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If another country, let's say china or russia invaded America which country will come to help US?

Huki68 2011/04/14 13:33:14
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  • Angie 2011/04/14 13:38:01
    Angie
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    Britain would be right in there, they always are backing up the USA, Canada even though I am from here we're too wimpy and we don't have the arms to help out.

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  • *♥Ashley♥* 2011/04/15 13:22:34 (edited)
    *♥Ashley♥*
    +2
    Britain!!- definitely :)
  • ujj 2011/04/15 09:05:16 (edited)
    ujj
    +1
    Most likely NATO but unfortunately most of their military are half ass compared to the US because they pay hardly anything into their own defense. By exception of UK, Germany & France but not entirely because their equipment is still second rate.



    Fortunately for them, they wont have to cross the ocean to help us because Russia/China have a better success rate attacking europe, where they have a land military advantage.



    yes,Russia and China have the largest land force but that advantage does not make up that fact of their limited air and sea transportation. At worst is a tactical and logistical nightmare trying to transport 1million man force into a country thousands of mile away, compare of by just crossing the border.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2011/04/15 08:56:43
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    HELL YES!!
  • Cogs Lady Wh... 2011/04/16 01:28:43
    Cogs
    +1
    Hell would come to help us? Cool, that's pretty metal.
  • BryanRozells 2011/04/15 08:06:05
    BryanRozells
    +1
    NATO, Britain and UN.
  • AL 2011/04/15 05:06:26
    AL
    +2
    Are you sh---ing me? The liberals would pick the winning side and turn on the rest of us just to save their own cowardly a---s
  • FATEEN AL 2011/04/18 18:27:55
    FATEEN
    +1
    This nation is full of turn coats and cowards. This isn't something dedicated to one ideology or party.

    You have people especially our national leaders who get on television and use other media outlets to brew up the flames of war and excite the public and it it these whom are no where to be found when needed.

    It is these and not the general public who will be hiding under a bed some where if something like this where to happen.

    Yet our nation is secure, no nation has the gall to blantantly assault our nation or its interests.

    Case in point during the Cold War Russia previously known as the USSR did not attack the US directly we fought one another indirectly through Vietnam and Afghanistan and the US could not become involved directly in that scirmmish because that would have been direct fighting and would have gotten worse. So we where fighting one another just not directly.
  • AL FATEEN 2011/04/18 20:25:03
    AL
    +1
    That very well could be! Yet Its really getting to the point I can't tell the far left from the Muslim terrorist themselves to be real honest with you!
  • Cogs 2011/04/15 04:46:52 (edited)
    Cogs
    +2
    That's an easy one to answer. From the Atlantic side, an attack on any member of NATO is an attack on all, so right off the bat, we'd have these countries defending us:

    Albania · Belgium · Bulgaria · Canada · Croatia · Czech Republic · Denmark · Estonia · France · Germany · Greece · Hungary · Iceland · Italy · Latvia · Lithuania · Luxembourg · Netherlands · Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain · Turkey · United Kingdom, with the UK being the most powerful and Canada probably being the most rapid response.

    If China ever decided to start a fuss, any attack on America from the Pacific would bring Australia and New Zealand into the fray, along with South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, etc.

    It's kinda silly to worry about it though. America cannot be invaded. We have one of the two largest stockpiles of nuclear warheads in the world, an immense navy and air force, along with an enormous geographical advantage and a heavily armed population. Nobody else has a navy capable of getting a major invasion force across the Pacific or the Atlantic with the goal of taking on an entire hostile continent. The old war-game scenarios of NATO-vs-Warsaw Pact usually involved a land war over Germany and central/western Europe, not an invasion of the US.

    *nuclea...
    That's an easy one to answer. From the Atlantic side, an attack on any member of NATO is an attack on all, so right off the bat, we'd have these countries defending us:

    Albania · Belgium · Bulgaria · Canada · Croatia · Czech Republic · Denmark · Estonia · France · Germany · Greece · Hungary · Iceland · Italy · Latvia · Lithuania · Luxembourg · Netherlands · Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain · Turkey · United Kingdom, with the UK being the most powerful and Canada probably being the most rapid response.

    If China ever decided to start a fuss, any attack on America from the Pacific would bring Australia and New Zealand into the fray, along with South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, etc.

    It's kinda silly to worry about it though. America cannot be invaded. We have one of the two largest stockpiles of nuclear warheads in the world, an immense navy and air force, along with an enormous geographical advantage and a heavily armed population. Nobody else has a navy capable of getting a major invasion force across the Pacific or the Atlantic with the goal of taking on an entire hostile continent. The old war-game scenarios of NATO-vs-Warsaw Pact usually involved a land war over Germany and central/western Europe, not an invasion of the US.

    *nuclear subs and ICBMs can certainly reach us, but if any nuclear-armed great power was suicidal enough to launch their own nuclear attack before an attempted invasion, the whole argument would be moot anyways, because there wouldn't be enough of America (or our attacker) left to bother worrying about who gets to keep either one.
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  • Lily 2011/04/15 04:25:10
    Lily
    +1
    Great Britain.
  • Adam 2011/04/15 04:02:07
    Adam
    +1
    Whatever country would have the most to gain by helping us would help us. Lets not kid ourselves, its the same criteria we use for the most part. Rational self-interest. Im sure they would be talk about freedom, duty, honor, friendship and all of that, but at the end of the day, just like us, military gets put primarily in places that will protect our own countries interests.
  • FATEEN Adam 2011/04/18 18:29:33
    FATEEN
    +1
    That's a very good answer. It's not necessarily a humanitarian impulse that gets our nation involced in other nations conflicts but an interest that may effect US and world interests that may effect American interests in the long run.
  • judge 2011/04/15 03:15:58
    judge
    +1
    I don't even know if our own soldiers would come home to help. We have an invasion on our open borders now with a drug war, and everyone from the "commander in chief" to the lowest private except Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin doesn't give a care.
  • thefatguy 2011/04/15 02:32:11
    thefatguy
    +1
    Israel, Australia, Canada, Great Britain for a start. But, there would be others. Lots of countries like to act like they hate the U.S. but they know if we go down, they're next so they'd change their tune.
  • Chokmah 2011/04/15 02:26:56
    Chokmah
    +1
    Most likely our help will come from south of the border... or some small country like Poland or Italy, or maybe even Ireland.
  • mike j 2011/04/15 02:25:09
    mike j
    +1
    NOBODY
  • coffeeaddict10 2011/04/15 02:23:07
    coffeeaddict10
    +1
    I really believe we'd be on our own. Other countries rely too heavily on whatever other "super power" would invade us for trade.
  • Birthpangs 2011/04/15 02:13:54
  • Muonna 2011/04/15 02:00:40
    Muonna
    +1
    Khazakstan - Greatest Country in the World. all other countries are run by little girls...

  • sdusmcret54 2011/04/15 01:56:35
    sdusmcret54
    +1
    No body will.
  • Tpem 2011/04/15 01:48:38
    Tpem
    +1
    Great Britain, Canada and Austrailia.
  • Morgan Orlins 2011/04/15 01:17:19
    Morgan Orlins
    +1
    The Canadians, the Brits would try to help us and Mexico would jump in to help with everything they could muster.
  • Gloria 2011/04/15 01:08:30
    Gloria
    +1
    Belize & Guatemala.
  • patriot 2011/04/15 01:04:35
    patriot
    +1
    Nobody= BO approval rating in Israel is in single digits. We have totally pissed off Eng. France and Germany and the arabs just laugh at us.
  • THE ONE 2011/04/15 00:53:49
    THE ONE
    +1
    THE U.N. LMAO.
  • John-Michael 2011/04/15 00:29:26
    John-Michael
    +1
    Maybe Canada, Japan, Austrailia, New Zeland and Britain. Thats about it.
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2011/04/15 00:21:23
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    UK, Republic of South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Poland, .........maybe Canada .......... that about does it though.
  • Steve 2011/04/15 00:09:20
    Steve
    +1
    Wouldn't it be easier for them just to wait a few more years until we have managed to destroy ourselves? They may have to fight other countries that are trying to grab land also, but I doubt they would have to worry about our "allies" coming to our rescue.
  • Time Traveler 2011/04/14 23:44:53 (edited)
  • Cogs Time Tr... 2011/04/15 05:02:28 (edited)
    Cogs
    +1
    "If China wanted to take over the United States, it could do it right now and there would be nothing we could say about it. They have enough people on call for draft to take over the world ten times over"

    That isn't true. Sure, they have a ton of people, but how exactly are they going to get here? China is five thousand miles away and their navy wouldn't ever work for that kind of operation. What are they gonna do, swarm us with container ships and pontoon boats? They'd never make it across the Pacific. They have enough people to make sure that nobody ever succeeds in invading China, but without a massive blue-water fleet to carry them around, the PLA isn't much of a threat to anyone outside of Asia.

    Chinese Navy:
    250,000 personnel
    26 destroyers
    49 frigates
    3 SSBN
    5~7 SSN
    56 SSK
    58 amphibious warfare ships
    ~80 coastal warfare vessels(missile)
    27 Large Landing Ships
    31 Medium Landing Ships
    200 fast attack craft
    ( 1 old Soviet carrier that's being retrofitted after purchase at some auction)
    ( several hundred land-based aircraft and ship-based helicopters)

    American Navy:
    430,400 personnel
    289 ships
    3,700 aircraft
    11 Aircraft carriers
    10 Amphibious assault ships
    9 Amphibious transport docks
    12 Dock landing ships
    22 Cruisers
    55 Destroyers
    30 Frigates
    75 Submarines

    I don't mean this as a "hurr, China s...
    "If China wanted to take over the United States, it could do it right now and there would be nothing we could say about it. They have enough people on call for draft to take over the world ten times over"

    That isn't true. Sure, they have a ton of people, but how exactly are they going to get here? China is five thousand miles away and their navy wouldn't ever work for that kind of operation. What are they gonna do, swarm us with container ships and pontoon boats? They'd never make it across the Pacific. They have enough people to make sure that nobody ever succeeds in invading China, but without a massive blue-water fleet to carry them around, the PLA isn't much of a threat to anyone outside of Asia.

    Chinese Navy:
    250,000 personnel
    26 destroyers
    49 frigates
    3 SSBN
    5~7 SSN
    56 SSK
    58 amphibious warfare ships
    ~80 coastal warfare vessels(missile)
    27 Large Landing Ships
    31 Medium Landing Ships
    200 fast attack craft
    ( 1 old Soviet carrier that's being retrofitted after purchase at some auction)
    ( several hundred land-based aircraft and ship-based helicopters)

    American Navy:
    430,400 personnel
    289 ships
    3,700 aircraft
    11 Aircraft carriers
    10 Amphibious assault ships
    9 Amphibious transport docks
    12 Dock landing ships
    22 Cruisers
    55 Destroyers
    30 Frigates
    75 Submarines

    I don't mean this as a "hurr, China sucks, America strong" thing, but China's navy simply isn't built for invading another great power's continent across a whole ocean. They could definitely ruin some of our carrier groups and West Coast cities though.
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  • Time Tr... Cogs 2011/04/15 17:28:33
    Time Traveler
    I expected somebody would come back and say this.

    You got it right. We have a bigger active military.

    But their reserve is unimaginably big. That's why I said "draft". It is not disputed that they have more able-bodied soldier.

    Yeah, we could probably take their military in a fight. But the moment they begin the quick recruitment, the US would have lost.
  • Cogs Time Tr... 2011/04/16 01:25:29 (edited)
    Cogs
    Only if we invaded them. We'd easily lose a land war against China, IN China.
    They can't get soldiers here though. It doesn't matter how many people they can draft if they don't have the means to move them across an ocean.

    They could certainly steamroll Taiwan or most of the other nearby places, but without a major navy, China's army stays put.
  • Time Tr... Cogs 2011/04/16 03:48:15
    Time Traveler
    But that's just the thing.
    On the USA side, they have to split the resources between defending and attacking.
    China has enough people to where it doesn't need nearly as many technological resources and can send them overseas, while the tens of millions of soldiers defend.

    The USA would eventually be forced to defense only, and China would be able to then use it's ships it didn't have to use before to push American troops closer to the coast. Once that was done, it would set up a line of defense for the ships to come in.

    It may not have enough warships to carry ten million soldiers, but it has enough warships to guard an army of cargo ships carrying ten million soldiers.
  • Cogs Time Tr... 2011/04/16 16:36:55 (edited)
    Cogs
    No they don't. Against any nation that has an air force, warships are worthless nowadays if they don't have their own air support. A swarm of cargo ships without air cover from a carrier group (or several) would just be a bunch of floating coffins. Coincidentally, our own carrier groups would be

    China doesn't have anything larger than destroyers yet, beyond one supposedly salvaged Soviet-era carrier. Destroyers are fine for coastal operations, anti-piracy, and anti-submarine protection for a larger fleet, but without a couple of carrier groups covering the skies, they'd never make it.

    This is a silly argument anyways. China would gain nothing at all from attacking us. We're far more useful as a market. If there ever was a war between us and China, it'd probably go nuclear - and that point, who cares anymore who wins?
  • Time Tr... Cogs 2011/04/16 16:49:39
  • Time Tr... Cogs 2011/04/16 16:50:38
    Time Traveler
    +1
    "China doesn't have anything larger than destroyers yet, beyond one supposedly salvaged Soviet-era carrier. Destroyers are fine for coastal operations, anti-piracy, and anti-submarine protection for a larger fleet, but without a couple of carrier groups covering the skies, they'd never make it. "

    Not true,
    http://www.armybase.us/wp-con...

    "This is a silly argument anyways. China would gain nothing at all from attacking us. We're far more useful as a market. If there ever was a war between us and China, it'd probably go nuclear - and that point, who cares anymore who wins?"

    Pretty much. It was a fun silly argument, though.
  • FATEEN Time Tr... 2011/04/18 18:34:38
    FATEEN
    I think this is one of the best responses other than my own that I have seen. It doesn't make any sense for these nations to blantantly assault us.

    It wouldn't be an assault without prior notice and would be stopped. No nation has strategic bases world wide as we do. We have military posts in their back door. We stopped USSR from creating nuclear silos.

    Anyone who entertains the possibility of this happening at least in the near future is off the rocker and not thinking.
  • nonpassive2 2011/04/14 23:31:23
    nonpassive2
    +1
    NOBODY..that's the idea!! if AMERICA goes down. CHINA and RUSSIA step in. its all in OBAMAS plan....sorry you libs are2blind2see!!!!!! but, WHAT ELSE IS NEW.
  • FairLady 2011/04/14 23:28:29 (edited)
    FairLady
    +1
    It depends who will be the US President at that time. Hard to say. Probably Canada and Israel..

    Good question. :)
  • Diana 2011/04/14 23:23:06
    Diana
    +2
    I think England,Israel and Canada

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