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If Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2016 Will you support her ?

Tudie BN 2012/05/07 14:28:26
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  • MkB 2012/05/08 06:12:18
    no
    MkB
    +36
    Been there, tried to do that in 2008.

    Amusingly ironic that as a young Republican Clinton discovered electoral fraud against Richard Nixon in South Side Chicago. Ground zero area for voter fraud and home of Barack Obama.

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  • Lanikai 2012/05/08 17:48:58
    no
    Lanikai
    +2
    A dem is a dem. Never, no way.
  • findthelight2000 2012/05/08 17:47:13 (edited)
    Undecided
    findthelight2000
    +2
    It would depend on the other challengers. I will choose who I think is best for the Country at the time. All I can say for sure is that it will be a Liberal or preferably Progressive Democrat.
  • DavidK findthe... 2012/05/08 18:12:32 (edited)
    DavidK
    +1
    so the progressive A- hole in office now is alright with you huh?
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/08 19:14:15
    lee
    he's alright... could be better.
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/09 04:25:26
    DavidK
    whats he done that even makes him alright? Thought so......
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/09 18:13:05
    lee
    ACA
    lilly leadbetter act
    ending dAdT
    consumer protection agency
    wall st reform
    end war in Iraq
    trying to extract us from Afghanistan
    OBL
    favors stimulus over austerity

    to name a few
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/09 18:51:11
    DavidK
    nothing favors most Americans here. How do these things help the economy?!?!?!? Unemployment?!?!?
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/09 19:00:26 (edited)
    lee
    stimulus helps unemployed AND the economy
    ACA helps reduce costs
    consumer protections help everyone not get ripped off by banks

    those things affect EVERYONE

    wall st reform prevent another 1% raid on our 401k
    getting our troops home helps their families AND the economy
    ending DADT strengthens our military

    those things may only directly affect a portion of Americans, but are needed changes the health of the whole nation.

    what part of this do you not understand?

    or, are you not prepared to understand?
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/09 19:12:18
    DavidK
    stimulus helps? who?!?

    Some wasteful stimulus projects.


    1. Replacing Windows in a Closed Visitor Center (Amboy, Wash.)

    COST: $554,763

    THE REPORT SAYS: “Despite having no plans to reopen a shuttered visitor center at Mount St. Helens in Washington state, the U.S. Forest Service is spending more than $554,000 to replace its windows.”

    THE DEFENSE: While the visitor center has indeed been closed since 2007, the Forest Service says it is repurposing the facility as it explores proposed partnerships with private companies. Some of the ideas being considered include turning the site into a “science facility, education camp, or an overnight lodge.” A government official quoted in the report compares the upkeep to “keeping a vacant house in good repair.”

    WHAT WE THINK: Pursuing a public-private partnership certainly seems preferable to allowing the building to deteriorate—and if it wants to attract an ideal partner, the Forest Service will have to do some basic maintenance.

    2. Interactive Dance Software Development (Charlotte, N.C.)

    COST: $762,372

    THE REPORT SAYS: “The University of North Carolina at Charlotte received more than $750,000 in stimulus funds to help develop a computerized choreography program that its creators believe could lead to a YouTube-like ‘Dance Tube’ online application .....







































    stimulus helps? who?!?

    Some wasteful stimulus projects.


    1. Replacing Windows in a Closed Visitor Center (Amboy, Wash.)

    COST: $554,763

    THE REPORT SAYS: “Despite having no plans to reopen a shuttered visitor center at Mount St. Helens in Washington state, the U.S. Forest Service is spending more than $554,000 to replace its windows.”

    THE DEFENSE: While the visitor center has indeed been closed since 2007, the Forest Service says it is repurposing the facility as it explores proposed partnerships with private companies. Some of the ideas being considered include turning the site into a “science facility, education camp, or an overnight lodge.” A government official quoted in the report compares the upkeep to “keeping a vacant house in good repair.”

    WHAT WE THINK: Pursuing a public-private partnership certainly seems preferable to allowing the building to deteriorate—and if it wants to attract an ideal partner, the Forest Service will have to do some basic maintenance.

    2. Interactive Dance Software Development (Charlotte, N.C.)

    COST: $762,372

    THE REPORT SAYS: “The University of North Carolina at Charlotte received more than $750,000 in stimulus funds to help develop a computerized choreography program that its creators believe could lead to a YouTube-like ‘Dance Tube’ online application ... Administrative expenses are unusually high for the project, however. The project’s lead researcher noted that the university is taking a 44 percent cut to cover ‘overhead expenses.’ ”

    THE DEFENSE: UNC-Charlotte says the grant money is flowing “directly into the economy in many ways” by financing equipment and travel costs. The funds have also paid summer salaries for three professors, provided part-time jobs to three student employees, and gone toward dancer stipends and a handful of contracts with researchers and “costumers.” (Watch this video, and you’ll see why “costumers” are a necessary part of the operation.)

    WHAT WE THINK: The administrative expenses seem pretty steep. Only about half the total funding is used for the purposes above. The other 44 percent of the grant—a whopping $335,000—is going toward “overhead costs,” which, according to university administrator Stephen Moiser, cover “accounting, personnel, research facilities depreciation, utilities, library use ... to name a few.” If you think the federal government is bad with money, academia doesn’t look much better.

    3. North Shore Connector to Professional Sports Stadiums, Casino (Pittsburgh)

    COST: $62.5 million

    THE REPORT SAYS: “With an infusion of more than $62 million in stimulus money, the project [extending the city’s light rail to a growing commercial area] was taken off life support. But whether it will provide a true benefit to the city is also a matter of controversy, given that it will primarily serve to bring commuters to sporting events and a casino.”

    THE DEFENSE: Jim Ritchie, a spokesman for the city’s Port Authority, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that the light-rail connector will do much more than improve the commute for gamblers and sports fans. The area in question, he says, “has become one of the booming areas of the Pittsburgh region,” and the new connector will serve a community college, a science center, a museum, several hotels and restaurants, and two corporate centers with more than 1,000 employees combined.

    He also rebutted the report’s charge that the project has been “blowing through cost projections at alarming rates,” blaming the budget difficulties not on inefficiency, but rather the skyrocketing price of construction materials.

    WHAT WE THINK: Even the senators’ report concedes that if not for the extra stimulus money, the project might have been scrapped. And given the influx of consumers it’s likely to bring to a developing commercial area (not to mention the fact that the federal government has already poured $350 million into the project), finishing the job hardly seems irresponsible.

    4. FEMA Delay on Texas Fire Stations (San Antonio)

    COST: $7.3 million

    THE REPORT SAYS: “FEMA awarded $7.3 million to the city for construction of fire stations #50 and #51, but the projects have become so mired in red tape it is not clear when they will be built.

    “Before the stimulus award, San Antonio was set to fully fund the two new stations with its own money, having even gone so far as to hire a private contracting firm, Bartlett Cocke, to begin work. After the stimulus, however, the city found itself unexpectedly navigating complicated and expensive federal regulations, requiring environmental and historical considerations—all delaying the project significantly. The result was an estimated $2.2 million overall increase in the cost of the two stations, and Bartlett Cocke losing its contract, which in turn had to lay off employees.”

    THE DEFENSE: FEMA says the report exaggerates how long it will take to get the stations built. According to a statement from the agency, “one of the San Antonio fire stations has already completed the environmental and historic review process and the city has been given permission to start construction, and the other station has completed the public notice process and construction is expected to start shortly.”

    WHAT WE THINK: There is little question whether fire stations are a worthy source of funding, especially in a fast-growing city like San Antonio, where FEMA says emergency responders are in heightened demand. But you’ve got to wonder why the federal government is paying for a project that was already funded on a local level.

    5. Abandoned Train Station Converted Into Museum (Glassboro, N.J.)

    COST: $1.2 million

    THE REPORT SAYS: “Taxpayers may not be happy to learn that they are paying for one broken down train station twice. The Glassboro train station was built in 1860 and closed in 1971. Unused for nearly 40 years, it now sits boarded up and riddled with graffiti. In 2002, the Borough of Glassboro, New Jersey, received nearly a quarter of a million dollars from the U.S. Department of Transportation to purchase the train station … to incorporate [it] into the regional NJ Transit system …

    “After eight years of failure … local officials lobbied hard for additional stimulus money. They are hoping to spend the more than $1 million for the project ‘interpreting local history in its proper setting and make it a museum, public meeting space and welcome center.’ ”

    THE DEFENSE: Glassboro borough official Randi Woerner contends that the restoration will stimulate the economy by providing jobs for local contractors and increasing the value of the houses in town. (The train station has become an eyesore, and resides literally in someone’s backyard.) She also takes issue with the implication that taxpayers are “paying twice” for the project because of the city’s inefficiency. In fact, Woerner explains, the city used its first grant to buy the property and get the proposed renovations approved, while the second grant will pay for the actual restoration of the historical site.

    WHAT WE THINK: To be sure, the red tape surrounding historical sites has frustrated many a city planner, but Woerner is right that the project will create jobs.
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  • lee DavidK 2012/05/09 19:20:52
    lee
    so... did the windows get replaced?

    then it benefits at least the ppl paid to change the windows, no?

    that generates goods orders for windows...

    there has to be transpo of the materials, not only to the job site but to the factory the built the windows...


    why is this not good in your mind?
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/09 19:25:35
    DavidK
    thank God you don't have to manage any budget!
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/09 20:08:01
    lee
    are u quibbling over the amt?
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/10 03:25:53
    DavidK
    you're trying to defend foolish spending
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/10 16:23:52
    lee
    did you read the rationale and the justification?

    do you think they should have just let it fall apart?

    or should they have spent money to tear it down?
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/10 20:30:29
    DavidK
    shouldn't have taken the money to begin with.
  • lee DavidK 2012/05/10 22:17:45
    lee
    no windows for you...then?

    just let it go back to nature.. or become a crack den?

    nice America you want for us.
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/10 22:43:53
    DavidK
    what an idiot
  • DavidK lee 2012/05/09 19:14:13
  • findthe... DavidK 2012/05/09 00:53:35
    findthelight2000
    He's done a great job so far, A-hole!
  • KG 2012/05/08 17:35:54
    no
    KG
    +2
    We don't need yet another sell out puppet. She should keep going to Bilderburg because that's the only support she will get, and I guess its all she needs.
  • Hillary... KG 2012/05/08 19:50:02
    HillaryLover
    Hillary Clinton will run in 2016 and Hillary Clinton will win in 2016. Get used to it.
  • KG Hillary... 2012/05/08 20:58:11
    KG
    +1
    Of course she will, the puppet masters already told her and Obama when they went to the Bilderburg council in 2008. Remember when the media couldn't find them for two days? Add that to the fact that most Americans just repeat the twisted propaganda that turn lies to truth.
  • DavidK Hillary... 2012/05/09 18:54:03
    DavidK
    we've had our share of libs for a few hundred years! Believe me, no woman progressive will be elected!
  • marylou5 2012/05/08 16:49:06
    no
    marylou5
    +3
    Good grief!
    Why would anyone with a brain support her?
  • Hillary... marylou5 2012/05/08 19:52:43
    HillaryLover
    +1
    My goodness!
    Why would anyone with a brain not support Hillary Clinton? Why did anyone who claims to have a brain vote for Hoover, Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes? Hillary Clinton 2016.
  • marylou5 Hillary... 2012/05/09 00:36:10
    marylou5
    +1
    It would take me all day and half of tomorrow to give you all the documented facts why only the brain dead would vote for miss hillary.

    Google it yourself...! I don't waste my time on those who can't research and think for themselves!
    Have a nice day!
  • Common Sense Conservative 2012/05/08 16:38:37
    no
    Common Sense Conservative
    +3
    Not only NO, but HELL NO!!!
  • Hillary... Common ... 2012/05/08 19:53:18
    HillaryLover
    Not only YES, but HELL YES!!!!
  • Common ... Hillary... 2012/05/09 19:32:25
    Common Sense Conservative
    Thanks for the backing.
  • ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA* 2012/05/08 16:37:19
    no
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +4
    No Doubt about it...Hillary is one very smart Woman...
    But, her Brains are geared to Socialism...At Any Cost hillary clinto socialist
  • Hillary... ReconMa... 2012/05/08 19:54:31
    HillaryLover
    HILLARY CLINTON 2016. Get used to it right-wingers.
  • ReconMa... Hillary... 2012/05/08 21:58:06
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Glad you think so...
    ROMNEY...SECOND TERM....Get Use To It ASSBOT-LIB's
  • Hillary... ReconMa... 2012/05/08 23:17:20
    HillaryLover
    +1
    Hillary Clinton is a great American patriot. She is also the greatest American woman politician of her generation, and she is second to no one. It's looks as if you too are a patriot. Thank you for your service to our country.
  • ReconMa... Hillary... 2012/05/08 23:23:54
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    We agree to disagree...
    Thank you...
  • John BNO 2012/05/08 16:35:36
    Undecided
    John BNO
    Tudie, I would really have to listen to what she has to offer before I could really decide to back her or not. Presently there is no reason why I wouldn't support her. Unfortunately, I think she has made it quite clear that she has no intentions of running in 2016.
  • ant0n1us 2012/05/08 16:33:05
    Other
    ant0n1us
    +1
    Hillary Rodham Clinton has two key problems in my mind. First, she is a puppet of the radical neo-Zionists in the US (Sheldon Adelman) and Israel (Likud), effectively making her ineffective as a leader with interests in the United States of America. Second, Ms. Clinton is associated with fascists in the former Clinton Administration, including Al Gore and Madeline Albright. Madeline Albright proved to be so crazy about the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq that she said on TV that "killing 200,000 Iraqi children (by sanctions) is just the price of getting rid of Saddam Hussein. Albright and Gore invented the program called Extreme Rendition, a CIA-based program in which people were kidnapped in the US, flown to torture-friendly nations like Libya, and tortured. There is a great Reese Witherspoon film about this ("Rendition") which has been suppressed by the right wing in the Democratic Party. rendition witherspoon
  • ant0n1us ant0n1us 2012/05/08 18:23:59
    ant0n1us
    I would personally like to see Michelle Obama get into national politics. She is very intelligent, well-spoken, and has a vision about families, children, health, diet, and exercise that are very progressive, and if implemented, could save the USA in billions of healthcare costs. health diet exercise progressive implemented save usa billions healthcare costs
  • Hillary... ant0n1us 2012/05/08 19:55:51
    HillaryLover
    HILLARY CLINTON 2016. Michelle Obama? C'mon, get real.
  • Angus ant0n1us 2012/05/08 21:19:31
    Angus
    Oh pleeasssseeee. Now I just want to throw up.
  • c.ruth93 2012/05/08 16:22:14
    None of the above
    c.ruth93
    She's not running ever again. She's moving on, trying to find different ways to help her country.

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