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If he were president at the time, would obama have invaded Afghanistan?

keymanjim 2012/05/01 13:41:01
Yes, it would have been a gutsy call.
No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
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  • Elephant Lord 2012/05/02 04:00:25
    I like hot dogs
    Elephant Lord
    +1
    Although corn dogs are also good.
  • merlinskiss 2012/05/01 23:21:40 (edited)
    I like hot dogs
    merlinskiss
    +1
    And somehow, he does seem to have some amount of (don't ask how much) brains...
  • Ron in Oregon 2012/05/01 21:33:38
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    Ron in Oregon
    +2
    I would have voted for I like hamburgers, but the pink slime got to me.
  • Mr.Steve 2012/05/01 18:43:58
  • soland 2012/05/01 18:05:49
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    soland
    +3
    he really didnt want to invade afghanistan at all, but he knows that America is not blind to his simple mindedness its crazy how pathetic he is as a leader. Im not saying he is a bad guy because i know he is a good father. but a leader he is not.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/05/01 15:19:56
    Yes, it would have been a gutsy call.
    Rebel Yell
    Probably since that was the training ground for some of the terrorists. He would not have tried to ' shock and awe' Iraq... which had nothing to do with 9/11. But Cheney can smell oil from thousands of miles away.
  • keymanjim Rebel Yell 2012/05/01 15:37:33
    keymanjim
    +2
    Yes, we are all just swimming in Iraq oil right now.
    The Iraq-9/11 meme was perpetuated by the left. No one of any official capacity said that they had anything in common.
  • john Kills keymanjim 2012/05/01 16:29:54
    john Kills
    +4
    These idiots are still saying we went there for oil. LOL. If we wanted the oil we would have just seized the oil wells. I think we should do just that and take enough oil to at least pay the American people back for the tax dollars spent there. So how about it idiots? Where is all the oil we went to Iraq for?
  • abubinc... john Kills 2012/05/01 17:19:27
    abubincrazy
    +3
    And Afghanistan has NO oil.
    It's ludicrous!
  • apachehellfire65 2012/05/01 15:16:53
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    apachehellfire65
    +4
    there would have never been a Afghan or Iraqi war. obummer would still be on his freaking knee's apologizing to the world for us selfish Americans polluting the atmosphere with the smoke from the twin towers. and the heartless way we poisoned the ground with its debris and dead body's!
  • mwg0735 2012/05/01 14:57:14
  • Tully 2012/05/01 14:39:13
    Yes, it would have been a gutsy call.
    Tully
    Probably. He would not have gone to Iraq though. No connections to war contractors. Not as much as Bush anyway.
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 14:50:59
    keymanjim
    +2
    Ah, so obama would have allowed saddam to continue to thumb his nose at the UN and ignore the cease fire agreement.
    Good to know.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 16:24:56
    Tully
    May have seen it as pointless as it ended up being. If it was that big of a deal, it would have been a unilateral agreement, like the first gulf war. Not a rush to war on flemsy evidence, that ended up being admitedly made up.
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 17:14:43
    keymanjim
    There only was one gulf war. The invasion of Iraq was a continuation of that.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 17:20:36
    Tully
    You mean the contiuation had a UN concesus like the first?
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 17:32:17
    keymanjim
    That would be impossible since saddam had used the oil for "food" money to bribe certain members into inaction.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 21:18:46
    Tully
    So we went in ileagally, got it.
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 22:11:26
    keymanjim
    Yes, and all the rest of the world bandied together and fought against us.

    Actually, no. UN resolution 1441 made the invasion legal. Sorry.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/02 12:53:21
    Tully
    I'm not going to debate this tired argument. I'll state facts.
    -False intelligence was admitted by Iraqi exiles, stating Iraq had weapons of mass destruction
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4...
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/...
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor...
    http://www.military.com/news/...
    Enjoy!
  • Red Branch 2012/05/01 14:36:13
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    Red Branch
    +4
    Odds favor a series of apologies.
    Obama does not make gutsy calls as he voting record as an IL state senator proves with his numerous 'present' votes.
  • Savior 2012/05/01 14:19:01
    Yes, it would have been a gutsy call.
    Savior
    +2
    I wasn't against going after those responsible for 9/11 but looking at how long Afghanistan has lasted, and they aren't a super power I'm against it now.

    Obama is just another establishment goon.
  • Red Branch Savior 2012/05/01 14:37:29
    Red Branch
    +2
    The place should have been carpet bombed. We should have put troops in there to clean up the mess and still been home before Christmas.
  • abubinc... Red Branch 2012/05/01 17:17:41
    abubincrazy
    They hide across the border in our "ally' Pakistan.
    Much as I agree with your sentiment, carpet-bombing wouldn't have worked.
  • gkirmani abubinc... 2012/05/01 18:30:18
    gkirmani
    HOW silly and obnoxiuosly hated mindset you have
    shame on you................ Life of people is nothing for u

    certainly you dont have sane American mind Absolutely insensitive and selfserving useless fellow who can kill fellow human beings for his false alter ego

    may be you are not american
  • abubinc... gkirmani 2012/05/01 19:40:29
    abubincrazy
    +1
    May be yew are ESL stewdint?
    The Taliban are homicidal maniacs, and they brutally oppressed the Afghan People.
    And they aided and abetted international terrorism.
    ANY punishment they receive, they deserve.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/05/01 14:14:59
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    Rusty Shackleford
    +3
    Not a chance in Hell.
  • abubincrazy 2012/05/01 14:06:33
    No, he would have apologized for making them angry at us.
    abubincrazy
    +4
    His true mentality is that it's America's fault the jihadis keep murdering innocent civilians.
    I really think that, outside of facing an election, he would ignore what the American People want(he really is arrogant enough to think he knows better than we do), and seek to appease those baby-hanging lunatics.
  • gkirmani abubinc... 2012/05/01 18:32:19
    gkirmani
    Dont blame others look into yourselves..............what YOU sow, SO shall ya reap..............SOw the seeds of love and see the change

    solution is not war but honest dialogues
  • abubinc... gkirmani 2012/05/01 21:00:36
    abubincrazy
    +1
    The Taliban are religious zealots. Their religion is oppressive, abusive to women, and encourages violence toward any who do not belong to their religion.
    There is no "dialogue" with crazy people such as them.
    I remember those little maggots calling me the "children of America" in a condescending message threatening all Americans.
    If THEY will not reform their murderous ways, THEY must be eliminated.
  • Grabitz 2012/05/01 13:49:24
    Yes, it would have been a gutsy call.
    Grabitz
    +1
    I think he would have did a hit and run as many times as it would have took like he did getting Osama instead of spending us into oblivion starting 3 wars .
  • keymanjim Grabitz 2012/05/01 13:53:50
    keymanjim
    +3
    The entire country was controlled by the taliban. Doing a hit and run wouldn't have changed anything.
    Besides, the cost of the wars in Afghanistan AND Iraq since 2001 is less than obama overspent last year alone.
    What was the third war?
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 14:36:52
    Tully
    A trillion dollars a year is what the wars cost.
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 14:53:25
    keymanjim
    +1
    $1.3 trillion over 11 years.

    http://costofwar.com/en/
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 16:44:56
    Tully
    I was including the War on Terror in general. Future veteran care, death benefits, rebuilding, deployment, lost equipment (we left billions in equipment in Iraq), contractor payments, the socialized medicine and education we're paying for Iraqi and Afghan people, construction costs, actual pay vs. combat pay etc.... It adds up and some of the estimates are admittedly low with inflation kicking in.
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 17:15:33
    keymanjim
    Fine. Show us the breakdown in costs for all that.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 17:29:20
    Tully
    http://threetrilliondollarwar...
    http://www.hawaiireporter.com...

    “… the total direct and indirect costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed $6 trillion…. That figure comes from combining congressional appropriations for the wars over the past decade ($1.3 trillion), additional spending by the Pentagon related to the wars ($326 – $652 billion), interest so far on Pentagon war appropriations, all of which was borrowed ($185 billion), immediate medical costs for veterans ($32 billion), war related foreign aid ($74 billion), homeland security spending ($401 billion), projected medical costs for veterans through 2051 ($589 – $934 billion), social costs to military families ($295 – $400 billion), projected Pentagon war spending and foreign aid as troops wind down in the two war zones ($453 billion); and interest payments on all this spending through 2020 ($1 trillion).”
  • keymanjim Tully 2012/05/01 17:35:39
    keymanjim
    They are trying to sell you a book.
    Seems like they are applying costs not directly related to the wars to the tally.
  • Tully keymanjim 2012/05/01 21:21:08
    Tully
    Ron Paul writing a story in a Hawaii paper is selling a book?
    All of the number quoted above are on the DOD's budget site, except the projected interest payments.

    Its hard to believe, but we effed up. It happens.
  • Grabitz keymanjim 2012/05/01 14:40:10
    Grabitz
    I believe a carpet bombing would have worked equally as well perhaps better . The third is the war on the middle class .

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