'In God We Trust' is gone on new coins. What do you think?
missnoee
2008/10/11 22:32:15
The government has taken it out of our new coins......so.........what do you think about it?
Top Opinion
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Yukkione "In Science We Trust" 2008/10/12 10:41:16it all spends the same+23It doesn't belong on our money as the saying doesn't represent all of us. If there are Gods I doubt they would give a shit what our money says.


















why? This is a prime example.
Now don't get me wrong! I love every one and wish everyone the best. Please understand IN GOD WE TRUST is very important! Everyone has had troublesome times in there life AND I MUST SAY IN GOD WE TRUST IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE EVEN IF IT IS ON MY MONEY!
BESIDES ATHEISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING RIGHT? SO THEY SHOULD NOT WORRY IF IN GOD W...'
Now don't get me wrong! I love every one and wish everyone the best. Please understand IN GOD WE TRUST is very important! Everyone has had troublesome times in there life AND I MUST SAY IN GOD WE TRUST IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE EVEN IF IT IS ON MY MONEY!
BESIDES ATHEISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING RIGHT? SO THEY SHOULD NOT WORRY IF IN GOD WE TRUST IS ON OUR MONEY! IF I WAS AN ATHEIST AND I WAS WRONG ABOUT MY NON BELIEFS, I WOULD BE SHIVERING IN MY BOOTS. WHEN THE CYCLE OF LIFE IS OVER WHERE WOULD MY SOUL END UP IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD? IN GOD WE TRUST SHOULD BE IN EVERY THING WE DO! AS A NATION DO WE TRUST IN GOD? DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? I HOPE SO!
HAPPY EASTER!!!!! THERE I SAID IT!
Put it back on!
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John Adams (the second President of the United States):
Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
"Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.'"
"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"
"The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
"...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
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And then there is Thomas Jefferson (the third P...
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John Adams (the second President of the United States):
Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
"Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.'"
"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"
"The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
"...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
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And then there is Thomas Jefferson (the third President of the United States)
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."
"...an amendment was proposed by inserting the words, 'Jesus Christ...the holy author of our religion,' which was rejected 'By a great majority in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and the Infidel of every denomination.'"
"Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than on our opinions in physics and geometry....The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
"Reason and persuasion are the only practicable instruments. To make way for these free inquiry must be indulged; how can we wish others to indulge it while we refuse ourselves? But every state, says an inquisitor, has established some religion. No two, say I, have established the same. Is this a proof of the infallibility of establishments?"
"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."
"In every country and in every age the priest has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear....Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it end in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue on the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of others which it will procure for you."
"Christianity...[has become] the most perverted system that ever shone on man....Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and imposters led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."
"...that our civil rights have no dependence on religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics and geometry."
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And this guy: James Madison (the fourth President of the United States)
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise....During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."
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Benjamin Franklin
"My parents had given me betimes religious impressions, and I received from my infancy a pious education in the principles of Calvinism. But scarcely was I arrived at fifteen years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of different tenets, according as I found them combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself."
"...Some books against Deism fell into my hands....It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quote to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations, in short, I soon became a thorough Deist."
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Thomas Paine
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all."
"All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
"The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion."
"What is it the Bible teaches us? -- rapine, cruelty, and murder."
"Loving of enemies is another dogma of feigned morality, and has beside no meaning....Those who preach the doctrine of loving their enemies are in general the greatest prosecutors, and they act consistently by so doing; for the doctrine is hypocritical, and it is natural that hypocrisy should act the reverse of what it preaches."
"The Bible was established altogether by the sword, and that in the worst use of it -- not to terrify but to extirpate."
"It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."
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Ethan Allen
"Denominated a Deist, the reality of which I have never disputed, being conscious that I am no Christian."
The internet is a magnificent resource. You can find all the facts in the world if you desire (but even the information found on the internet must come from a reputable source). Disinformation was blatantly obvious on both sides of the recent election (and is true of most elections) people listen for the words they want to hear – either to like their favorite candidate or despise the opposition, without ever bothering to find the truth.
Sure, health care can be free for everyone. I guess that is because doctors are going to start working for free and hospitals will no longer be interested in making any money. Oh, and lawyers are going to stop filing malpractice suits. And Sure, you can give everyone a $5000 refund to find their own insurance because the second you do there is no way the insurance companies won’t raise their rates knowing there is tens of billions of dollars out there to b...
The internet is a magnificent resource. You can find all the facts in the world if you desire (but even the information found on the internet must come from a reputable source). Disinformation was blatantly obvious on both sides of the recent election (and is true of most elections) people listen for the words they want to hear – either to like their favorite candidate or despise the opposition, without ever bothering to find the truth.
Sure, health care can be free for everyone. I guess that is because doctors are going to start working for free and hospitals will no longer be interested in making any money. Oh, and lawyers are going to stop filing malpractice suits. And Sure, you can give everyone a $5000 refund to find their own insurance because the second you do there is no way the insurance companies won’t raise their rates knowing there is tens of billions of dollars out there to be had. Neither side is a rational solution, but people believe what they want to believe.
It is humorous that many of you find money inherently evil. It is nothing more than a medium of exchange. There is no question that what people do with it is sometimes very evil, but it is often times very good (Bill Gates donating billions). And it is important what is written on it because it is traded all over the world and represents our country. So the question is should God be on it?
Well, apparently many of you think that belief in God means you are Christian. Don’t the Jewish people believe in God? Or any of the other many religions in the world? They may not call him or her “God” but almost every religion does believe in a higher power. Even the “Christian” God believes in other Gods “…there shall be no other Gods before me...” He even made it his first commandment – so there must be a lot of competition out there. The competition not always being other gods, but stuff people believe in instead of God.
Weather you believe in God or not, you cannot deny the fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans do believe in a God. And you also cannot deny the fact that God was an influence throughout the formation of this great country. God is mentioned just about everywhere, and contrary to some of the postings here, God was included in the National Anthem (check the rest of the versus, there are more than one).
And finally, there are some who so boldly claim that times have changed and they now know more than our founding fathers. Slavery is quickly brought up. While not morally correct, slavery was commonplace throughout the world at the time. There were many things in history that were found to be commonplace, but are now seen as unthinkable (Belief in God not being one of them). If you will read your history you will find that many of our founding fathers did oppose slavery and tried to include that in the Declaration of Independence. There were many forces working against such wording, but eventually this notion did prevail. There are some changes that must be made throughout time, and those men (and the women that supported them…they weren’t alone) who formed this country knew that and allowed for that. It is those changes that allowed God to be on our currency in the first place. It is a wonder to me why so many of you would be so quick to question the judgment of our forefathers and strive to have God removed from government entirely.
And before you say “separation of church and state” – Thomas Jefferson, the guy that brought it up and coined the phrase – did it to protect religion, not the government. He said that there should be no laws governing religion and that the government should not inhibit anyone’s practice of religion. But no where does it say, or even imply, that religion should not be embraced by the government.
it reallz doesnt make a difference its on there or not.
The rights of the non-believer and the rights of the believer should be equal.