If your father robs a bank, should you go to jail?
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2012/06/15 18:23:31
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Today President Obama announced a program to grant temporary visas (lasting only two years) to those people who are not legally in this country who entered this country before they were 16 years old, who are not yet 30 years old, and who have committed no crimes. These are people who were carried across our border (and who unquestionably did not have a legal right to be here) and never made a choice to violate the laws of this nation. These are people who have lived their entire lives in this country, who have contributed to our society, many of whom have served in our nation's military service. Yet the Right Wing wants to treat them as criminals. These people will not be able to stay permanently, will not have any right of a "path to citizenship", and certainly will not have a right to vote (despite the claims of nutjob Allen West).
So the question above seems quite relevant. If your father (or mother) committed an illegal act that you had nothing to do with, should you be prosecuted for their actions?
So the question above seems quite relevant. If your father (or mother) committed an illegal act that you had nothing to do with, should you be prosecuted for their actions?
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Rogue_Loner 2012/06/15 18:43:25
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...Our President's logic! God help us!
How does anybody who is illegal serve in our military????? My brother is an American
and served in the Marines,he is 63 years old and he is having a hell of a time trying to get his drivers license,,,because of some glitch in a date they won't renew his drivers license.he has to have three pieces of Id and some other papers to show who he is.
Now talk about fair???? WTH.
It makes no sense to me, would some one like to explain.
http://www.history.navy.mil/l...
Second, I didn't say they could only stay for two years. The way it will work is that they will be granted a two year visa, at the end of which they can either apply to renew it or leave the country. Renewal is not automatic, so if they are convicted of a crime or something they would have to leave (and we would know where they are so they actually do leave). But if they demonstrate that they are no "threat to the community" they might be allowed to stay on.
Third, the program would have no effect whatsoever on the immigration status of their parents or anyone else. If the parents are still around and they are here illegally they would still be here illegally. And, there's absolutely nothing in the proposal that makes it any easier for anyone here illegally to one day become a citizen.
Fourth, there's no additional cost of any significance. If you honestly think that a few more forms amidst the tons of paperwork that Washington already generates is going to break our economy, then I think you're incorrect. Considering that most of these people have been here their ent...
Second, I didn't say they could only stay for two years. The way it will work is that they will be granted a two year visa, at the end of which they can either apply to renew it or leave the country. Renewal is not automatic, so if they are convicted of a crime or something they would have to leave (and we would know where they are so they actually do leave). But if they demonstrate that they are no "threat to the community" they might be allowed to stay on.
Third, the program would have no effect whatsoever on the immigration status of their parents or anyone else. If the parents are still around and they are here illegally they would still be here illegally. And, there's absolutely nothing in the proposal that makes it any easier for anyone here illegally to one day become a citizen.
Fourth, there's no additional cost of any significance. If you honestly think that a few more forms amidst the tons of paperwork that Washington already generates is going to break our economy, then I think you're incorrect. Considering that most of these people have been here their entire lives, I doubt that many translators (who we already have) would be needed. And as for "legwork costs", it will actually SAVE money because for the next two years at least, all the people who were looking for them before can spend their time looking for other illegals instead.
Finally, it's just the right thing to do, in my opinion. Suppose you're 18 years old right now, and all your life you were told that you were born right in downtown Tampa. Tomorrow you find out that your parents lied to you (to protect you, of course) and it turns out that you were really born outside the country and they smuggled you in here when you were two years old. When they come to take you away from the only home you've ever known and force you to go to a country that you've never been to (since you were two, anyway) where you don't speak the language and know nothing about the culture. Does that sound fair to you?
I DON'T mean to imply that this is the case for everyone that would be affected by this new move. But it illustrates, for me at least, why we should support it.
These people all benefit for something they had nothing to do with. .