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If Scott Brown Beats Martha Coakley In The Massachusetts Race, Will Democrats Begin To Withdrawl There Votes For Obamacare?

♥Nicole Nataliah♥ 2010/01/19 16:01:32
Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Americans dont want Obamacare and is one big reason Coakley will LOSE!
No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any better do they?
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Five things to watch in Mass.

The stakes for Tuesday’s special Senate election in Massachusetts couldn’t be higher. At play: the Democrats’ 60-seat supermajority — and, potentially, the fate of President Barack Obama’s signature health care reform legislation.

But as Democrat Martha Coakley and Republican Scott Brown head into the rare mid-January race, just who will show up at the polls remains something of a mystery.

“Conventional wisdom is, the high turnout favors the Democrat. But in a special election, high turnout is volatile because you don’t know who’s showing up,” said Scott Ferson, a Democratic strategist in the state.

Making the vote even tougher to predict: the weather. Tuesday’s forecast calls for a mix of snow and rain, with temperatures in the low 30s.

To make some sense of the early returns, POLITICO put together a guide of five things to watch as the results come in, after polls close at 8 p.m.

Look at the South Shore

It’s no coincidence that Brown’s campaign imagery has highlighted his Everyman appeal. An early ad showed him riding his pickup truck across the state, he’s spent time campaigning in the cold outside Fenway Park, and his “People’s Tour” rally featured New England sports heroes such as Red Sox great Curt Schilling and former Boston College football star Doug Flutie.

There couldn’t be a greater contrast with Coakley, who often has exuded an entitled image on the campaign trail, no more clearly illustrated than when she expressed her preference, in an interview with the Boston Globe, for meeting with party leaders instead of glad-handing supporters. (A telling statistic: Brown has made 66 campaign stops since the primary, while Coakley has made only 19, as of Sunday.)
Her apparent confusion about Schilling — in a radio interview, she mistakenly said he was a Yankees fan — only fueled voters’ perception of her as out of touch.

Brown’s narrative has clearly hit a chord with working-class voters, who normally vote Democratic but sound receptive to the Republican’s message in a state where Democrats control all facets of government and the economy is sputtering.

Even though organized labor has lined up behind Coakley’s campaign, a Suffolk University poll conducted last week showed Brown leading Coakley 53 percent to 45 percent among voters in union households. The big test for Brown is whether he can hold onto the blue-collar crowd and mobilize them to the polls.

In a late play for this demographic, Coakley’s campaign and its allies launched an attack portraying Brown as a Wall Street Republican for opposing Obama’s proposed tax on large banks. The Coakley campaign also scrambled to put out a TV ad one day before the election showing her politicking with union members at an American Legion hall.

To get a sense of whether Brown is winning the working-class vote, look no further than early returns from the heavily Democratic Irish Catholic South Shore, where Obama suffered significant drop-offs from John Kerry’s vote in 2004. Brown needs to carry the towns of Braintree and Weymouth, two Democratic strongholds that Obama barely held in 2008.

If Brown wins 55 percent in neighboring Quincy, which Obama carried by 18 points (58 percent to 40 percent), it would be devastating to the Coakley campaign.

Watch for signs of life from the Democratic machine

Brown has campaigned on a message of taking on the state’s entrenched Democratic majority, but it’s that very machine that is crucial to Coakley’s ability to win.

That get-out-the-vote effort will be centered in Boston and the academic hub of Cambridge, the liberal base of the state, which needs to come out strongly for Coakley to prevail. Obama’s last-minute rally for Coakley in Boston was a recognition that the campaign needs to re-energize his 2008 coalition, particularly getting young, African-American and Hispanic voters to the polls.

In Boston, her biggest ally is longtime Mayor Thomas Menino, whose urban political machine is legendary and helped him comfortably win reelection last year, despite opposing Democratic challengers running on a Brown-like message of change.

But last month’s Democratic primary results suggest she can’t automatically assume enthusiastic support: Even though Coakley won most municipalities across the state, Rep. Michael Capuano outpolled her in Boston and Cambridge.

“I think turnout in the Boston area is crucial,” said Andy Smith, director of the University of New Hampshire Survey Center.

Coakley also needs proportionally higher turnout in the Democratic-leaning cities of Springfield and Worcester, where party get-out-the-vote efforts have also been concentrated. In 2008, Obama won 77 percent of the vote in Springfield and 68 percent of the vote in Worcester.

Coakley needs around 35 percent turnout in those core areas, analysts estimate, with about a 50,000-to-60,000-vote margin in Boston and a 15,000-to-20,000-vote margin in Cambridge. One plugged-in Massachusetts Democratic strategist said he’s hoping for 40 percent turnout in the cities to feel good about Coakley’s chances — enough to offset what he expects to be a strong Brown performance in the suburbs.

The I-495 suburbs

The last Republican to win statewide office in Massachusetts, former Gov. Mitt Romney, outlined the winning strategy for the GOP in a solidly Democratic state: Rack up big margins of victory in the outer Boston suburban towns, particularly those along the I-495 ring.

This part of the state is among the most Republican (at least by Massachusetts standards) and is home to many voters who are new to the region and the state. Voters here are resistant to high taxes — anti-tax referendums poll well here — and Obama’s health care plan is most likely viewed unfavorably as well.

Brown needs to win at least 55 percent of the vote in this area, particularly in high-growth places like Marlborough, Taunton and Haverhill — three towns that Romney carried by double digits in 2002 but Obama won in 2008. He’ll also need to rack up double-digit margins of victory in his home base around Wrentham and Foxborough.

David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center in Boston, said his most recent data showed Brown expanding his lead in the crucial suburban bellwethers of Gardner, Fitchburg and Peabody — a sign, he said, that the race was “opening up.”

“Brown could have a 10-point lead here,” said Paleologos.

The female vote

Since the beginning of her campaign, Coakley has targeted female voters as part of her call to break the glass ceiling in the male-dominated political culture of Massachusetts. If she wins, Coakley would become the first female senator in the state’s history.

The latest Public Policy Polling survey shows a significant gender gap: Coakley leads among women by 4 points, 50 percent to 46 percent, and Brown dominates among men, 56 percent to 41 percent.

But recent history suggests that women can make the difference in a close race. Obama carried male voters in the 2008 presidential primary, according to exit polling, but Hillary Clinton prevailed, thanks to an electorate that was 58 percent female.

The Massachusetts Democratic Party, keenly aware of the need to rally women to Coakley’s side, launched a blistering attack over the weekend, alleging that Brown wanted to turn away rape victims from hospitals.

If those tactics effectively rally women to the polls, it’s a good sign for Coakley. So take a close look at the composition of the electorate on election night. If women make up a clear majority, according to exit polls, Coakley may have an edge.

Kennedy’s impact

Endorsements don’t always have an impact in high-stakes races, but Democrats say Vicki Kennedy’s late endorsement of Coakley could prove pivotal in her last-minute push to win the Cape and the southeastern part of the state — where the Kennedy family name still rings strong.

“I think Kennedy’s endorsement in the last days is the factor that is most likely to get into people’s conscience,” said James Roosevelt, a Massachusetts member of the Democratic National Committee. “I think if we see a result that is different from what the poll is showing, that will be in part because of the Kennedy endorsement.”

Barnstable and Plymouth counties along Cape Cod are the places where Kennedy’s memory would most likely rescue Coakley in the eleventh hour. If she wins those counties — bellwether areas that Obama won narrowly in 2008 — it is a good sign for her campaign.

Jeffrey Berry, a Tufts University political scientist, cautioned that Coakley can’t rely on the Kennedy family name to pull her across the finish line.

“I think Democrats are surprised that the Kennedy seat might be going Republican, but most voters don’t relate Coakley to the Kennedy family.”

In a sign that voters in the state might not be looking for a candidate to carry on the Kennedy legacy, Kennedy last week called her late husband’s seat “the people’s seat,” not the “Kennedy seat,” in a closing Coakley ad

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  • ♥Nicole Nataliah♥ 2010/01/19 16:04:44
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    ♥Nicole Nataliah♥
    +9
    I think a few will HAVE to say no to Obamacare. Coakley wants Obamacare and Brown doesnt. Democrats are ignoring what they American people want and the Republicans are listening to us and representing our wants. And keep in mind this, Massachusetts is 87% Democratic and a few of that is Indepedent! Amazing how Brown is projected the winner to upset Coakley! If this isnt the biggest warning sign to the Democrats that they have messed up in the worst way then I dont know when they will ever wake up!
    indepedent brown projected winner coakley warning sign democrats messed wake

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  • grumpy 2010/01/20 04:36:31
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    grumpy
    absolutely 1/3 of the senate and all of the house has to go to the polls come NOV and they are SHAKING in their boots starting with Hairy reed
  • jerrbear 2010/01/20 03:11:29
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    jerrbear
    They have admitted that they are going to use stall tactics to keep scott brown out so they can get this passed with 51 votes only
  • Mr Mike 2010/01/20 03:10:54 (edited)
    Undecided
    Mr Mike
    Watch them hit the accelerator,,,pedal to the metal!!
  • debadow 2010/01/20 02:50:16
    Undecided
    debadow
    If they're smart and want to keep their jobs, They will vote against healthcare.
  • HolyRoller 2010/01/20 02:34:21
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    HolyRoller
    +2
    It is all over....Brown declared winner.

    ObamaCare is Dead Like Ted....

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!
    brown winner obamacare dead ted roflmao
  • Plantgypc 2010/01/20 02:02:32
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    Plantgypc
    I think they will back pedal so fast it won't be funny. However it will only turn the democratic voters against them, and the republican still won't vote for them. Go Brown!!!
  • TruBluTopaz 2010/01/20 01:37:07
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    TruBluTopaz
    Lindsay Graham is now making noises like he's against it. Landrieu will back off as well.
  • *Danno* JYD - SWMTPP 2010/01/20 01:13:07
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    *Danno* JYD - SWMTPP
    According to the Hotair.com blog ght democrat infighting/blame game has begun, thus their abandoning the Communist styled 0bamaScare debacle seems to be the wise thing to do ... but NEVER underestimate the stupidity of any Democrat!

  • dmac 2010/01/20 00:47:05 (edited)
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    dmac
    There might be one or two but I don't think they are smart enough to understand or to power hungry to see the real problem. People don't want the H C bill. It won't help anyone and a lot of us older people are afraid of it.
    The sneeky, behind closed doors way that just a select couple of people have been putting this together is what I would call illegal and unconstitutional. Then there is the cost that will bankrupt us and still not cover the people they think should be covered. Has anyone thought about all of the homeless that we can't find and count ? There are just to many loop holes. This whole mess needs to be tossed into file 13 and started all over again. But Reid and Pelosi and Obama want to go down in history on some kind of H C no matter if it is good or bad.
    Also people are sick of all of the uncalled for spending that has gone on for the last year. This group makes Bush look like a pauper on spending.
    One thing we should really be worried about is that the Democratic party is no longer the real Democrats. They haven't had a real Democratic platform in at least 30 years. They have picked up to many of a mixture of ideal from Marxists and Socialists and Communism to mention a few of the complete controlling factors they have gradually adopted over the years..
  • technotrucker 2010/01/20 00:43:35
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    technotrucker
    +2
    It's too late to save face now. America already know what dirty scum they are. Say bye bye.
    peace
  • Dwight Mann 2010/01/19 23:47:09
    Undecided
    Dwight Mann
    +2
    I think the die has been cast. If you are a Democrat, you are now a socialist, and that galls most patriotic Americans. Democrats will die as a party, only to reformed as the liberals, or something else equally offensive!

    galls patriotic americans democrats die party reformed liberals equally offensive
  • very Conservative "me" 2010/01/19 23:19:57
    Undecided
    very Conservative "me"
    +1
    Pelosi said she doesn't care - healthcare reform will go through. I'm told they plan to buy Republicans to take the place of an Dems that back out. In all things they are scoundrels, cheats and crooks.
  • hisomouth 2010/01/19 22:49:11
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    hisomouth
    The ones that would have back off in teh house has already done so. The senate thinks they are gods and walk on water.
  • Wolf 2010/01/19 22:31:53
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    Wolf
    +1
    These tyrants will not stop. They have not litened to the voters to date and they have their own social agenda that is destroying the country and will bankrupt it inside the next 5 years.
  • biff 2010/01/19 22:23:40
    Undecided
    biff
    Some might due to genuine objections to the revised plan. The Pro-Life House Democrats for example. Others, those in swing districts, might because they see the writing on the wall, especially if Brown wins. If Brown wins big (5% or more) Obamacare is dead.
  • Billyk75 2010/01/19 21:48:16
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    Billyk75
    +1
    If you want to keep your constituants happy then you please them not rile them.
  • Kimmel 2010/01/19 21:47:31
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    Kimmel
    +1
    This election is about Obama. If Brown wins, I believe you will see many people reevaluating their futures in politics.

    coakley lose election obama brown wins people reevaluating futures politics
  • Captain Kirk~POTL 2010/01/19 20:47:00
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    Captain Kirk~POTL
    +3
    But it really won`t help them,they already committed political suicide when they refused to listen to their constituents!
  • drc 2010/01/19 20:05:32
    Undecided
    drc
    +1
    Hard to say...maybe the Blug-dog Dems might. I wish they all would...that bill is nothing but a cluster f**k.
  • TinCanSailor 2010/01/19 19:14:49
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    TinCanSailor
    +2
    I am optimistic and believe that Brown is going to WIN the election in Massachusetts.
  • DavE 2010/01/19 19:06:27
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    DavE
    +5
    The Socialist Democrats will NEVER give an inch on their corrupt bankrupting healthcare plans. The few fringe Democrats will reconsider and that will be a heck of a political soap opera to watch.
  • a 2010/01/19 18:59:32
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    a
    +3
    They are socialist. They want socialized medicine.
  • Conservatoons 2010/01/19 18:32:38
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    Conservatoons
    +2
    They will double down. This kind of behavior, these kinds of tantrums are what you get when you elect hippies to office. It would have been nice not to have learned this lesson the hard way. votes double behavior kinds tantrums elect hippies office learned lesson
  • Diane 2010/01/19 18:22:45
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    Diane
    +2
    Coakley's Downfall

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    (Martha as Hitler).
  • Diane Diane 2010/01/19 18:27:53
    Diane
    +5
    When Scott Brown wins that will be the end of DeathCare!

    GOP lawyers say Paul Kirk will no longer be a senator after election day.

    Appointed Senator Paul Kirk will lose his vote in the Senate after Tuesday’s election in Massachusetts of a new senator and cannot be the 60th vote for Democratic health care legislation, according to Republican attorneys.

    Kirk has vowed to vote for the Democratic bill even if Republican Scott Brown is elected but not yet certified by state officials and officially seated in the Senate. Kirk’s vote is crucial because without the 60 votes necessary to stop a Republican filibuster, the bill will be defeated.

    This would be a devastating loss for President Obama and congressional Democrats. The bill, dubbed ObamaCare, is the centerpiece of the president’s agenda. Brown has campaigned on becoming the 41st vote against ObamaCare.

    But in the days after the election, it is Kirk’s status that matters, not Brown’s. Massachusetts law says that an appointed senator remains in office “until election and qualification of the person duly elected to fill the vacancy.” The vacancy occurred when Senator Edward Kennedy died in August. Kirk was picked as interim senator by Governor Deval Patrick.

    Democrats in Massachusetts have talked about delaying Brown’...









    When Scott Brown wins that will be the end of DeathCare!

    GOP lawyers say Paul Kirk will no longer be a senator after election day.

    Appointed Senator Paul Kirk will lose his vote in the Senate after Tuesday’s election in Massachusetts of a new senator and cannot be the 60th vote for Democratic health care legislation, according to Republican attorneys.

    Kirk has vowed to vote for the Democratic bill even if Republican Scott Brown is elected but not yet certified by state officials and officially seated in the Senate. Kirk’s vote is crucial because without the 60 votes necessary to stop a Republican filibuster, the bill will be defeated.

    This would be a devastating loss for President Obama and congressional Democrats. The bill, dubbed ObamaCare, is the centerpiece of the president’s agenda. Brown has campaigned on becoming the 41st vote against ObamaCare.

    But in the days after the election, it is Kirk’s status that matters, not Brown’s. Massachusetts law says that an appointed senator remains in office “until election and qualification of the person duly elected to fill the vacancy.” The vacancy occurred when Senator Edward Kennedy died in August. Kirk was picked as interim senator by Governor Deval Patrick.

    Democrats in Massachusetts have talked about delaying Brown’s “certification,” should he defeat Democrat Martha Coakley on Tuesday. Their aim would be to allow Kirk to remain in the Senate and vote the health care bill.

    But based on Massachusetts law, Senate precedent, and the U.S. Constitution, Republican attorneys said Kirk will no longer be a senator after election day, period. Brown meets the age, citizenship, and residency requirements in the Constitution to qualify for the Senate. “Qualification” does not require state “certification,” the lawyers said.

    An appointed senator’s right to vote is not dependent on whether his successor has been certified, the lawyers said. In Massachusetts, the election of a senator must be certified by the governor, the governor’s council, and the secretary of state – all of them Democrats.

    If Brown wins narrowly and a recount is being conducted, Democratic lawyers might claim that he hasn’t been “duly elected.” Republican attorneys believe, however, that a candidate has actually been elected, though it won’t be clear who that is until the recount is completed. In Massachusetts, a recount can occur if the margin of victory is less than half a percent of the total vote.

    Republican lawyers have examined Massachusetts particularly to find the rules governing a recount. They also studied the law passed after Kennedy’s death on a Senate successor.

    Buh bye, Martha! Buh bye.
    (more)
  • Dan (Politicaly Incorrect) 2010/01/19 18:14:30
    Undecided
    Dan (Politicaly Incorrect)
    +4
    They already know a majority of the American People don't want it. They loose Mass. they may pull back their vote. But what ever has compelled them to already go against the people may keep doing it. Already it has been leaked that Obama will dig in his heels and push ahead with his agenda.
  • Dan D 2010/01/19 18:14:29
    Undecided
    Dan D
    +2
    You would think they'd get the message, but they seem to be an arrogant lot. If Brown wins and the Democrats still push this through I predict there will be a huge backlash in November.
  • Old Poet 2010/01/19 18:10:38
    Undecided
    Old Poet
    +2
    If he is elected, look for the Democratic Congress to pull out the stops to delay his seating and if it's close and he wins, they will challange his election forever. He will not be seated in time for the healthcare vote.
  • ♥Nicole... Old Poet 2010/01/19 18:50:08
    ♥Nicole Nataliah♥
    +3
    Most senators have been seated either the next day or 2 days. It has already been said it is going to be delayed for at LEAST 10 days!
  • Old Poet ♥Nicole... 2010/01/22 13:24:14
    Old Poet
    Well it's later now. They will seat him. I guess the margin and the message was clear.
  • zyledr 2010/01/19 18:07:08
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    zyledr
    +1
    I wish I could be optimistic, but they are hell bent on getting it through. After seeing Obama's first year in office it's clear he will bend or break every rule and do whatever it takes to get King Obamas way.
  • govlastpeoplefirst 2010/01/19 17:59:59
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    govlastpeoplefirst
    +1
    I think Obama the the very liberal Pelosi will do anything to get this through. We the people don't matter. I believe we are seeing our first dictator. I hope I am wrong. I will change my mind about Obama if he does the right thing, goes back to the drawing board and does HC reform right. everyone wants reform. It shouldn't be more than 10 pages with no PORK and NO SPECIAL DEALS.
  • 12 Tone Melody 2010/01/19 17:53:37
    Undecided
    12 Tone Melody
    +2
    I would hope the DimRats would learn & pull their votes back, but I doubt they have enough sense to look beyond blind ideology
  • Ladnar 2010/01/19 17:53:26
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    Ladnar
    +2
    The Libs will speed up ramming it through in order to avoid another vote on it, like the underhanded scumbags they are.
  • karmadrome 2010/01/19 17:34:10
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    karmadrome
    +1
    Anyone know a good website to watch the polls? (Other than the MSM)
  • Bill in Niantic 2010/01/19 17:33:10
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    Bill in Niantic
    +4
    democrats pull votes
    From Mike Allen at Politico:

    “The health care backdrop has given the White House a strong incentive to strike a defiant posture, at least rhetorically, in response to what would be an undeniable embarrassment for the president and his party.”

    “There won’t be any grand proclamation that “the era of Big Government is over” — the words President Bill Clinton uttered after Republicans won the Congress in the 1990s and he was forced to trim a once-ambitious agenda.”
    ““The response will not be to do incremental things and try to salvage a few seats in the fall,” a presidential adviser said. “The best political route also happens to be the boldest rhetorical route, which is to go out and fight and let the chips fall where they may. We can say, ‘At least we fought for these things, and the Republicans said no.’”
    *****************************...

    Uhh, if Brown wins today, it will be with the help of DEMOCRATS and INDEPENDENTS saying NO, you tone deaf freaks! -bfh
  • Fannie 2010/01/19 17:20:37
    No. The Democrats will not pull back their yes votes. They dont know any bett...
    Fannie
    +1
    Pelosi said the show will go on.
  • mike 2010/01/19 17:13:12
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    mike
  • kormster 2010/01/19 17:05:29 (edited)
    Yes, the Democrats will begin to pull back their yes vote for Obamacare. Amer...
    kormster
    +1
    can you say chickens with their heads cut off? Doesn't Obama understand that if he fixed the economy and got everyone happy they would not be so pissed off about his plans?
  • Carl 2010/01/19 17:04:25
    Undecided
    Carl
    +1
    They will become more cautious and maybe start to withhold their votes.

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