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If Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2016 Will you support her ?

Tudie BN 2012/05/07 14:28:26
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  • MkB 2012/05/08 06:12:18
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    MkB
    +36
    Been there, tried to do that in 2008.

    Amusingly ironic that as a young Republican Clinton discovered electoral fraud against Richard Nixon in South Side Chicago. Ground zero area for voter fraud and home of Barack Obama.

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  • Jakedog intoler... 2012/05/14 02:27:33
    Jakedog
    +1
    Pow, you're dead!
  • intoler... Jakedog 2012/05/21 12:59:34
    intolerantrwj
    .... can't put a value on what a friend will do for ya' < s >
  • MR. 2012/05/09 21:39:23
    no
    MR.
    NEVER! (The same answer I gave for, Michelle Obama! Let's please get on "the same page" people! Thank you.)
  • clyde 2012/05/09 21:00:45
    no
    clyde
    +3
    No thank you. If Romney wins the economy will kick ass. If the economy kicks ass she will not run.
  • merlins... clyde 2012/05/09 21:53:48
    merlinskiss
    +2
    Hello! The economy is already coming back and has been for some time. What isn't coming back even with Romney is the middle and working class jobs needed to create the demand to launch new companies. That is where jobs come from. Housing is also poised to come back sometime next year from the market analysis being done regardless of who the president is.
  • clyde merlins... 2012/05/09 23:26:29
    clyde
    +3
    I am in the housing industry. I wish you knew what you were talking about.
  • merlins... clyde 2012/05/10 01:10:43
    merlinskiss
    +1
    It's very simple. The street and other investors are looking at the bottom of the real estate market. They don't base their evaluations on what people say but more on what they expect will happen based on demand. As some jobs come back, some loans will be made and the housing market will see an upturn. The question is how fast will it be and when exactly will it start. That is being refined daily but 2013 looks to be it right now. Do a search, the data is there if you care to seek it. But don't ask me to do it for you. I won't.
  • clyde merlins... 2012/05/10 01:45:10 (edited)
    clyde
    +2
    I pay a lot of money to two companies who research the housing market. This is not meant to demean your effort to be optimistic, but your opinion is not shared by the experts.
  • merlins... clyde 2012/05/10 13:13:38
    merlinskiss
    +1
    I invest. And I look at it from that standpoint only. And could care less about so called "experts". Real estate (including housing) is alive and well in some places. For example, there is a boom in apartment construction around Kansas City. e shall see in about a year or so what pans out. Follow the investment money.
  • clyde merlins... 2012/05/11 01:59:35
    clyde
    +2
    Good luck to you and I wish you well with your investments.
  • merlins... clyde 2012/05/15 17:02:17
    merlinskiss
    +1
    Thanks. This little downturn we just had raked it in. Now have to buy back before it goes up. ;-)
  • Janet C K clyde 2012/05/10 01:47:04
    Janet C K
    +2
    You're right- the other guy is wrong. We move a bit because of my husband's job, if Obama is re-elected, we will not buy- we will rent. Obama was one of those lawyers who worked for ACORN to sue banks for "discriminatory" lending---because banks didn't want to give loans to people purchasing properties who were high risk, or buying in a high risk area. So they flooded the market with buyers with subprime loans-- backed by the American Government courtesy of Barney Frank (dem), Maxine Waters (dem), and Meeks (dem). They BRAGGED in 1998 how these NINJA (no income,no job, no assets) loans were going to "solve the lack of homeownership for the disadvantaged". Well- you probably know all this. Anyway, why argue with people who ignore and make excuses for the man who promised to be "different". He's pretty much doing what lawyers do, he tells them what to think and they think it. All because he's so pretty and sounds so good when he talks. Cult of personally.
  • clyde Janet C K 2012/05/10 02:19:57 (edited)
    clyde
    +3
    I can't disagree with anything you posted. Renting a home is not a bad option. Even though interest rates
    for long term mortgages are very low why borrow to purchase an asset which could still drop in value depending on the supply in your area?
  • clyde Janet C K 2012/05/10 02:31:07
    clyde
    +3
    It is never a good idea to lend money to someone who is not going to pay it back. The risks were deminimus due to the complacency of the sub prime industry's belief that the mortgage - backed securities were growing safer every day because of the screaming demand and no foreseeable end to rising values.
  • MIA merlins... 2012/06/02 16:27:40
    MIA
    What planet are you from THE WISHING REAL HARD PLANT?
  • Marshal Artz 2012/05/09 20:42:43
    Yes
    Marshal Artz
    +3
    Yes, I will vote for her, with out a doubt. If she runs, she will win.
  • Twiligh... Marshal... 2012/05/09 20:54:36
    Twilight Fan
    +2
    I sure hope she doesn't win.
  • Marshal... Twiligh... 2012/05/10 19:50:53
    Marshal Artz
    +2
    Hope , won't help. Not even prayer will help. What do you have against her? She is well educated,knows how this country works and a great personality. Many more plus's than minus's.
  • Tudie BN Marshal... 2012/05/09 21:15:24
    Tudie BN
    +1
    Thanks Marshal Ariz !
  • intoler... Marshal... 2012/05/09 21:54:42
    intolerantrwj
    +1
    .... there's still time for therapy < s >
  • Marshal... intoler... 2012/05/10 19:52:28
    Marshal Artz
    +3
    And you probably need it, go for it.
  • intoler... Marshal... 2012/05/21 13:01:16
    intolerantrwj
    .... well, tried it and the Doc says .... ' Therapy won't help you ... send them and I'll try to cure 'em ' < s >
  • Bali 2012/05/09 20:07:41
    no
    Bali
    +1
    she already had her two terms
  • davyd god loving patriot 2012/05/09 18:05:15
    no
    davyd god loving patriot
    +1
    Hell Bubba did'nt support Hillary "Ma Kettle" Clinton when Monica was around. Makes sense first a bast@rd then a bit@h, but then the left never cared who ran for office
  • wgossett99 2012/05/09 17:41:21
    Yes
    wgossett99
    +3
    I was pro-Hillary over Obama in the first palce. I still think she would make an excellent President.
  • Tudie BN wgossett99 2012/05/09 21:16:30
    Tudie BN
    Thanks wgossett99 ! : )
  • brenda 2012/05/09 17:03:34
  • Tudie BN brenda 2012/05/09 17:28:07
    Tudie BN
    Thanks brenda ! : )
  • WankerBait 2012/05/09 16:35:47
    Yes
    WankerBait
    +2
    I did before, and will again ...
  • Tudie BN WankerBait 2012/05/09 17:28:26
    Tudie BN
    Thanks Wanker Bait !
  • SneakyPete 2012/05/09 16:12:27
    Other
    SneakyPete
    +2
    Doubt that she will run.....
  • Tudie BN SneakyPete 2012/05/09 17:28:46
    Tudie BN
    Thanks Sneaky Pete !
  • Jeremiah 2012/05/09 15:57:59
    Yes
    Jeremiah
    +6
    Yes, definitely. I supported her in 2008, but she lost the nomination. She swallowed her pride and became a good Secretary of State for the man she opposed in the primaries. This time she will support him from the beginning, and so will Bill, who will be a valuable asset to Obama's re-election campaign.

    I don't see anyone standing in her way in 2016. Obama will be finishing his second term and will support her, and she will always have Bill in her corner. No one in the GOP will have a chance.

    Her running mate? In the American tradition of sons following fathers in high office, Ron Reagan would be an excellent choice.
  • Tudie BN Jeremiah 2012/05/09 17:29:07
    Tudie BN
    +1
    Thanks Jeremiah !
  • Jeremiah Tudie BN 2012/05/09 18:09:52
    Jeremiah
    +1
    My pleasure.
  • Janet C K Jeremiah 2012/05/10 02:16:54 (edited)
    Janet C K
    +1
    It was SO messed up in 2008, when Obama nurtured the notion that Hillary meant to diminish the work of MLK Jr. during the 2008 primary with her criticism of Obama's ability to bring Congress together to get things done. Hell, she was right! Why doesn't he tell Harry Reid to stop blocking bills from being voted on? Will we support this "approach" if we lose the Senate- and cry like children because we can do it but they can't? Are we that short sighted? I don't understand this? If we are not the obstructionists, why do we not allow a vote and stand by whatever proper vote members take? All I hear is talk about the Republicans- when are we going to take responsibilty for not passing a budget? Bill RAN on balancing the national debt! Instead of prioritizing now we're going to add FREE contraception on the backs of employers? Why not a nominal copay? I just think Hillary was right. This game playing just pits both parties against each other. If (like Hillary said) Lyndon Johnson could get racist leaning men back in the days of civil protests, to vote for civil rights- why can't Obama personally go and visit and call members of Congress--DAILY-- if he needs to, to put forth the effort to demonstrate that he CARES about cooperation? I just think it was wrong- consider...
    It was SO messed up in 2008, when Obama nurtured the notion that Hillary meant to diminish the work of MLK Jr. during the 2008 primary with her criticism of Obama's ability to bring Congress together to get things done. Hell, she was right! Why doesn't he tell Harry Reid to stop blocking bills from being voted on? Will we support this "approach" if we lose the Senate- and cry like children because we can do it but they can't? Are we that short sighted? I don't understand this? If we are not the obstructionists, why do we not allow a vote and stand by whatever proper vote members take? All I hear is talk about the Republicans- when are we going to take responsibilty for not passing a budget? Bill RAN on balancing the national debt! Instead of prioritizing now we're going to add FREE contraception on the backs of employers? Why not a nominal copay? I just think Hillary was right. This game playing just pits both parties against each other. If (like Hillary said) Lyndon Johnson could get racist leaning men back in the days of civil protests, to vote for civil rights- why can't Obama personally go and visit and call members of Congress--DAILY-- if he needs to, to put forth the effort to demonstrate that he CARES about cooperation? I just think it was wrong- considering race relations in this country, for him to pull that crap of sympathizing and reverbalizing misperceived ill intent, rubbing salt in the wounds of the past, creating suspicion, among black voters, that Hillary was disrespecting MLK Jr. When she was a huge supporter of him.
    Obama, IF who he claimed he was, could have simply said, "I intend to be a president who inspires like MLk. jr., AND puts forth the effort of Lyndon Johnson- as both men were important in getting civil rights passed!". But, he didn't. He used division to get the black support away from Hillary in a way where we didn't question even if maybe she had a valid point? We were so brainwashed that all we could do is worry about how others misperceived a very valid point! (it was right before the South Carolina primary, and she was leading). But I guess that was a taste of how he handles things, and I guess everyone except me is cool with that. Hillary deserves a public apology from him. Her criticism was PROPHETIC.
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  • Jeremiah Janet C K 2012/05/10 02:53:06
    Jeremiah
    +1
    Hillary and Obama were locked in a primary fight in 2008, so they naturally took shots at each other. It was like the recently concluded GOP primary season, where everyone took shots at Romney. You will notice it did not stop Hillary from working closely with Obama on foreign policy.

    Why don't you tell the House Republicans to send over a money bill that doesn't include more tax cuts for the rich and slashing programs for the poor? So far, every budget they send over is the Ryan plan, which is unacceptable to the Senate, and to most working Americans. If they decide to be reasonable, the Senate will work with them.
  • Janet C K Jeremiah 2012/05/13 07:07:41
    Janet C K
    +1
    So you'll agree that since Obama WILL NOT LEAD, and ask Senate Dems to do a budget, or do anything unless they get their way, since the House is likely to remain Republican, and Obama WON'T lead like Lyndon Johnson, there's no point to keeping Obama unless you want nothing to get done like the first two years when he had a supermajority- right? Face it, 57 Billion, raised by tax increases- THAT DEMS REFUSED TO VOTE FOR IN OBAMA'S BUDGET (not even one!), still would never fix the problem of overspending! Unemployment comp changed from 16 weeks to 99 weeks, has been a horrible mistake. Programs to help people keep their home, encouraging them to default to qualify for help- a horrible mistake since it only helped 2%, and gave those who could've paid a bad credit history & a foreclosure- not to mention created a flood of houses on the market dropping the value of housing.... A President that runs the government on theory, instead of experience, has made the mess. Otherwise IF it were as bad as he claims it was--- he would have had the common sense not to throw healthcare into the mix to complicate matters. Any experienced perso also would have been in touch with reality to see no one- not even Obama followers- could/would run out and create a green energy market- buying Volts...
    So you'll agree that since Obama WILL NOT LEAD, and ask Senate Dems to do a budget, or do anything unless they get their way, since the House is likely to remain Republican, and Obama WON'T lead like Lyndon Johnson, there's no point to keeping Obama unless you want nothing to get done like the first two years when he had a supermajority- right? Face it, 57 Billion, raised by tax increases- THAT DEMS REFUSED TO VOTE FOR IN OBAMA'S BUDGET (not even one!), still would never fix the problem of overspending! Unemployment comp changed from 16 weeks to 99 weeks, has been a horrible mistake. Programs to help people keep their home, encouraging them to default to qualify for help- a horrible mistake since it only helped 2%, and gave those who could've paid a bad credit history & a foreclosure- not to mention created a flood of houses on the market dropping the value of housing.... A President that runs the government on theory, instead of experience, has made the mess. Otherwise IF it were as bad as he claims it was--- he would have had the common sense not to throw healthcare into the mix to complicate matters. Any experienced perso also would have been in touch with reality to see no one- not even Obama followers- could/would run out and create a green energy market- buying Volts, Solyndra products, or Ener1 products. The technology is too expensive, and not practical for living in the city with nowhere to plug in. To many ambitions, no ability to prioritize based on market demand and consumer credit/funds.
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  • Jeremiah Janet C K 2012/05/13 16:08:39 (edited)
    Jeremiah
    +1
    All budgets must originate in the House of Representatives, according to the Constitution. The president can propose one, but then everyone must wait until something is passed by the House before the Senate can do anything.

    The House keeps passing the Ryan budget intact, and the Senate refused to rubber-stamp it. The House will not act on any revisions sent over from the Senate, since they are hung up on their ideology, which dictates more tax cuts for the rich and slashes in programs for the elderly and poor women and children.

    There has not been a tax increase during Obama's presidency. In fact, 40% of ARRA was a middle-class tax cut, Bush cuts were extended, and the current federal income tax rates are the lowest since 1950, when Truman was president.

    No president since Lyndon Johnson has led like he did, because no one understands power like Johnson did. He was a southern Democrat who got the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act passed by the Congress.

    That, my friend, is leadership. Obama would do well to study Robert Caro's books on LBJ instead of referring to Ronald Reagan, who basically was an actor playing a role.

    A suggestion: Your posts would be easier to read if you broke them into paragraphs.
  • Jakedog Jeremiah 2012/05/14 02:32:31
    Jakedog
    +1
    I like the idea of Ron running he has a great head on his shoulders and brings a lot of knowledge to the table.
    Besides all that he would finally give the Reagan name some legitimacy.

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