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If the United States of America is Dying, What is Her Ailment and Can it be Cured?!

Andrew 2011/05/28 23:44:43
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What is the infirmity that seems to be inflicting our nation?! I am becoming increasingly concerned with the health of our nation and what it is that is causing her demise! I have my opinion of what is the cause and I will give an analogy that might be helpful in trouble shooting what is going on!

First, is she being Murdered? In other words, is some outside enemy doing the dirty deed? Is militant Islam or some country gunning for us and succeeding?! Is it the UN perhaps? Are we being murdered?

Secondly, is this some bacterial contamination from the outside that is now incubating within our country?! Did somehow some such infection enter the body that needs to eradicated?! Do we have the antibiotics to combat and save this country?!

Thirdly, have we contracted a virus, that although we might be able to control it, will be with us, always threatening an outbreak?!

Do we have a cancer that has matasticized and is growing out of control?! Must it be surgically removed or can it be treated with chemo or radiation?! Perhaps diet alone might eradicate the undesirable cells?!

Lastly, are we committing national suicide?! Has someone convinced us that existence is pointless and that we are not worthy to exist anymore?! That other nations are better than us and other ways better than ours?! The only way to right all the wrongs that we have "committed" is to end the experiment here and now!

Give me your thoughts and analysis! Which of these fits the bill the best? Or maybe some or all in combination?!
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  • Fallschirmjager 2011/06/03 15:32:50
    Murder!!!
    Fallschirmjager
    +1
    It can be fixed.

    Imagine a USA with NO Libtards, Mooselimbs or illegal invaders.
  • Andrew Fallsch... 2011/06/03 17:37:01
    Andrew
    The first two we must tolerate, but we must free ourselves from an education system that forces our children to be indoctrinated into liberalism and a false sense of "tolerance". The illegal issue needs to be addressed firmly so we DON'T tolerate it at all!
  • Fallsch... Andrew 2011/06/04 14:52:46
    Fallschirmjager
    Why? Why must we tolerate Mooselimbs?

    They need to be hunted down where they live.

    RIGHT NOW, they are setting up their infrastructure in places like Michigan and elsewhere.

    THEY do NOT use innuendo. They say right to our faces that they hate us, and our great Anglo culture. They openly preach "Kill or Convert". There are "Honor" killings going on right here in our nation. They have camps right here in the USA, training for violent Jihad.

    NO.

    ALL Mooselimbs and Illegal Invaders, GET OUT OF THE U.S.A.!!!
  • Andrew Fallsch... 2011/06/04 15:51:40
    Andrew
    Let me qualify my statement by saying that all Muslims that are here on a Visa should be sent home to their native land. In this age of militant islamic terrorism, we need to face realistically the enemy and deal with them as an enemy. But, any Muslim that is a citizen is entitled to all the Constitutional freedoms and protections as you and me.
  • Fallsch... Andrew 2011/06/04 19:45:30
    Fallschirmjager
    THEY USE the LAW, of WEAK LIBERAL societies, for their benefit.

    Round them ALL up, and send them packing.
  • Andrew Fallsch... 2011/06/04 22:54:40
    Andrew
    That is impossible, but I agree that the Islamic faith is more political ideology than religion. However, if we discriminate based on faith for one individual, we open the door for ALL others. If you disagree as vehemently with the Muslim faith as I do, get busy spreading and teaching the true faith.
  • Sabba 2011/05/30 18:31:30
    Viral Infection!!
    Sabba
    +2
    We are infected by the LWNJ's and they don't care if America goes down the tubes.
  • Andrew Sabba 2011/05/30 19:26:04
    Andrew
    +1
    Then we sane people need to so overwhelm the LWNJ's that there will be absolutely NO WAY for them to steal ANY election as I believe Harry Reid did in Nevada!
  • Sabba Andrew 2011/06/01 20:20:10
    Sabba
    +1
    I am ready!!!!!!!! I WILL BE OUT THERE WORKING FOR THE GOOD OF THE US.
  • Andrew Sabba 2011/06/01 21:02:29
    Andrew
    +1
    Great! Work at recruiting as many as you can to OUR cause! We are actually going save the hides of the Regressives who are opposing us!
  • WOJO 2011/05/30 16:43:01
    Cancer!!
    WOJO
    +1
    It's spreading from Washington to all the states by the vote of 2008! 2012 vote will cure it by disinfecting the White House.
  • Andrew WOJO 2011/05/30 16:48:11
    Andrew
    +1
    That will be a good start!
  • Morgan Orlins 2011/05/30 11:08:04 (edited)
    Suicide!!
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    We are STILL commiting national suicide. It's an infection of the heart, of the mind, and the spirit; and it started in the 1960's. That's when moral and cultural relativism took ahold of American civilization and shook it HARD, and it loosened our foundations.

    The culture of the political left is assailing everything that is good about our common Judeo-Christian moral tradition. It's a full frontal assault on reason, logic, freedom, and responsibility that begins in the government schools, is manifested in pop culture, and is amplified at the college level.

    The brilliant writer and fearless conservative lecturer, David Horowitz, wrote about this war against our culture in his book, "The Destructive Generation." If you want to know what's happening to America, PICK UP THIS BOOK!

    http://archive.frontpagemag.c...

    (from the article)

    ---We wrote Destructive Generation in the mid-Eighties because of the way that Sixties radicalism was continuing to influence how America thought and felt twenty years after the fact. Today, another twenty years further on, the Sixties is still the undead decade. Far from being yesterday’s news, as it should be, it is still the white sound of our intellectual life, decanting its poisonous old wine into new bottles, fomenting our culture wars...



    We are STILL commiting national suicide. It's an infection of the heart, of the mind, and the spirit; and it started in the 1960's. That's when moral and cultural relativism took ahold of American civilization and shook it HARD, and it loosened our foundations.

    The culture of the political left is assailing everything that is good about our common Judeo-Christian moral tradition. It's a full frontal assault on reason, logic, freedom, and responsibility that begins in the government schools, is manifested in pop culture, and is amplified at the college level.

    The brilliant writer and fearless conservative lecturer, David Horowitz, wrote about this war against our culture in his book, "The Destructive Generation." If you want to know what's happening to America, PICK UP THIS BOOK!

    http://archive.frontpagemag.c...

    (from the article)

    ---We wrote Destructive Generation in the mid-Eighties because of the way that Sixties radicalism was continuing to influence how America thought and felt twenty years after the fact. Today, another twenty years further on, the Sixties is still the undead decade. Far from being yesterday’s news, as it should be, it is still the white sound of our intellectual life, decanting its poisonous old wine into new bottles, fomenting our culture wars, and picking the scabs off the angry social wounds that have been with us now for a generation. A new edition of this book, which some commentators have been kind enough to refer to as a “classic,” seems entirely appropriate.

    How deeply are we still haunted by this radical decade and all its clanking ghosts? Consider the 2004 elections, when America seemed to be time-warped in a grotesque Sixties encore. The country was once again involved in a controversial war. Radical armies of the night—less puissant, perhaps, than those forty years earlier, but more open in their anti-Americanism—were in the streets again. The old Marxoid vulgarities about American policy being dominated by American economic interests had returned with a new and stricter formulation: No Blood for Oil. The flip side of the Sixties Left’s heroization of tyrants such as Mao and Ho Chi Minh had reappeared in the assertions that George W. Bush represented a greater danger to humanity than the genocidal Saddam Hussein. Sixties veterans such as Noam Chomsky recycled the intellectual nihilism of the prior era when they charged that 9/11 was just payback for America’s historical crimes. Sixties wannabes such as Michael Moore rediscovered the moral imbecility of the era when they compared Iraqi beheaders to the Minutemen of the American Revolution......

    .....This book was necessary, we thought back in the mid-1980s, because our old comrades, instead of allowing the time of their lives to fade into the national historical newsreel, were intent on mythologizing the Sixties (and themselves) in a way that not only evaded but intentionally clouded the truth. This was more than a narcissistic desire to make the era into a left-wing version of Camelot; these mythmakers and nostalgia artists wanted to make the Movement’s “principles”—loathing for America’s power and revisionist contempt for its history—into a blueprint, an intellectual template that could be forced onto the country in the future even though their own brief moment on America’s center stage had ended in failure. We wanted to show what the era had really been all about—how those (including ourselves) who had dictated the agenda of the New Left had slid into an easy contempt for America some time during the Sixties and how this contempt had become the torch that lit their way into the future. We also wanted to show how, under the sway of a utopian fantasy of “social justice,” they (we) had laid siege to the values, institutions, styles and traditions that had made up the natural order of things in America for their parents and their parents’ parents....(click link above to continue article)
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  • Andrew Morgan ... 2011/05/30 11:21:32
    Andrew
    +1
    Thank you, Morgan and thank you, David Horowitz!
  • Morgan ... Andrew 2011/05/30 12:09:05
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    Any time Andrew! Thank YOU for the thoughtful thread, they seem as common as bigfoot sightings here at SH. I consider David to be a friend. We've e-mailed over the years, and he's a FEARLESS warrior for western cvilization and the American way. He's taken on Islamofascism and "progressives" tirelessly in the last 25 years. God bless and keep David Horowitz!!
  • Andrew Morgan ... 2011/05/30 12:17:03
    Andrew
    +1
    David is also a reformed 60's radical who was converted to conservatism by the hypocrisy of the Regressive left! Their abandonment of the South Vietnamese after the fall was the tipping point!
  • Morgan ... Andrew 2011/05/30 12:20:55
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    Actually, I think the tipping point was the rape and murder of his good friend Betty Van Patter (I think that's her name) by the Black Panthers. They totally got away with it, and it infuriated Dave because he and Betty worked for the Panthers. Yep, he has HAD IT with the looney left!
  • jesse 2011/05/29 21:14:48
    Murder!!!
    jesse
    +1
    Her cancer is the Fed Reserve Banks!
    Our whole national debt is owed to the Fed!
    http://www.jesus-is-savior.co...
  • Andrew jesse 2011/05/30 02:02:09
    Andrew
    +1
    That's another anti-American institution that needs investigation!
  • Morgan ... Andrew 2011/05/30 11:28:45
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    Yes, it needs to be investigated and audited, but NOT eliminated. The problem with the fed is a political problem, and it starts in the White House.
  • Karen E 2011/05/29 19:19:27
    Cancer!!
    Karen E
    +4
    cancer is as close as i could come Andrew. i also feel neglect . ever noticed what happens to anything that is neglected?from a human to an old house? neglect is a slow decay that needs constant attention. the weeds of progressiveness have been allowed to put down deep roots. from petty jealousy over what others have sacrificed to attain, the gimme mentality without actually earning what they think they deserve, and taking GOD out of everything for pc. America, which house do you want? attain gimme mentality earning deserve god pc america house abandoned house or attain gimme mentality earning deserve god pc america house beautiful house
  • Andrew Karen E 2011/05/29 22:17:30
    Andrew
    I don't think I could have said it better! I'll take house #2 if that's OK with you!
  • Karen E Andrew 2011/05/29 22:30:04
    Karen E
    +1
    ok.the front yard looks hard to mow.
  • Andrew Karen E 2011/05/29 23:15:49
    Andrew
    That's true! The other is el natural. I'll take it! NOT!!!!!!
  • Morgan ... Karen E 2011/05/30 11:29:39
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    Bravo Karen! Well said.
  • Karen E Morgan ... 2011/05/30 17:50:25
    Karen E
    +1
    thank you kind soul. Andrew's questions brings out the philosopher in me. though he is a master, i am a poor acolyte hoping i make sense at times.
  • Morgan ... Karen E 2011/05/30 21:25:14
    Morgan Orlins
    You made perfect sense!
  • none 2011/05/29 17:37:33
    Cancer!!
    none
    +3
    The country is consuming itself from the inside with an incompetent group of Senators, Congressmen, and the chief incompetent the unAmerican Obama. Until Washington is swept clean of liberals and do nothings we'll continue to be in trouble.
  • Andrew none 2011/05/29 18:20:27
    Andrew
    +2
    Get out the brooms! In the mean time, let's arm ourselves with knowledge of our Great Constitution and straighten up our act morally! If we want to change them, first we need to change US!
  • ur XLNC... Andrew 2011/05/30 18:27:16
    ur XLNC-PWCM
    +1
    I'm finishing up a class in "American Government", and the textbook is informative and enlightening. The theme is 'rule by the elitist's', and this nation was founded on this theory. Today's elitist's are NOT playing by the game-plan as envisioned by the founders. To remove everybody that needs to be gone from the Legislative and Executive branches is going to require PETITIONS to our state legislature's DEMANDING TERM-LIMITS and the REMOVAL of Obama. Congress is supposed to have enough integrity to do this without coercion, alas, they do NOT! It is going to take the participation of 34 states.
  • Andrew ur XLNC... 2011/05/30 19:06:30
    Andrew
    I think we just might get those limits of national sentiments are what we have here in PA! I'm game! Thing about the "elites" of the 18th Century is that they were willing to lose it all to make liberty available for all! Not too many are so willing today! I'm hoping the Koch Brothers are those kind of people! We only need a few and the left has Soros and Ted Turner!
  • ur XLNC... Andrew 2011/05/30 19:19:38
    ur XLNC-PWCM
    +1
    They have quit treating it as "PUBLIC SERVICE" and are treating it as their personal piggie-banks and who are WE to complain about our betters telling us what is best for us.
  • Andrew ur XLNC... 2011/05/30 19:29:01
    Andrew
    I guess we'll just have to destroy them at the polls in 2012, won't we?!
  • BobJessen 2011/05/29 16:46:07
    Bacterial Infection!!
    BobJessen
    +2
    Sloth! Folks Gotta Stop Whinin' n' git Offen their Duffs. Do Shumpthin'! See My Pictures fer an Example...
  • Andrew BobJessen 2011/05/30 07:25:02
    Andrew
    +1
    Laziness is a sad and spreading cancer! Thanks for the input!
  • Cptfreakout . 2011/05/29 15:34:22
    Suicide!!
    Cptfreakout .
    +1
    Look at the posts here the attacks and hate on any thing democrat or republican (depending on side) , ever known an American to read a history book or about another culture/viewpoint or try and build or program a robot or micro controller ? how many parents bother studying a school subject so they can help with home work watched a movie with subtitles or listened to a foreign station music/news arrogance and ignorance are doing us in .
  • Andrew Cptfrea... 2011/05/29 16:07:54
    Andrew
    +1
    Although I think you are correct regarding arrogance within Americans, I do not feel I need to understand some other culture to be a good American! I don't think other nations care much to understand ours either! That is important if I am to do business abroad or am going to be a diplomat, but not to be a good citizen of this nation! Where I think WE lack is our understanding of our own Constitution and a lack of a spiritual anchor and moral code! Those are what is causing our demise!
  • Moose 2011/05/29 14:40:39
  • Andrew Moose 2011/05/29 16:16:33
    Andrew
    Although I think you are correct, our position politically and economically is so precarious that such incremental change is too slow to save this country! We must wrest control of the parties from the elites and put it back in the hands of the people! That can happen if we wake up and return to the Founding Principles of the Constitution!
  • Moose Andrew 2011/05/30 11:03:30

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