep attention away from the abuse and neglect of our increasingly privatized prison industry,we now KNOW definitively that rape is not a crime born out of sexual desire primarily. Rapists in therapy for their pathology report that it mattered very little whether they found their victim sexually attractive, nor were they outwardly perverse and sex-deprived loners. Indeed, most had wives and girlfriends with whom they had outwardly "normal" sexual relationships. Rapists' chief motivating impulse and selection processes center around finding a person whom they can easily control, express their dominance over, and from whom they will receive less resistance and less threat of being reported.

    As I state in another post on this thread. The greatest factor that COULD lead to a greater number of rapes perpetrated against sexually attractive victims is the prevalence among ignorant believers in MYTH who mistake the rapists' urge as chiefly sexual. This is because, though our Dirty Harry culture loves to find excuses to punish and execute people for their unchecked, sadistic, animal bloodlust, and will jump at the chance to cry out for vengeance against a man who rapes a girl in pigtails and a Hello Kitty jumpsuit, rapists know know this same sick misogynist culture considers provocative dress, such as the Bratz clothing line...

    http://www.bratz.com/en-us/se...

    not only acceptable as a money-making tool for corporate vampires like MGA Entertainment, but also as a convenient labeling instrument for hypersexualized boys to use as a means of identifying which girls they can satisfy their lust upon, while saving the Hello Kitty girl for a respectable marriage later after the Bratz girl gets her back-alley abortions made necessary by the GOP's war on women. The rapists know that a culture that blames women and girls for their own rape because of the clothes they wear will be less likely to convict or harshly punish them for raping such a person.

    SO...

    A natural result of girls dressing like whores: Unwanted pregnancy, STDs, low-self esteem (chicken/egg?), and a bad reputation, especially among women who believe they are people, not sex objects for men. The same natural results of living the life of a whore.

    A man-made result of such attire: Blame for own rape, higher likelihood of becoming viable target for rape because of ignorant myths and misplaced cultural bias, lighter sentences for their attackers because more juries will think she was "asking for it", that this was not a "legitimate rape".

    Protecting your daughter on the INSIDE by creating an environment that supports her freedom, celebrates her personhood and human dignity, and helps her discern the misogynist frat boy and date-raping jock from the sincere husband-worthy-material she'll find WITHOUT dressing like Miley Cyrus is a better strategy for keeping her safe and happy.
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  • misterz 2012/08/31 17:41:23
  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/08/31 17:36:14
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +3
    disgusting...
    rolling eyes gif
  • Lily 2012/08/31 17:25:19
    Lily
    +4
    The topic chosen to address should have been the rape, not the attire. I feel for the parents and the child and i hope justice is done. rape victims
  • Rustie 2012/08/31 17:22:21
    Rustie
    +3
    Start killing rapists and that will cut down on it more than blaming some kid who's parents didn't care what she was dressed like.
  • Mark In Irvine 2012/08/31 17:20:26 (edited)
    Mark In Irvine
    I think the Taliban and the islamo-lunatics are correct: women are evil seductresses who lust after our manly seed ... even little girls are this way: Satan knew that that little bitch Eve would do his dirty work and seduce Adam into eating the forbidden fruit, and he was right. If we didn't need females to perpetuate the human race, i'd just as soon live without them. I hate them for it, however, and feel that as a man it is my right to rape any female I choose. Inch'alla!
  • Superman 2012/08/31 17:17:54
    Superman
    +1
    This argument never ceases to amaze me because its so irresponsible.

    The suggestion that women of any age really shouldn't take into account the surroundings of where they are going or to the possibilities of what could happen dressed a certain way is absolutely not blaming the victim. Its an attempt to prevent these crimes from happening by posing responsible suggestions. No one thinks anyone deserves to be raped. But the suggestion that it can't happen, especially in certain contexts, is naive and plain dangerous.

    And the real issue here is demagoging the issue for cheap political points at the expense of the saftey of some people. Its unfortunate fact that rape happens. Its hard to anticipate and harder to prevent, especially for the government. I'd prefer to do what I can as an individual to try and prevent the rape of my daughter by suggesting different clothing, to avoid areas or to give her some method of self defense rather than having to sit back and be satsfied by the arrest trial and conviction of the people who end up doing it.

    And thats basically the suggestion here. Don't try to avoid it, don't be clever about it. It happens, oh well, let the cops and courts handle it. Thats it.
  • Scott B... Superman 2012/09/06 19:10:58
    Scott Baker
    +4
    Idiot, you are no man at all, let alone a super one.
    Your twisted and pathetic logic supports the following statement:

    "Following the attacks of 9/11, it should be clear how unwise it is to enter into any tall building, board a passenger aircraft, or work at the Pentagon."

    The girl LIVED IN THE AREA in question. She wasn't merely a victim of this rape. She and everyone living there are victims of patriarchal fascists like YOU who don't think before they hammer out their nonsense to support their right to rape little girls. Chronic poverty and the apathy toward social decay that create such zones as "the Quarters" are the fault of an economic and political system that allows the rich to benefit off of the work of the poor, yet taxes them less and less and less to provide for the education and social support needed to improve such neighborhoods.

    The thought of YOU telling others "don't avoid it, don't be clever about it" is almost worth a good laugh, but it's really a reason to cry. Paul Ryan agrees with your attitude and would force the girl to carry her baby to term if a pregnancy resulted from this gang rape. You smug, arrogant Nazis would most likely keep a copy of the cell phone recording for your personal pleasure after you hang up your klan robes at night.

    If you actually...











    Idiot, you are no man at all, let alone a super one.
    Your twisted and pathetic logic supports the following statement:

    "Following the attacks of 9/11, it should be clear how unwise it is to enter into any tall building, board a passenger aircraft, or work at the Pentagon."

    The girl LIVED IN THE AREA in question. She wasn't merely a victim of this rape. She and everyone living there are victims of patriarchal fascists like YOU who don't think before they hammer out their nonsense to support their right to rape little girls. Chronic poverty and the apathy toward social decay that create such zones as "the Quarters" are the fault of an economic and political system that allows the rich to benefit off of the work of the poor, yet taxes them less and less and less to provide for the education and social support needed to improve such neighborhoods.

    The thought of YOU telling others "don't avoid it, don't be clever about it" is almost worth a good laugh, but it's really a reason to cry. Paul Ryan agrees with your attitude and would force the girl to carry her baby to term if a pregnancy resulted from this gang rape. You smug, arrogant Nazis would most likely keep a copy of the cell phone recording for your personal pleasure after you hang up your klan robes at night.

    If you actually do have a daughter, tell her she had better not look any boys in the eye, or let her navel be seen, or speak one word to a man outside of her immediate family, lest she be taken by you to the center of town and stoned to death. If you teach her anything else, after your condescending rant, you are a hypocrite.

    Please strain what little grey matter you have to understand this:

    If the girl were dressed like a Times square hooker, flashing her ass and leering at the men and boys in that neighborhood with a "come hither" look, it would STILL be a rape. It would STILL be wrong. It would STILL be just as unacceptable.as if she had been kidnapped from her suburban bedroom like Polly Klaus before being GANG RAPED BY MORE THAN A DOZEN MEN AND BOYS UNDER THREAT OF VIOLENCE!!!

    It is OBVIOUS that attacks like this happen more often in low income areas where lack of work, lack of decent educational opportunities. and lack of adequate youth recreation programs create a milieu where unsupervised younger children mix with idle teens and even 20-somethings with time to kill and thrills to seek. It is OBVIOUS that abandoned trailers, like the abandoned tracts of suburban homes across America foreclosed upon by the BANKS, are a result of economic oppression and a system that rewards the already unfairly rewarded and punishes the already unfairly punished. To even MENTION the attire worn or the physical characteristics of or the company kept by an ELEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL as a fair context for your moralizing and patrician "tisk tisking" is patently absurd and cruel. This is not a cautionary tale worth telling. As your diatribe NEARLY suggests, it is appropriate for us to take action, as a nation, to eliminate the socio-economic imbalance that causes the creation of these "legitimate rape zones" that you feel are places where anyone who enters should be mocked and made the subject of a cautionary tale, rather than shown as an example of how low our nation has sunk.

    Certainly, the environment one is raised in, though largely created by a lack of any social responsibility on the part of the wealthy, is no excuse whatsoever for the actions of these depraved men and boys. But such malevolence is not limited to the ghetto. It thrives most powerfully at the heart of a privileged class that quotes the bible, but only those parts that support their world view, and quotes the "founding fathers", but only those words, out of context, that support their worldview, and vainly proclaims themselves the rightful inheritors of the American legacy. White collar crime, which amounts to more loss each year, dollar for dollar, than ALL street crime in any preceding DECADE, goes largely unprosecuted, unpunished and unreported. Wealthy white men travel the world to low-income areas where they buy little girls (like the victim of the crime we are talking about) for a week at a time, having their way with them, then flying back from their "business trip" to sing in their church choir. The fact that soon they will not need to board a plane to find these "exotic pleasure spots" will go completely unnoticed by the likes of "Supermen" like you. It will just be yet another place you tell your daughter to avoid and pretend you have done your duty. This is the scenario the rich want to preserve. They want to live lavishly and safely in their neighborhoods, but always have a place to "sew their wild oats" among the commoners, just down the highway. This is why economic oppression IS economic oppression, and not a matter of mere chance and superior breeding. This is our system as the wealthy intend it.

    Perhaps your solution would merely be to post signs near the area, like those in state parks, warning of the presence of wild animals in the area. Forget about what causes such environments to exist. Forget the reasons why an 11yo girl might not have adequate recreational or educational opportunities that would prevent her from hanging out with such miscreants. Stand up on your high horse and judge HER for not having the good sense to stay out of trouble....when TROUBLE is OBVIOUSLY in the atmosphere where she LIVES.

    Eat kryptonite, UberMenche. the Legion of Doom is a better friend than you.
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  • Superman Scott B... 2012/09/06 19:40:44
    Superman
    Looks like someones off their meds, have no clue what I'm talking about and is likely a sock puppet considering this is the very first post they have ...
  • Doc. J 2012/08/31 17:17:36
    Doc. J
    +7
    Lovely.
    Yeah, an 11yo is at fault for being gang raped.....

    I don't often become angry enough to have violent thoughts about a female.....But I would, in the darkest part of my heart, like to b!tch-slap her with a fence picket.
    Stupid broad...
  • james.bowman.146 2012/08/31 17:08:34
    james.bowman.146
    +2
    She never said she deserved to be raped. I think we was basically telling parents to make sure their children are dressed better. I think she is wrong, but I think you, for asking such an absurd question, are also wrong.

    Shame on you
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... james.b... 2012/08/31 17:14:29
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +7
    blame the Victim for her Clothes
    So instead of teaching these teen boys (animals) a lesson, we are gonna blame the female child because of her Clothes
  • james.b... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 17:20:03 (edited)
    james.bowman.146
    +1
    I never said blame her. I said that you took this woman's words out of context. She never defended the rapists. The boys, especially the older ones, deserve the death penalty in my mind.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... james.b... 2012/08/31 18:08:38 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    It was men over the age of 20, multiple times. I honestly think it doesn't have anything to do with what she was wearing. She was repeatedly put into a situation, or whatever the case, where she was raped. She could have worn a brown paper sack, it wouldn't have changed her getting attacked, because those men clearly had an agenda
  • james.b... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 19:47:38 (edited)
    james.bowman.146
    I don't think so either. However, claiming the congress person was defending the rapists is ridiculousness.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... james.b... 2012/08/31 19:49:30
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Her comments make her sound like she is DEFENDING THE RAPISTS

    i dont care if a woman is naked it gives nobody a right to rape her
  • james.b... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 21:30:49
    james.bowman.146
    Her opinion is that it increases the likelihood to be raped if dressed less modestly. That doesn't mean she is defending rape.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... james.b... 2012/08/31 21:36:39 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +2
    If a Man is going to Rape a Woman it doesnt matter how she is Dressed if he has the intent to rape she could be wearing a Burka and he would still Rape her Whatever her clothes are has nothing to do with the fact an 11 year old Got GANG RAPED and This Woman is Blaming the Victim because of how she was Dressed

    the Act of Rape is not about Sex but POWER men Rape for Power and Control over someone Weaker its not about the Sex its about POWER
  • james.b... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 23:43:23
    james.bowman.146
    She never blamed the victim. You are saying she blamed the victim. You don't need to explain to me what rape is.
  • Osama M... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 22:00:11
    Osama McDonalds
    I've had a similar discussion with a few different people on this issue and, it seems, there is no doubt that the main blame is on the perpetrators but there also seems to be at least some level of responsibility on the other side in some cases (but not all). It is undeniable that what you wear will have an impact on the people you come in contact with and how they might treat you. Take for instance if Caucasian guy wears a 'White Power' t-shirt and walks around an ethnic urban neighborhood for a while. He is ASKING to get assaulted but he just increased his odds 1000 fold by wearing what he sees as an ethnic pride shirt whereas some other, less ethical people from the neighborhood, will see it as an invitation to a confrontation. See where I'm coming from? No woman asks to get raped, especially an 11 year old and this story makes me sick to my stomach......but how can you dismiss the possible secondary culpability of parents who allow their pre-teens to wear jeans that show the crack of their ass with the word 'JUICY" on the back and who put on sexy-looking adult make-up and wear revealing tops? No one asks to get assaulted or raped or robbed but it doesn't help your plight if you set yourself up to be an easy target either.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Osama M... 2012/08/31 22:20:48
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +2
    Still doesnt give anyone a Right to do anything to you
    you could be wearing a T shirt that says I hate N%%%ERS and have a picture the KKK hanging a black man while laughing

    it still does not give anyone the Right to harm that person

    a Woman can dress provocatively as much as they want
    It Does not give anyone the Right to touch them

    we are Civilized people We know better If i see a sexy woman and im horny I ask her out and see about hooking up with her not Force myself on her

    not to mention this Girl was 11 years old
    they Raped a Child they are now Sex Offenders for the rest of thier lives
    the Girl will never Forget what they did to her
  • Osama M... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/08/31 22:43:46
    Osama McDonalds
    I agree, this is probably one of the saddest, most sickening rape stories I've heard in a long time...18 men and an 11 yr old girl. Damn. All those ruined lives.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Osama M... 2012/08/31 22:57:46
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    one of those men who raped the 11 year old Escaped from prison

    i hope he gets lynched and hanged
  • Scott B... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/09/06 19:39:40
    Scott Baker
    +1
    Honestly, you don't have a lot of moral ground to stand on. The term "hooking up" is a dead giveaway. Though the urge these men and boys gave into was one of power and control, and not the desire for intimacy and mutual pleasure, your attitude seems to be one that says a man should necessarily proposition any woman to whom he is physically attracted, merely because he has a sexual urge.

    I am glad you see the difference between rape and mutually agreed sexual pleasuring, but from where I stand, I see you are advocating a culture in which any urge should be satisfied, regardless of social contexts or potential consequences.

    You can "harm" someone who is in a vulnerable place in life whom you just casually "hook up" with because you can't control your desires. They may say "yes" because they are in need of intimacy and a sense of belonging, but then you would wipe off your dick and move on to your next impulse.

    "Civilized" is not how I would describe that attitude.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Scott B... 2012/09/07 01:30:08
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    sock puppet account GO AWAY and talk to me with your REAL Account

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