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IF HEALTHCARE LAW IS A TAX......IS IT NOW INVALID?

Yo'Adrienne..AFCL 2012/06/30 16:32:57
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This rather smart, articulate man breaks down the Affordable Care Act ruling by the Supreme Court and looks at why the determination that the law is a tax may make it invalid.
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  • Striker 2012/06/30 17:29:32
    Striker
    +4
    WE don't get to decide crap like this. THEY decide for us.
    And so it shall be for so long as you allow yourself to be Governed.

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  • gr8punkin 2012/07/02 16:20:29
    gr8punkin
    This is going to get interesting!
  • BackWoodsMike 2012/07/01 01:41:52 (edited)
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    SCOTUS ruled that the mandate could survive as a tax, but Obama still insists (even after the ruling) that the mandate is NOT a tax, therefore if I were the States, I would challenge Obama to prove that it is not a tax, then ignore the mandate because it does not fit the definition of the ruling.

    We can turn this lemon into lemonade by proving Obama and the liberals in Congress lied every step of the way in passing Obamacare.

    Since the libs originated the bill in the Senate, citing the “commerce clause” for justification, logically the mandate does not satisfy the exception in the ruling, stating it being valid as a tax.
  • Yo'Adri... BackWoo... 2012/07/01 11:58:37
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    BEST ADVICE I've read today! BOOM!
  • ACE 2012/06/30 22:25:58
    ACE
    yes
  • DuncanONeil 2012/06/30 22:16:36
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    It was invalid from the beginning!
  • TuringsChild 2012/06/30 21:51:19
    TuringsChild
    +1
    Invalid, yes. But that never stopped Authoritarians from applying it anyway.
  • Yo'Adri... Turings... 2012/06/30 23:18:42 (edited)
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    Exactly.......look at the crap that has taken place during this administration.....and no one calls anyone on it......they all get a "pass".
  • Manster 2012/06/30 20:56:28
    Manster
    If congress voted for it and passed it, then it is valid,because they are the branch of government responsible for taxes and internal revenue service
  • Turings... Manster 2012/06/30 21:53:27
    TuringsChild
    The IRS is unconstitutional. The 'amendment' that allowed it was passed in the dark of night in a highly questionable session.
  • Yo'Adri... Turings... 2012/06/30 23:20:25
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    BOOM...perfect analogy!
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/30 20:20:13
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I hope so, it is one hell of a mess that should never be implemented, that is for sure.
  • Yo'Adri... WhereIs... 2012/06/30 20:40:39
  • DJL 2012/06/30 20:16:00
    DJL
    +2
    Roberts took down Obamacare and fired up conservatives at the same time.
  • Yo'Adri... DJL 2012/06/30 20:53:01 (edited)
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    Have to say,,,,,,,initially, everyone thought he rode us down the rapids on a raft....but maybe there is more to this....Now that it is a tax....maybe that negates the ruling.....as they weren't
    ruling on a TAX......and Roberts changed the rules..... Dunno....Just know for sure it has
    motivated us...in a big way....... and that is a good thing. Great comment...thanks.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/30 20:15:45
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
    Yes. It originated in the Senate, not the House.

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  • stormy rae 2012/06/30 20:12:21
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/06/30 18:55:25
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    I love the word 'INVALIDATE" DON'T YOU?
  • Yo'Adri... ☆ Queen... 2012/06/30 20:55:07
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    It's a word that the OBAMA administration has made famous!
  • Barbara Hasler 2012/06/30 18:05:09 (edited)
    Barbara Hasler
    +2
    I have often wondered about the constitutionality of the health care mess because of the obscure rule some representative came up with to avoid the constitutional procedure. There was no input allowed from the Republicans so it is not actually representative of we, the people.

    It is up to the electorate to smarten up and get rid of the current regime and get a group of leaders that can repeal the tax and let the healthcare mess rot on the vine. If people quit looking for the free lunch and face reality this sorry mess can be put behind us with the sweep of a pen.
  • ed 2012/06/30 18:02:24
    ed
    +3
    one hellava video my friend.
  • ☆ Queen... ed 2012/06/30 18:55:48
    ☆ QueenAline
    +3
    YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN....GREAT VIDEO YO.
  • Yo'Adri... ☆ Queen... 2012/06/30 20:56:21
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    thanks queen....
  • Yo'Adri... ed 2012/07/01 12:00:39 (edited)
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    Thanks........pass it on!
  • Striker 2012/06/30 17:29:32
    Striker
    +4
    WE don't get to decide crap like this. THEY decide for us.
    And so it shall be for so long as you allow yourself to be Governed.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/30 17:20:04
    jackolantyrn356
    +4
    Yes it is invalid.... The Turd was produced by the Senate and not the House. Comrade Roberts where are You???????????????
  • DJL jackola... 2012/06/30 20:19:23
    DJL
    +3
    Roberts is the one that confirmed it was a tax. He is brilliant.
  • ed DJL 2012/06/30 20:44:17
    ed
    +1
    and to think we almost hung him out to dry
  • Yo'Adri... DJL 2012/06/30 20:57:42
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    You could be right.....I'm waiting to see ....before I go balistic!
  • Yo'Adri... jackola... 2012/06/30 20:56:56
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    Boom Jack.....!
  • HarleyCharley 2012/06/30 17:04:54
    HarleyCharley
    +1
    it should be...
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/30 16:40:26
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Nope, it can only be invalid if 1. it is applied and a person pays it; 2. It is challenged in the court system, 3. it goes to the SC and is declared unconstitutional. It could be challenged as a direct tax or questioning whether Congress can tax people for not doing something or whether Congress can tax behavior.
  • jackola... Jackie ... 2012/06/30 17:22:27 (edited)
    jackolantyrn356
    +4
    scuse me the Constitution says that Tax Proposals HAVE TO BE MADE IN THE HOUSE....(shall I tell you chapter and verse). No Court Challenges It is on paper and the ink has dried.
  • Jackie ... jackola... 2012/06/30 17:46:54
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    House bill had it as a tax - Senate bill, theoretically and so stated by Reid, was an enhancement/amended /change of House bill (as with all bills) - this is where verbiage was changed to a "penalty", voted on and passed back to the House. And the rest is history.

    Does not matter what we think, this is what it is.
  • Yo'Adri... Jackie ... 2012/06/30 20:58:23
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    interesting.
  • Yo'Adri... jackola... 2012/06/30 23:25:24
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    Ok..thanks....that might be te LOOP HOLE.......is that what I understand to be the
    isssue here? It must originate in the HOUSE????

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