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If Bush did not author the Patriot Act, who did?

Isma'ila (God has heard)! 2011/01/13 06:07:18
Bush did not author the Patriot Act but he signed it into law.
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  • Theresa 2011/01/13 06:45:40 (edited)
    Theresa
    +10
    That one is easy it was designed by a think tank in 1995It was sponsored by Joe Biden under the Clinton administration. It sat around until it could be implemented!

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  • ScoutLdr 2012/10/26 04:57:58
    ScoutLdr
    "The next year, months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."

    Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as "the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism." ...
    "The next year, months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."

    Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as "the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism." http://news.cnet.com/8301-135...
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  • Mrkando 2011/01/26 05:11:25
    Mrkando
    Viet Dinh has been called a "political pit bull" and "a foot soldier" for Attorney General John Ashcroft. But the 36-year-old author of the Patriot Act prefers to be called an "attendant of freedom."

    In May 2001, the professor of law at Georgetown University was tapped by the Justice Department to work for two years as an assistant attorney general, working primarily on judicial nominations for the department. But three months later the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and Dinh was drafted to work on the USA Patriot Act, a bill that would give the government some of its most controversial surveillance powers. The bill, coupled with the government's subsequent treatment of immigrants and native-born citizens, prompted critics to charge the administration with overthrowing "800 years of democratic tradition."

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  • Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2011/01/26 00:44:13 (edited)
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +1
    In May 2001, the professor of law at Georgetown University was tapped by the Justice Department to work for two years as an assistant attorney general, working primarily on judicial nominations for the department. But three months later the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and Dinh was drafted to work on the USA Patriot Act, a bill that would give the government some of its most controversial surveillance powers. He was just one of several but the date was in question by some.



    George W.Bush Took office in January of 2001
  • Leeaqua 2011/01/25 16:53:49 (edited)
    Leeaqua
    It probably was authored by whoever would benefit the most financially from this invasive legislation. It was rushed thru without hardly anyone reading it. It's bulk made that almost impossible .
  • jacktown kid 2011/01/25 16:42:29
    jacktown kid
    Somebody did didn't they
  • GregGarrett 2011/01/25 06:40:44
    GregGarrett
    the fact of the matter is that it was orrigionally passed into law in October of 2001. The bill had several provisions that were going to sunset in 2005, and many of them had enough support from the people of America and the government that we elected that they signed a new bill into law that kept most of it in place. But what really matters is the person that is completely to blame at that point is the president. He has the power of Veto, and it takes a lot of votes to get around the power of veto. He could have killed it right at the start. He didn't, so if you don't like it, blame him.
  • BadDog 2011/01/25 04:24:09 (edited)
    BadDog
    +1
    Who cares who wrote it, the moron Bush signed it.
  • Charles 2011/01/25 02:18:32 (edited)
  • beachbum 2011/01/16 01:45:27
    beachbum
    +2
    Joe Biden
  • onebad 2011/01/15 08:03:25 (edited)
  • Isma'il... onebad 2011/01/15 08:04:32
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    You do not have the right to call me a liar.
  • GregGar... Isma'il... 2011/01/25 06:34:08
    GregGarrett
    Actually, he does have the right. He may not be correct in saying it, but he has the right to say whatever he wants. Part of being American, people can be wrong, rude, inconsiderate, etc. The only real rule is that you can't do anything to take anybody else's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
  • Cat 2011/01/15 01:01:15
    Cat
    Yes it was enacted b4 Bush was elected......
  • BadDog Cat 2011/01/25 04:26:50
    BadDog
    +1
    if you look around on the webz, you can find a video of Bush signing the bill/law. He may not have wrote it, but he did sign it into law.
  • Cat BadDog 2011/01/25 23:55:15
    Cat
    +1
    That is good to know Bush signed it.......
  • Beccy 2011/01/14 02:48:23
    Beccy
    +1
    IT was already written before he even took office.
  • SpyderX 2011/01/13 19:44:28
    SpyderX
    +5
    It doesn't matter who authored it. Bush was the one who made it law, period.
  • Isma'il... SpyderX 2011/01/13 19:46:29
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    +1
    Good point. I was just curious.
  • Revol U... SpyderX 2012/09/05 04:07:13
    Revol Ution
    it does matter because Joe Biden wrote it.
  • Carabella 2011/01/13 16:57:31
    Carabella
    +3
    Viet D. Dinh is the chief architect of the Patriot Act. He's a lawyer who served as the Assistant Attorney General of the United States from 2001 to 2003, under George W. Bush.
  • Prairie... Carabella 2011/01/13 22:56:58 (edited)
    Prairie Wind
    +1
    FLICC Forum 2002, Viet Dinh: Privacy vs. Security, http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0... Source: Library of Congress

    READ IT!

    * Added ... the
    Bill H.R.3162 107th Congress (2001 - 2002)
    Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin...

    USA PATRIOT Act, Public Law 107-56, 26 October 2001 (H.R. 3162)
    USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005, H.R. 3199, 3 January 2006.
    USA PATRIOT Act Additional Reauthorizing Amendments Act of 2006, S.2271, 3 January
    2006.
    US Code 18 (Federal Crime and Rules of Criminal Procedure); Part I, Chapter 121, Section
    2709: Counterintelligence access to telephone toll and transactional records.
    US Code 50, Chapter 36 (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance), Subchapters I (Electronic
    Surveillance) and III (Pen Registers and Trap and Trace Devices for Foreign Intelligence
    Purposes).
    Senate version of amendments to the USA Patriot Act, S. 1389 (13 July 2005)
  • ruralntex 2011/01/13 14:38:31
    ruralntex
    +2
    I imagine that much of it was on a piece of paper in J. Edgar Hoover's desk drawer under pencils, a piece of very old gum, a bunch of change and paper clips and a box of staples, a roll of tape a high lighter...
  • BadDog ruralntex 2011/01/25 04:28:04
    BadDog
    what color highliter? ya gotta be pacific man! lol
  • Mark 2011/01/13 14:10:38
    Mark
    Bush Jr. did , and worked on how it would read .
  • mrdog 2011/01/13 11:29:21
    mrdog
    +3
    Duyba administration did ... of course...bark
  • Ed - In Yahweh ("I will be ... 2011/01/13 09:40:31
    Ed - In Yahweh ("I will be what I will be")  I Trust!
    +1
    I would place my bets on the international banking cabal. They always find willing puppets to assume responsibility for their evil works. Who wrote The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?? Whoever it was had a deep understanding of banking. Who set up the modern-day version of the Illuminati in 1776 - was it Weishaupt as most info seems to point out, or was he acting on behalf of his pay-lords the Rothschilds?? Ask yourself another question - who is it that is currently destroying your country and the west in general and whose aim it is to control the planet and greatly reduce its inhabitants? Would the Patriot Acts not suit those people perfectly?? I'll give you a clue:

    Author Frederic Morton wrote that the Rothschilds had: “conquered the World more thoroughly, more cunningly, and much more lastingly than all the Caesars before…”

    As Napoleon pointed out: “Terrorism, War & Bankruptcy are caused by the privatization of money, issued as a debt and compounded by interest “- he cancelled debt and interest in France – hence the Battle of Waterloo.

    "James Rothschild built his fabulous mansion, called Ferrilres, 19 miles north-east of Paris. Wilhelm I, on first seeing it, exclaimed: “Kings couldn’t afford this. It could only belong to a Rothschild!”

    http://www.giveittomeraw.com/...
  • Heffeweizen 2011/01/13 09:00:35
    Heffeweizen
    +5
    Joe Biden has been given credit for authorship. Bush should never have signed it.
  • Conservative in California 2011/01/13 07:41:09
    Conservative in California
    +4
    Joe Biden wrote the Patriot Act.
  • Lucy Conserv... 2011/01/13 17:17:07
    Lucy
    +3
    Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."

    Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as "the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism."

    Now lets get ALL the facts out there, and NO WHERE in the actual Patriot Act is Biden considered an "author".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  • Theresa 2011/01/13 06:45:40 (edited)
    Theresa
    +10
    That one is easy it was designed by a think tank in 1995It was sponsored by Joe Biden under the Clinton administration. It sat around until it could be implemented!
  • Ed - In... Theresa 2011/01/13 09:43:41
    Ed - In Yahweh ("I will be what I will be")  I Trust!
    +4
    And a think tank no doubt that represented the international banking cabal!!
  • Theresa Ed - In... 2011/01/13 09:54:02
    Theresa
    +3
    You are quite correct. I think that was the time I started noticing George Soros's influence.
  • BadDog Ed - In... 2011/01/25 04:30:16
    BadDog
    don't know about banking, but definitely big big business.
  • Prairie... Theresa 2011/01/13 23:14:56
    Prairie Wind
    Sources?
  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2011/01/13 06:35:56 (edited)
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +8
    Joe Biden actual wrote it under Clinton. It didn't make it the first time around but it was signed until after 9/11 when it was pushed through basically unread in a hurry.



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    Even before the Oklahoma City bombings, Joe Biden was busy at work writing the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It was later returned from the dead in 2001 after 9/11. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," Biden said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic.
  • Isma'il... Hula gi... 2011/01/13 06:38:24
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    +2
    Someone else told me that Viet Dinh authored it. I am confused now.
  • Hula gi... Isma'il... 2011/01/13 06:42:01
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +6
    They got that from Google but that is not correct but it was Joe Biden that wrote the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act after the Oklahoma City bombing and didn't pass the first time around but Progressives waited for the opportunity to shove it down our throats and did immediately "don't want to waste a crisis.

    There have been videos with Joe Biden himself talking about him writing it and there was proof to back that up. A whole part of a show was on it not that long ago.
  • Theresa Hula gi... 2011/01/13 06:48:08
    Theresa
    +4
    It is lie Joe never wrote anything! It was given to him whole by a Progressive think tank as a response to OKC bombing.
  • Isma'il... Hula gi... 2011/01/13 06:57:34
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    +2
    Oh wow. So Joe Biden is the jerk that we would be blaming.
  • Lucy Hula gi... 2011/01/13 17:21:13
    Lucy
    +2
    Hey Hula, how ya doing?

    You are correct that Biden helped author and introduced the Counter terrorism Act in 1995 after the Oklahoma City bombing. It did not pass. However, he had nothing to do with the actual Patriot Act other than to "claim" it had some of his 1995 proposal included in it. NO WHERE is he given ANY credit for the actual Patriot Act. You may find it interesting to see who actually did get credit though. Have a great day!

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