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Illegal immigration may threaten health care bill

- The illegal immigration issue is emerging as the biggest threat to passing healthcare reform in the House.

Congressional Hispanics have threatened to vote against the bill because of a last-minute threat from within the Democratic Caucus to bolster the House bill’s immigration restrictions to match those included in the Senate Finance bill.

And they’re also fighting President Barack Obama, the original sponsor of the language prohibiting illegal immigrants from accessing the public health insurance exchange.... Read full article »
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  • +10 raves Hebertprime November 06, 2009 22:23:01
    Hebertprime
    Wow!
    Hispanic legislators wanting health-care for illegal aliens.
    There is absolutely no conflict of interest there!
    No sir!

    Here's a thought.
    Lets get rid of ALL these SOBs.
    Just an idea.
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  • Franklin November 07, 2009 15:02:12
    Franklin
    Hispanics (as if Spanish half breed is a race) hate America (its a fact ask any Spanish speaker and they will say this is NOT my country) but they love our $$$ and they vote Democrat . The DNC owes every victory it has ever had to Illegals , and will always pander to them as it is where they get the support they need to over come the desire of actual citizens to be moderate in their views of government.
    Any bill passed by this administration will give a free pass on all laws to illegals and will find a way to cover them ahead of every one els.
  • Velanarris November 07, 2009 13:17:40
    Velanarris
    The rise of American xenophobia is closely correlated with over spending and a President and Congress who have an inability to focus on real domestic issues while bandying about the world.

    Happened in the late 00's, happened in the late 40's, happened in the late 70's, and now it's happening in the late 00's again.
  • +1 raves
    Franklin Velanarris November 07, 2009 14:47:20
    Franklin
    Just because its historical does not change the fact that its accurate. Illegals are a very real drain on our welfare systems both federal and local , and as citizens are being asked to suffer they will question why they must make sacrifices es to pay for others who do not even belonged to this system (don't even get me started on Open hatred of America by Latinos thats a whole other thing)
  • Velanarris Franklin November 07, 2009 17:55:02
    Velanarris
    Oh I'm not disagreeing.

    I'm saying it's cyclical. One group of extremists or the other takes hold and opens the flood gates adding additional people to the society. The society must grow to make up for the extra people but, it seldom does. The same group that threw open the flood gates goes looking for more resources to grow the society and conflict with other societies ensues leading to war and a die off of the population of both groups so the society maintains itself through death. Examples are the US civil war. Then WW1 where blacks started getting jobs since so many Americans had died. Then WW2 where we lost a ton of young men so now women enter the workplace. Then vietnam, which blacks then received a far greater array of rights due to the deaths of so many young men. Society at that time grows to suit the needs of it's residents, and integration ensues. Society grows.

    The other way this can pan out is the development of social programs. The problem is social programs don't promote the growth of society. They're a bandaid. Eventually the society breaks down and becomes almost entirely made of social programs. For example, the TVA after the great depression followed by prohibition and a great increase in taxation, and don't forget our current time of legislation. Socie...





    Oh I'm not disagreeing.

    I'm saying it's cyclical. One group of extremists or the other takes hold and opens the flood gates adding additional people to the society. The society must grow to make up for the extra people but, it seldom does. The same group that threw open the flood gates goes looking for more resources to grow the society and conflict with other societies ensues leading to war and a die off of the population of both groups so the society maintains itself through death. Examples are the US civil war. Then WW1 where blacks started getting jobs since so many Americans had died. Then WW2 where we lost a ton of young men so now women enter the workplace. Then vietnam, which blacks then received a far greater array of rights due to the deaths of so many young men. Society at that time grows to suit the needs of it's residents, and integration ensues. Society grows.

    The other way this can pan out is the development of social programs. The problem is social programs don't promote the growth of society. They're a bandaid. Eventually the society breaks down and becomes almost entirely made of social programs. For example, the TVA after the great depression followed by prohibition and a great increase in taxation, and don't forget our current time of legislation. Society eventually dies and must be remade.

    In our current day and age, we're too concerned with the protection of people that we breed these monsters among us. We invoke hatred and prevent integration. Socialism is the least social of resource distribution methods.

    We need to stop blaming immigrants and start integrating them into our society properly. The way we do that is by setting a wage law for immigrants. If you force all companies doing business in the US, and all citizens to pay illegal help the same wage and benefits as they must pay Americans, then many companies would simply hire people based on their merits. Illegals would be on the tax roll call, and those Americans among us who really do get screwed by illegals would have a level playing field. This would serve to keep America great as now the people living here would be paid what their work is worth and immigrants would be more inclined to engage in wokring for a better life, as they say they aim to do. Start removing these social programs and incentivize people to work.

    Grow the society.
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  • LisaSmith November 07, 2009 07:13:53
    LisaSmith
    What the hell is wrong with those idiots in the government. I can't believe these people are in charge of our country. It's as if they do the exact opposite of what most people want. I have never been more disgusted with my government. I can only hope there are some major changes in 2010 and the new people we elect understand it is best if they don't piss us off. I hope the the other half of the Americans wake up and figure out what the hell is going on before it is to late.
  • y so serious November 07, 2009 06:21:04
    y so serious
    This is too funny
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    Andrea November 07, 2009 06:13:16
    Andrea
    Read my lips: if you are ILLEGAL, you do NOT get to take advantage of MY tax money to pay for YOUR health care. Take your illegal ass back home. All these damn Hispanics fighting to give my money to a bunch of illegals should be tossed out of office. They are probably illegal too.

    NO more anchor babying and accepting illegals. Get them out of here and our economy will improve.
  • +1 raves
    jimmy Andrea November 07, 2009 16:33:57
    jimmy
    i totally agree ship there asses back to mexico and who ever supports them they can go with them.
  • govout November 07, 2009 04:30:19
    govout
    I hope it does!
  • +1 raves
    johnnyboy November 07, 2009 04:13:35
    johnnyboy
    sobs have ruined my trade here in san diego. Watched it explode just in last 10 yrs.
  • +2 raves
    airraid81 November 07, 2009 02:29:11
    airraid81
    Illegal immigration may threaten other aspects of America, too.
  • +4 raves
    marcuss November 07, 2009 02:02:34
    marcuss
    the american taxpayer should pay for the health care for the entire planet.

    americans are so greedy...........satire.
  • +4 raves
    beachbum November 07, 2009 01:21:56
    beachbum
    Key word - 'ILLEGAL'.......
  • +6 raves
    Marty9957 November 07, 2009 00:57:10
    Marty9957
    No legislation with health care for illegals should even be considered. We are having problems taking care of our own here in the united States and the Democrats in the CHC are determined to try to strong arm the White House into including them in a bill we can't afford. What the CHC has to realize is that these illegals don't vote and if they are, ICE needs to get on the ball and round them up and prosecute them and those responsible for facilitating their voting. I think Congress needs to do away with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the Congressional Black Caucus and any other special interest group affecting legislation in ways not in the best interest on the nation as a whole. We don't need this.
  • +4 / -3 raves
    Terry J Vey November 07, 2009 00:41:38
    Terry J Vey
    These filthy BASTARDS SHOULD BE SHOT DEAD ON SITE!DON'T LIKE MY OPINION FINE
  • +1 raves
    jimmy Terry J... November 07, 2009 16:36:01
    jimmy
    if we start shooting the sob's when they come across the border you'll see a lot of less of them.
  • +5 raves
    Melanie November 07, 2009 00:22:10
    Melanie
    Geez there's a shocker! They don't belong in our country yet they threaten the healthcare reform. What is wrong with this picture.
  • +5 raves
    paul maloney November 07, 2009 00:11:53
    paul maloney
    How many in the congress and senate have actual intelligence. Lets see, the country is broke,unemployment is actually 20%plus,the bill is strategically designed for control, the evil teleprompter spews anti-american propaganda, there is no recovery so lets close the deal and tax them into the nearest black hole. If that makes any sense then your probably a marxist.I'm certain there is intelligent life out there, somewhere?
  • +6 raves
    Dan November 06, 2009 23:41:04 (edited)
    Dan
    NO "free" (paid for by taxpayers, NOT by Obama the generous hypocrite) socialist health care for ANYONE who is NOT truly handicapped (physically, mentally, or too elderly to work).

    NO "free" (paid for by taxpayers, NOT by Obama the generous hypocrite) socialist health care for the millions of irresponsible Obama-voters who have seen everyone from their grandmama to mama to their siblings to their illegitimate children on the eternal (neverending, social security destroying) welfare/food stamp program!!!

    NO "free" (paid for by taxpayers, NOT by Obama the generous hypocrite) socialist health care for the damned 13.2 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! NONE!!! You "Amigos" already shut down 261 hospitals across the US (71 in California alone) because of your unwelcomed and criminal intrusion/invasion of the United States! NO! NONE!, NADA!!! Comprende?!?
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    Conservative in California November 06, 2009 23:16:03
    Conservative in California
    Q: How can Congressional Democrats make socialized healthcare even more undesirable to the American People than it already is?

    A: Not only raise everyone's taxes, decrease quality, include waiting lists, and death panels, but guarantee that illegal immigrants get free healthcare paid for by hard working Americans while our current deficit is at $2 trillion.

    Do Democrats ever consider how much Americans hate socialism AND rewarding illegal immigrants for breaking the law?

    Sure, combine the two most unAmerican features of the bill and wonder why Americans are flat dead out opposed to the plan: Socialism and ignoring the rule of law.

    DEAD ON ARRIVAL by the American People.
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