If you suppress voting, does that mean you don't believe in democracy?

by flaca BN-0 Posted 2012/08/19 02:10:58

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JP 2012/08/22 20:30:13

Sure does. Every illegitimate vote that is counted suppresses a valid, lawful vote.

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Wag 2012/08/22 19:20:00

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The RWNJs have thier own version of Democracy.....It looks alot like dictatorship but with a bonnet on it....

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Wag 2012/08/22 19:09:52

The republinuts are pushing thier own agenda behinfd the word democracy.....this is just another version of the Bush/Gore ordeal....just sad

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EdVenture 2012/08/19 16:40:45

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Yes, the problem and distorted thinking is that the GOP think that suppressing democratic and ethnic vote is patriotic and more important than the will of the people.

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James 2012/08/19 15:31:04
Lefty 2012/08/19 14:32:21

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That seems to be the case, even in Massachusetts;

Galvin Calls Voter Fraud Allegations 'Pretty Extreme'

By Sarah Birnbaum

Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin said he is taking over all election-related activities from the clerk's office in the Western Massachusetts town of East Longmeadow. The move follows allegations of widespread voter fraud.

Galvin will strip oversight from the town clerk and send an election monitor to oversee all voting in East Longmeadow on primary day, which is Sept. 6. “My concern is going forward to make sure the election is properly administered to protect the integrity of the election but also the rights of voters,” he said.

Galvin said an employee in the town clerk’s office allegedly changed the party affiliation of hundreds of registered voters from Democrat to Republican without their knowledge, and then cast absentee ballots on their behalf.

“There was effort here to steal voters' identities by enrolling them in different political parties and then applying for absentee ballots for them. This is like identity theft in a financial context. This is just as bad if not worse because people are trying to steal an election. The objective here was to cast fraudulent ballots. That’s pretty extreme,” he said.

Republican Jack V...

That seems to be the case, even in Massachusetts;

Galvin Calls Voter Fraud Allegations 'Pretty Extreme'

By Sarah Birnbaum

Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin said he is taking over all election-related activities from the clerk's office in the Western Massachusetts town of East Longmeadow. The move follows allegations of widespread voter fraud.

Galvin will strip oversight from the town clerk and send an election monitor to oversee all voting in East Longmeadow on primary day, which is Sept. 6. “My concern is going forward to make sure the election is properly administered to protect the integrity of the election but also the rights of voters,” he said.

Galvin said an employee in the town clerk’s office allegedly changed the party affiliation of hundreds of registered voters from Democrat to Republican without their knowledge, and then cast absentee ballots on their behalf.

“There was effort here to steal voters' identities by enrolling them in different political parties and then applying for absentee ballots for them. This is like identity theft in a financial context. This is just as bad if not worse because people are trying to steal an election. The objective here was to cast fraudulent ballots. That’s pretty extreme,” he said.

Republican Jack Villamaino is locked in a tight primary race for state representative. According to the Boston Globe, a friend of Villamaino’s who works in the East Longmeadow town clerk’s office is suspected of having changed the registrations in the office computers after work hours.

Galvin said state officials were tipped off to the voter fraud when hundreds of residents in the town suddenly changed party registration.

"In Massachusetts every local clerk’s office can only make changes in party enrollment through our central voter registry. That is to say every clerk’s office is assigned a user code and there’s a central voter registry. We were able to go into the central user registry and document what appeared to be unusual irregular activity," he said.

Galvin's office sent letters asking those voters to confirm that they had authorized these party changes. "They responded of course they had not, nor had they requested any absentee ballots. At that point we knew we had a problem."

The case has been referred to the Hampden County district attorney.
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Wag to Lefty 2012/08/22 19:13:32

In mich its a fiasco too, I am so surprised of the amount of voter fraud we have never heard of untill this election...

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Lefty to Wag 2012/08/23 11:06:02

Should have paid attention in 2000.

Gave the election to Bush, due to the Florida voter fraud, with so-called hanging chads.

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Idiot repubs 2012/08/19 13:18:43

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It means you don't have what Americans want.

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VoteOut 2012/08/19 10:57:41

Pure democracy is suppression which is why America try to have a republic.

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Fariborz-Zak 2012/08/19 06:34:05

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yes

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sjalan 2012/08/19 05:41:38

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Yep and the Republican/Tea Party is doing everything they can to act on their fascist protocols to achieve the disenfranchisement of as many US citizens from voting as possible.

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Walt 2012/08/19 05:39:46

If those whose votes are suppressed are those who are ineligible to vote to begin with, the sanctity of the vote is being preserved. (Foreigners who are legally ineligible to vote have no business setting foot in our polling stations.)

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gary 2012/08/19 04:47:03
Idiot r... to gary 2012/08/19 13:20:05

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LIar.
Florida's Republican Gov. Rick Scott recently signed a law that requires new voters to submit completed registration forms within 48 hours from the minute they fill them out, causing new voter registration to plummet by twenty percent. The law is intended to limit rampant voter fraud, as Daily Show correspondent John Oliver explained last night to Jon Stewart: "Sacrificing twenty percent of new voter participation is nothing compared to the horrors of voter fraud, which, according to the Brennan Center for Justice, happens at a terrifying rate of 0.0004 percent."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/p...

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gary to Idiot r... 2012/08/19 13:48:08
Idiot r... to gary 2012/08/19 18:04:13

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You can't even spell and you want to decide who's eligible to vote, when there is no problem?

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Wag to gary 2012/08/22 19:16:51

I don't think I have ever heard a figure like 13 million before. But to win an argument thats a good figure to throw out there,

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luvguins 2012/08/19 04:17:24

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Republicans believe in winning by any means or any dirty tricks they can devise.

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boss hawg 2012/08/19 04:09:10

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they don't want democracy. they want totalitarianism

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Space Invader 2012/08/19 02:32:19

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no; it means; illegal; undocumented workers; animals, and the dead won't be voting democratic again this time around

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flaca BN-0 to Space I... 2012/08/19 03:42:14

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wasn't the total reported fake voters like ten people? there is no widespread voter fraud, and some republican govs are on video admitting it. So the fact is there is no reason for ID changes. It's a testement to the fact that Repubs don't think people will vote for them so they lie and cheat and suppress the vote. Why would you want to suppress the vote, unless you knew that most people won't vote for you?

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Sgt Maj... to flaca BN-0 2012/08/19 03:52:10

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Peruse at your leisure....

http://www.timesunion.com/loc...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://www.prnewswire.com/new...
http://www.seattlepi.com/loca...
http://www.statesattorney.org...
http://sweetness-light.com/ar...
http://www.komonews.com/news/...
http://findarticles.com/p/art...
http://www.rottenacorn.com/ac...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://valdostadailytimes.com...
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://www.clickondetroit.com...

Peruse at your leisure....

http://www.timesunion.com/loc...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://www.prnewswire.com/new...
http://www.seattlepi.com/loca...
http://www.statesattorney.org...
http://sweetness-light.com/ar...
http://www.komonews.com/news/...
http://findarticles.com/p/art...
http://www.rottenacorn.com/ac...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://dailycaller.com/2011/0...
http://valdostadailytimes.com...
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16...
http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
http://www.clickondetroit.com...
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flaca BN-0 to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 03:59:55

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there are videos of republican governors being asked if they have widespread voter fraud in their states admitting that they don't.

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Sgt Maj... to flaca BN-0 2012/08/19 04:06:41

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Right.... and the moon's made of green cheese. Try actually reading the links I provided. Feel free to provide documentation for your claim.

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luvguins to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 04:26:52

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Sgt Maj... to luvguins 2012/08/19 04:30:04

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This propaganda piece is your best effort?? To you, this drivel is credible?? Spare me your stupidity.

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luvguins to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 05:24:01

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More credible than what Republicans are doing with voter suppression.

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luvguins to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 04:21:11

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Fox News and the Daily Caller? LMAO. What would you expect them to say?

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Sgt Maj... to luvguins 2012/08/19 04:25:30

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Laugh your ass off all you want. it's a simple case of mind over matter: I don't mind and I've never met a liberal that mattered. Add something worthwhile to the debate or feel free to shut up.

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luvguins to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 05:28:11

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Wrong. I'm a registered independent, old man. You lose.

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Sgt Maj... to luvguins 2012/08/19 14:59:08

Everyone I've ever met that claimed to be a 'registered independent' was a damned liar. They were just left-wing drones tired of being painted with the label "Liberal".

Based on many of your previous screeds, I've always thought you were a loon, but now I'm convinced you're an even bigger fool than I originally thought.

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luvguins to Sgt Maj... 2012/08/19 15:14:47

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Typical lying conservative aren't you?

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Al B Thayer 2012/08/19 02:14:40

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How would someone suppress voting?

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flaca BN-0 to Al B Th... 2012/08/19 04:00:33

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try to keep up with the news for goodness sake.

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Al B Th... to flaca BN-0 2012/08/19 04:24:06

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Try to pose a question without the assumption tied to it that requires us to be brain dead to believe the premise.

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Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/08/19 02:12:52

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Maybe that person might believe in the Roman type of democracy where only an elite few can vote or have rights.

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gregory.ditzler 2012/08/19 02:12:11

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Yes, the republican party is a fascist party not a democratic party.

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Al B Th... to gregory... 2012/08/19 02:20:29

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Oh well we're glad you brought that to our attention. I always wondered why they wanted smaller government and less taxes. You know like giving choices back to the people and States rights. Sure they're fascists.

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Space I... to Al B Th... 2012/08/19 02:33:05

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good one!!

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