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If Canada Bans Spanking, Should U.S. Do the Same?

AdriHead 2012/09/07 18:41:00
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Yes, that's right: Canada wants to ban spanking. America's northern neighbors currently have a "spanking law," which allows physical punishment toward kids, but Canadian medical experts are calling for a repeal of the century-old law. Do you think spanking should be banned? Or is it a decision that should be left to parents?

SHINE.YAHOO.COM reports:
Canada's top medical journal has called for the repeal of that country's 120-year-old "spanking law." In a strongly worded editorial published on September 4, John Fletcher, the editor-in-chief of the Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ), called physical punishment an "anachronistic excuse for poor parenting." The editorial accompanies a meta-analysis of 20 years of research about the ill effects of spanking, led by Joan Durant PhD of the University of Manitoba, first published in February and reprinted in the current volume of the CMAJ.

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  • nightcrawler2005 2012/09/07 19:03:53
    No
    nightcrawler2005
    +25
    As a Canadian Canada will not ban spanking. These quack doctors are trying to say it screws kids up psychologically later in life but since most adults were probably spanked once or twice when they were kids know that that conclusion is complete BS.

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  • J321 2012/12/07 19:13:24
    No
    J321
    +1
    I still get spankings and I need them sometimes! It's just a punishment for doing wrong!
  • ShelaKay0523 2012/09/16 21:56:56
    No
    ShelaKay0523
    The U.S. should make up it's own mind. I think that whether or not spanking is effective depends on the kid. I don't think that spanking should be done to small children, and I don't think it should be done hard enough to leave a mark. Spanking can easily enter the realm of child abuse, just like any other form of punishment. Time-outs can lead to neglect, etc. If a parent finds spanking to be effective in teaching his/her child proper behavior, then by all means. I think that other, non-contact forms of punishment should be used first, like time-outs, and then spanking should be used when those punishments fail after being given sufficient time to create results. I don't agree with people who start spanking their kids young, before their kids are really able to understand what they're doing wrong, and I don't agree with people who use spanking as the only or main form of punishment. If you're spanking your kids several times a day, or spanking them to the point where it's leaving a mark or causing any amount of emotional trauma, then it's just too much. Every kid is different. Some kids thrive with it, some kids are damaged by it, and still others are unaffected.
  • Scream 2012/09/16 05:43:17 (edited)
  • Isabella 2012/09/12 21:58:40
    Yes
    Isabella
    +2
    My father "spanked" me....He left me with physical, emotional, and mental scars since I was little, as I grew older, I found out that what he was doing to my family was not in fact "spanking", as he called.... It was abuse, full on abuse. We got involved with DCFS, the police, couselors, and therapists, I was disturbed and scarred, so was my little brother and even my mother (he was hurting her too) and I am still scarred to this day, it has caused alot of problems with my social and relationship part of life... I have gotten better, but I do not beleive in the concept of "spanking", there are so many ways you can discipline a child..... I beleive in discipline and respect big time, for I am a conservative and a christian but I have learned that is not the way to discipline a child at all. "Spanking" goes way to far....

    It is not just "spanking", it's abuse.
  • ClintAustin26 2012/09/12 20:35:55
    No
    ClintAustin26
    I got spanked as a kid, and I freakin' deserved it. You can't raise kids with no consequences. Time outs and junk like that don't cut it. You can't send a kid to his/her room anymore. They have TV's and Playstations and smart phones to entertain them. It's not what it once was. I saw this line the other day and it pretty much sums it up perfectly:

    why people suck
  • Steve 2012/09/12 19:33:17
    No
    Steve
    +1
    There is a difference between properly spanking and child abuse.
  • conservyT 2012/09/12 18:41:20
    No
    conservyT
    +1
    ABUSE should be BANNED!
  • Diddley Squat 2012/09/12 18:14:14
    No
    Diddley Squat
    I can't think of anything more stupid - a whole generation of undisciplined kids. Eeek! Does anybody out there really think "time out" makes sense?

    Spanking should be done and under conditions where children know why they are being spanked, what they should have done instead, and that the discipline will be repeated if the disobedience is.

    If it's done simply out of anger or frustration it does no good.

    By the way, never threaten to spank and not carry through on it. But the more willing a parent is to spank a child the less they have to do it.
  • Robin 2012/09/12 18:10:58
    No
    Robin
    +1
    Canada eats horses. Should we?
  • lynn 2012/09/12 17:18:31
    No
    lynn
    Absolutely not. This is a prime example of the craziness they call PC running amok and destroying any semblance of common sense in its' wake. I was raised in a time when kids were taught the real differences between right and wrong, and that there were consequences for doing stupid things. When we were in school, we respected the teachers and all the faculty, and if we got ourselves into trouble we usually got a good paddling (which served as a double deterrant, in that it was painful and humiliating). Chances are, we'd get another spanking when we got home, if our parents knew of our infraction. Discipline was not overdone, but it was maintained. We all learned to read and write, to do basic arithmetic, and came out with at least a reasonable understanding of science, history, and acceptable social skills. If we failed, we failed... there was no "feel good" alternative. As a result, most of us turned out to be decent, productive, and responsible citizens. Paddling did not scar us, to the contrary, it built character. My dad was a teacher after I had graduated, and he loved his job. The kids in his class not only respected him, but they liked him. Sadly, after they removed effective discipline options from the schools, students became unruly and routinely challenge...
    Absolutely not. This is a prime example of the craziness they call PC running amok and destroying any semblance of common sense in its' wake. I was raised in a time when kids were taught the real differences between right and wrong, and that there were consequences for doing stupid things. When we were in school, we respected the teachers and all the faculty, and if we got ourselves into trouble we usually got a good paddling (which served as a double deterrant, in that it was painful and humiliating). Chances are, we'd get another spanking when we got home, if our parents knew of our infraction. Discipline was not overdone, but it was maintained. We all learned to read and write, to do basic arithmetic, and came out with at least a reasonable understanding of science, history, and acceptable social skills. If we failed, we failed... there was no "feel good" alternative. As a result, most of us turned out to be decent, productive, and responsible citizens. Paddling did not scar us, to the contrary, it built character. My dad was a teacher after I had graduated, and he loved his job. The kids in his class not only respected him, but they liked him. Sadly, after they removed effective discipline options from the schools, students became unruly and routinely challenged teachers, with no respect and no fear. They became destructive, deliberately tearing up expensive equipment. Dad finally retired early, feeling he had no control of his class, and in reality he didn't. Today we see schools spending five or ten times more than they spent when I was in school per student, and the kids are graduating with very limited education and skills, on a far lower level than we did. I feel this is a direct result of a lack of discipline in both the homes and the schools. Teachers are afraid of their own students. It seems many parents are afraid of their own children. Chaos is running rampant because those who are supposed to be in charge have no allowable tools to maintain order. Such ideas as banning spanking are a mockery of common sense and a recipe for abject failure. On the contrary, perhaps corporal punishment should be a requirement, but first society as a whole must reclaim its' sense of practical right and wrong, otherwise no one will know which actions should merit punishment and which should not. The publishers of this medical journal, and those who authored this article, should be run out of the country, preferably after a good tar and feathering, as it sounds like they coud use a dose of discipline themselves.
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  • Tunnel Vision 2012/09/12 16:48:37
    No
    Tunnel Vision
    ... however, they should get in on that Universal Health Care.
  • gregaj7 2012/09/12 16:32:21
    No
    gregaj7
    Self-moderated.
  • jacktown kid 2012/09/12 15:09:49
    No
    jacktown kid
    +1
    But it is ban in the State of Illinois spanking in schools
  • keverton 2012/09/12 15:03:06
    Yes
    keverton
    +3
    i'm actually shocked at the number of people that believe that hitting you kids is ok.
    now, i know that probably at least half of you are hitting children cause god tells you to do it. and i'm sure that another 25% of you think its ok cause it happened to you and "you turned out fine right?"

    well guess what? IT IS NOT OK !

    IF YOU ARE SPANKING YOUR KIDS IT IS ABUSE..
  • keverton keverton 2012/09/12 15:07:31
    keverton
    +2
    and yes i got spanked at home and school. i'm still scarred and can't believe that people would do these things to little kids.
    just find another for of punishment. take away toys. go to time out. it is just as effective and now you don't have to be a child hitter.
  • Monty keverton 2012/09/12 17:29:30
    Monty
    it's abuse to NOT do it!
  • Owen Banks 2012/09/12 14:46:48
    No
    Owen Banks
    If America bans spanking, how will mistress punish us when we've been naughty?... And we've been VERY naughty.
  • Tim 2012/09/12 12:37:42
    No
    Tim
    Government needs to STAY out of peoples personal live Period! Spare the rod, Spoil the child.
  • rican1372 2012/09/12 11:39:24
    No
    rican1372
    i was spanked as a kid as well as my brother, my sister she made out like a bandit. But we came out of the spankings o.k. we are good parents respectful and productive. I have raised 5 sons he has 4. I think putting all 5 boys together, I have maybe used spanking as a punishment 10 times in 22 yrs. But the fear of the spanking has helped keep them in line. They range in age from 22 to 8. Kids need to know that parents are parents and not the next door buddy.
  • GLaDOS 2012/09/12 09:31:22
    No
    GLaDOS
    +1
    I have an 11 and a 13 year-old. I don't spank often, I don't spank much, however, what little I have done has made them far more respectful toward me when I state that they have crossed a limit.

    That said, I've tried time out. It works, if you're patient, and have the time to watch the child and make sure that they don't move, then reset the whole thing when they do. I also take away privileges, and, for the older one, threaten to unhook the Internet if she doesn't comply.

    All of the methods work, and each is applied, depending on the severity of the infraction.

    Me? I can say for DAMN SURE, that I was far more patient with punishment as a child. So for all the little teens who are doling out parenting advice, there are some children that nothing else works for. I was one of them. I was patient, I was creative, and I could happily stand in a corner, living in my head for 10 or so minutes without it fazing me. Hell, I could have stood in a corner all day, but my parents didn't have that kind of time.
  • BornToBeWild 2012/09/12 07:53:27
    No
    BornToBeWild
    DCF and our government already looks and treats spanking as child abuse so why should we!
  • Carson 2012/09/12 06:36:32
    Yes
    Carson
    +1
    Because if you cant reason with your child then one of you are dull or less my father was born in the 50's and as a child he vowed to never spank his kids. Good luck with your economy.
  • WatchTh... Carson 2012/09/12 07:44:49
    WatchTheRhythm
    +1
    Then again, spanking can be used when "reason" can't correct the child (e.g. when the kid is throwing a tantrum, or can't comprehend your reasons, two common scenarios).
  • Carson WatchTh... 2012/09/13 02:20:15
    Carson
    Why would any child be throwing a tantrum? Because the parents have taught them to do so. And if your child cannot comprehend the reasoning then they fall in the dull or less catagory.
  • Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸 2012/09/12 02:45:42
    No
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    Might as well ban having kids if we can't correct them.
  • Birthpangs 2012/09/12 01:22:32
  • belle 2012/09/11 23:59:03
    No
    belle
    +1
    We don't need Canada to set out laws.
  • Thomas 2012/09/11 22:36:11
    No
    Thomas
    +1
    How the heck is Canada going to uphold that law? Is Big Sister going to install a camera in every child's bedroom and arrest every parent who disciplines thier naughty offspring?
    I think that those who make these silly laws are wasting everybody's time and taxes. Kids get spanked, it's a fact of life. Some kids respond better at the woodshed than in their toy-filled bedroom.
    Now, I don't condone Child Abuse, the beating of a child into submission. But I think that if a kid hurts another kid, or burns your favorite chair to the ground, or does something dramatically wrong, the punishment should fit the crime. Spankings are not meant to harm the child and shouldn't. Growing up is hard. You were born naturally stupid, all children were, but that is no excuse to remain that way (Though most people do all of their lives).
    Part of a parent's mandate is that we punish our kids whenever they do bad things. This is how we force the child to learn and grow.
    Governments are set in place to do the same job for their citizens that parents do for their kids. If I am caught speeding, I am slapped with a fine. If a child is caught giving the dog a haircut, or being a Wallpaper Picasso, they need a little reeducation.
    We just need to realize that parents today were the spanked kids of yesterday. You shouldn't pamper today's kids. Believe me, we mostly all turned out all right, and we were punished, weren't we?
  • Carson Thomas 2012/09/13 02:21:17
  • Thomas Carson 2012/09/19 00:20:37
    Thomas
    Debt is nothing! Our economy is a strange thing. We, as a nation have been told we are 16 trillion dollars in debt, but congress and the politicos don't tell us the whole truth. The United States has a national budget of 77 trillion dollars. We are only 18% in debt.
  • Thomas Thomas 2012/09/19 00:26:09
    Thomas
    Also, I wasn't spanked as a child. The debate about how parents punish kids is moot. In the Southern United States, schools still have the option of "paddling" misbehaving kids. in my own elementary school in Alabama, they had eight sizes of paddle, hanging on the wall of the principal's office.
  • Dave 2012/09/11 22:18:56
    No
    Dave
    We already have way too many spoiled children who have their parents perplexed on how to deal with all the bad behavior.
  • S.M. 2012/09/11 22:16:48
    No
    S.M.
    So glad my kids are already well raised...yes, they were spanked. A parent that doesn't spank when it is needed, is being neglectful! Ban spanking and you will have a horrible society! If you are allowed to kill your child before it is born, and the government allows it, they they should keep on supporting choice and mind their own business unless there is a case of real abuse, not USE!
  • S.M. S.M. 2012/09/11 22:32:58
    S.M.
    I only spanked mine for things they would do that were dangerous, such as running towards or in the street, especially if I yelled STOP and they didn't. Also for acting inappropriately in public or being disrespectful, but usually only if my words failed. They learned quickly and rarely got spanked or in ANY trouble after they were 5 or 6 and never after 8 years old. If most of your kids issues are not under control by age 6...forget it, it will only get worse and you pretty much failed them. And my kids are never violent or angry. Now aged 23, almost 18, almost 15 and 13.
  • Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll 2012/09/11 20:41:08
  • Ninjaman 2012/09/11 20:29:20
    No
    Ninjaman
    +1
    I have no problem with spanking a child... I do have a problem with child abuse however... spanking is merely disciplining a child... i was spanked when i was a child and i deserved it... they need that to learn that there are boundaries in their lives and that certain things wont be tolerated.
  • Margaret Jacobson 2012/09/11 19:37:51
    Yes
    Margaret Jacobson
    I went to 2 elementary schools where I was "despised" !! Those "teachers "from the 3rd to 6th grade "BEAT THE HOLY HELL" out of me. They had my mothers & stepfathers' "BLESSING" to do so !! There are those who "take advantage of their position as head" of the classroom !! I went to 2 parachoil schools !! It left me with feelings of animosity when it comes to "corporal punishment ?""
  • Amy Price 2012/09/11 19:36:16
    Yes
    Amy Price
    +1
    I don't believe in hitting children, not at all. There are other better ways of discipline that are probably more effective and much more moral. Hitting a child teaches them that's okay, and from my experience makes them feel unbelievably worthless for a mistake on their part. Strongly disagree with punishment in this form, actually.
  • rican1372 Amy Price 2012/09/12 11:46:30
    rican1372
    +1
    growing up in a home were spanking was used I have to say: YOUR WRONG.
    I myself have used spanking maybe a 10-12 times in the last 22 yrs (5 boys, 22 to 8). They are all very well adjusted, productive and they know that when they got spanked they deserved it.
  • Amy Price rican1372 2012/09/12 15:26:00
    Amy Price
    No, I am not wrong. An opinion can't be wrong. Perhaps you got off lucky in that it never affected you, but it can and in many cases, does. Having observed the situation in immediate families, I can definetley see that in many cases corporal punishment does indeed have a negative effect and there are indeed better ways. It's an issue of morality I suppose and my morals lie in that I disagree with it completely and I would never do it. Lazy parenting, in my opinion.
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