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  • T J Elaine ... 2012/04/18 00:19:41
    T J
    Or killing anyone (death penalty, war) for that matter. Or trashing people in his name. Or doing what you are doing, passing judgment. Let he that is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus is about love, where is your love?
  • oldlady 2012/04/15 22:46:17
    Liberal
    oldlady
    +2
    No doubt about it ;-)
  • ✞Knight... oldlady 2012/04/16 02:56:19
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +1
    lol, Why would Jesus support the party that renounces all of his teachings on social issues?
  • Scott ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 09:33:23
    Scott
    +2
    That's why he wouldn't be a conservative. Jesus was a pacifist who was in favor of taking everything (if necessary) from the rich to feed, and clothe the poor, heal the sick, and was in favor of equal justice for all. He was even opposed to the death penalty!
  • oldlady Scott 2012/04/16 12:17:42
    oldlady
    Great answer!
  • ✞Knight... Scott 2012/04/16 19:24:37 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    Of those claims, I only dispute his "opposition to the death penalty," your Biblical citation is needed for that one.

    My point is that he would be strongly opposed to the abortion, homosexuality, and antireligious legislature for which the Liberals are well known.
  • oldlady ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 12:17:04
    oldlady
    Who said republican? I never brought up republican. So you think all republicans are atheist? I would never lump all of them togeather like that. Jesus was a liberal minded man so I say liberal. You don't like it? Not my problem Dark Vengeance. Gosh, that's a scary name, are you gonna hurt me? Please don't hurt me!
  • ✞Knight... oldlady 2012/04/16 19:26:25
    ✞Knight of Honor
    No one said Republican and I didn't bring it up either. IDK what the hell you're talking about.

    I was observing that Jesus he would be strongly opposed to the abortion, homosexuality, and antireligious legislature for which the Liberals are well known.
  • TrudyGirl 2012/04/15 22:32:12
    Liberal
    TrudyGirl
    +1
    He would not be anything political but would be closest to the Liberals because he has compassion which I do not see in the Conservatives most particularly the Tea Party group. They say they act in his name but boy would he be disgusted by them and their bigotry. I don't however believe he saves mankind; I think he was a prophet and a man who wanted us to live a life of kindness. He would not have approved of the anger, greed, and bigotry of this world.
  • Turings... TrudyGirl 2012/04/16 02:07:05
    TuringsChild
    +2
    Jesus wouldn't be fooled by Liberal OR Conservative talking points and lies. NEITHER Party is on your side.
  • TrudyGirl Turings... 2012/04/16 02:23:42
    TrudyGirl
    +3
    Please note that I said he would be neither.
  • ✞Knight... TrudyGirl 2012/04/16 03:00:21 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    However Jesus would never endorse support for abortion, homosexuality, and antireligious legislature for which the Liberals are well known. He would support none of these parties though.
  • Sister Jean 2012/04/15 22:30:14
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/04/15 22:18:45
    Likud
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Independent, not beholden to men. :)
  • Tennessee3501 2012/04/15 21:55:24
    Conservative
    Tennessee3501
    +2
    Jesus taught individual initiative and self reliance. He would therefore be a conservative! However, since he also associated himself with lepers, prostitutes and criminals to show compassion, empathy and to convert them, he would probably be willing to do a few interviews on MSNBC to "help the poor" improve their ratings! I believe, however, that even he would shun "Current TV" as a tool of Satan!
  • Liberals are useless 2012/04/15 21:28:36
    Libertarian
    Liberals are useless
    +2
    I'm a very conservative person, if there was a "neither" category, I would say neither. Jesus butted heads with the Pharisees and the Sadducees which would be like Dems and Republicans. One side thought they were holy then others and the other side was soft, sound familiar? Jesus would have not been in a party or ideology, it would have been common sense of right and wrong.
  • gbudavid 2012/04/15 21:22:58
    Likud
    gbudavid
    +4
    None of the above Jesus is Lord. If he were here He would be in Charge
  • Flamingolady 2012/04/15 21:15:26
    Likud
    Flamingolady
    +2
    He would not want people speculating what kind of politics he would prefer. He would want other more humanitarian qualities to be thought of.
  • Joker2874 2012/04/15 19:43:37
    Liberal
    Joker2874
    +2
    Very interestng ??..Jesus Christ in 2days world..First, I think after His rturn & after takng in some of the news of the week on CNN & seeing stuff on YouTube..He might just throw up his hands & say, "Holy S#@%..There aint no saving this bunch..These people R waay
    worse than the last group I tried to save.."..But Jesus was trying to change the way the people thought back in the day..from the religious establishmnt to the common man..He tryd to bring peace & unite different cultures eventhough they hated each other..He'd B like MLK of 2day..He'd probably get a Noble Peace Prize..Have a huge global following.. Which would probably B a red flag to the FBI & CIA..Cant B too popular eventhou Jesus wanst anti-govt (rmember, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's)..Bu all His efforts would probably get himself killed again, probably assassinated..not a public trial, prisoner xchange & execution..bcause some times U cant change what is in mind & hearts of Man...Look at the Middle East..Egypt, Syria, Al Quida & Isreal..Enemies 4 thousands of yrs..Sometimes no matter what U do or say..U cant change how people think..But I think we definitely use His human presence here on Earth again..The world had has gone to S#@% in a hand basket..both in man-made & natural..We could definitely use His guidence..
  • ruthannhausman 2012/04/15 19:40:48
    Conservative
    ruthannhausman
    +3
    I'd say closer to conservative; however, to be honest with you, you really could not place Jesus into any of our petty political classifications. That's because Jesus was pure and he was fair 100% of the time. There are "conservatives" who sometimes act (or vote) in a liberal manner, depending on the subject matter. Same with all of the categories. Sometimes people will cross party lines because of an important, main issue.

    In any event, Jesus did, indeed, get caught up with the politics of the day and He paid the highest price for being a threat to those in power who didn't understand Him. So I'd say you can't put him into any of these categories; however, his accomplishments, if you will, I believe would fit more into a "conservative" classification than any other. Just my opinion. Now I hope I don't fry in Hell for even trying to put Jesus on a level with us dirty humans. Hah!.
  • Scott ruthann... 2012/04/15 20:30:26
    Scott
    +2
    I don't see how anyone could say conservative. He was more a liberal than Ralph Nader. He preached that the rich should give everything they have to the poor. Feeding the hungry and healing the sick are the issues he spoke most about. He was liberal to the core. There was nothing remotely resembling conservative ideology in any of his teachings--just the opposite, if anything.
  • ruthann... Scott 2012/04/15 21:51:20
    ruthannhausman
    +1
    I'll have to think about that one. You could be right but I don't like the mere thought of placing a label of "liberal" on Jesus Christ! Sorry, but that word bothers me anymore. I was thinking along the lines of Jesus was also strong along lines of accountability and whatnot. But, again, I'll give your comment a thought because you are right in what you've said.

    Incidentally, I actually hate labeling anybody anything. It kind of wraps you up in a blanket full of ticks, if you ask me. But thanks for the wake-up call.
  • Harold 2012/04/15 18:33:24
    Likud
    Harold
    +3
    He's unclassifiable. He is God's son. Jesus is alive and in a sense walks among us. He would not be a part of any political party.
  • Singerar 2012/04/15 18:11:31
    Liberal
    Singerar
    +2
    Feed the poor? Don't judge? No war? Peaceful?
  • ✞Knight... Singerar 2012/04/16 03:01:58 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    However Jesus would never endorse support for abortion, homosexuality, and antireligious legislature for which the Liberals are well known. He would support none of these parties though.
  • Singerar ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 03:30:19
    Singerar
    Perhaps not...but he said nothing of homosexuality. Remember, he hung out with those who were shunned. Not the locals!
  • ✞Knight... Singerar 2012/04/16 03:33:55 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    I am aware, but he said to adhere to the Laws of the Old Testament (with the exception of the laws of consumption). In addition, Romans 1:18-32 was in the New Testament and it clearly states homosexuality is immoral.

    18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 ...
    I am aware, but he said to adhere to the Laws of the Old Testament (with the exception of the laws of consumption). In addition, Romans 1:18-32 was in the New Testament and it clearly states homosexuality is immoral.

    18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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  • Singerar ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 07:58:31
    Singerar
    I don't listen to Fundies. Sorry. I've was raised in the Church with 5 preachers in my family, studied at a Baptist University (theology) and decided that most organized religions are such hypocrites that you can't hang your trust in many of them. (Some however are TRUE Christians like my parents, no judgements, no racism, totally open to everyone's ideas and do not speak ill of anyone...EVER. I do trust that sector. Those are the good eggs in society.)

    Plus, with all you typed above....all I heard is blah, blah, blah, blah...I've heard it all thousands of times. Quoting scripture does not make you a teacher or a good person.

    Sorry. Actually, it makes you judgmental and ignorant. Go study some more about people and societies. Go volunteer, watch, listen and keep your mouth shut unless someone needs some spiritual guidance. No need to shove it down their throats. It's better to show by ACTIONS that spouting fire and brimstone or judgmental words. Knowledge is power...and you need more than the Bible to help those in need. Get a counseling degree if you want to really help people.

    You see, my God is kind. He is benevolent. He rewards those who are kind as well and live life in earnest. Please don't preach to me again.
    It's embarrassing for you and I will pass it by.
    Seriously.
  • ✞Knight... Singerar 2012/04/16 19:32:03
    ✞Knight of Honor
    Then why did you bother to respond to me?

    "Plus, with all you typed above....all I heard is blah, blah, blah, blah...I've heard it all thousands of times."
    -So you are automatically opposed to any opinion different than your own? and you have the egotism to claim that I'm closed minded?

    "Quoting scripture does not make you a teacher or a good person."
    -No, but it is the first step.

    "Actually, it makes you judgmental and ignorant."
    -Spreading God's word and laws as Jesus told his followers to do makes me judgmental and ignorant? How do figure that one?

    "You see, my God is kind. He is benevolent. He rewards those who are kind as well and live life in earnest."
    -That's my God as well.

    "Please don't preach to me again. It's embarrassing for you and I will pass it by."
    -I know my duty to God and I really don't care if you disagree with me doing God's will; I'm still going to do it.
  • Singerar ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 19:40:01
    Singerar
    Good for you. I have a right not to listen.
  • ✞Knight... Singerar 2012/04/16 19:42:39 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    True but I still have a right to the freedom of speech.
  • Singerar ✞Knight... 2012/04/16 19:46:39
    Singerar
    Didn't say ya didn't
  • Scott Singerar 2012/04/16 12:00:02
    Scott
    Yep. Don't forget his opposition to the death penalty, "Whosoever is without sin should cast the first stone ..."
  • Singerar Scott 2012/04/16 17:21:01
    Singerar
    I'll agree with that.
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2012/04/15 17:46:20
    Conservative
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +2
    And He is alive today.
    He would be a conservative because He would represent the original intent of God for the world.
  • heirsoftheking 2012/04/15 17:10:15
    Conservative
    heirsoftheking
    +3
    He wouldn't support Obama-care, because Jesus is the source of healing - and he healed plenty of people without charging them any money. He drove demons out of the insane, rather than sending them to a government-run mental institution.
    He talked about settling matters with your adversaries quickly, before they take you to court.
    He threw the money-changers out of the temple by using a whip and knocking over their tables, and he condemned how they turned his Father's "House of prayer" into a den of thieves.
    He was very resourceful with the miracles he performed, like using only 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish to feed 5,000.
    He told us to give to Caesar (leader of his day) what belonged to Caesar, and to give to God what belongs to God.
    He told anyone divorced not to re-marry, unless they reconcile with the one they previously divorced from and re-marry them.
    He criticized the religious big-shots of his day who outwardly looked wonderful, while their hearts were full of evil.
    Altogether, Jesus appears to be closest to being a conservative, tough he humbly wouldn't claim it.
  • Scott heirsof... 2012/04/16 11:42:37
    Scott
    Jesus is the source of healing? Are you serious? He wasn't struttin around sayin he's the only source of healing ... he was healing sick people because they were sick and NEEDED IT! You paint him like he was some kind of ego-maniac who would condemn any healing that didn't come from him... but it wasn't about that for him. It was about helping people who needed it. He most certainly WOULD have supported Obamacare because HE was not so small minded and egotistical that he would care who was helping heal the sick ... just that they were being helped.

    And yes, he despised the religious conservatives of his day. They called themselves Pharisees and he detested them, just as he detests the modern day Pharisees who call themselves "evangelicals" or "Christian conservatives." If you really think Jesus would have been a conservative then you haven't read the gospels, because conservatism is the exact opposite of everything Jesus taught and stood for. The exact opposite.
  • heirsof... Scott 2012/04/16 18:06:13
    heirsoftheking
    Nope. You're wrong. Obama-care forces people to pay into the system, and leaves no room for those who expect a miracle from God. Obama-care tries to exalt itself above God by saying "We are the way you will get healed." But the Bible tells us that God is a jealous God, wanting us to make him the only God in our life, thus Jesus would oppose Obama-care.

    I've had no health insurance since early 2004, yet by prayer and faith, Jesus healed me from almost total deafness in my left ear, and He removed 5 kidney stones from my left kidney - three 5mm stones, one 1cm stone, and one 2cm stone about the diameter of a nickel. I paid $120 for an MRI to learn of the stones because I had no health insurance. Prayer led me to discover lemon juice. The "almost-completely-deaf left ear" was healed simply by faith in Jesus - no doctors, no drugs, no surgery, no insurance.

    Obama-care wouldn't be so bad if it left room for people like me to opt out of it altogether, simply because I put my faith in a stronger God.
  • SoCalEx-Dem 2012/04/15 17:07:24
    Conservative
    SoCalEx-Dem
    +4
    It very clear to me Jesus loved his sheep (Children) the democrats are for destroying babies, which would put him in opposition to the liberals.
  • cudlow SoCalEx... 2012/04/15 17:22:55
    cudlow
    +2
    Yes absolutely! And he believed the word which defines homosexuality as a sin - not something to be celebrated like liberals want. And not to covet, be jealous of those who have more material possessions - as liberals shout from the trees. And to take the message to the whole world - not outlaw the Bible as liberals want to do!

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