I just want you to know...if you are involved in the SH political debate I understand you. Just please don't personally insult the opposition.

............yes, I agree, but We also need to get rid of unintelligent and uninformed individuals, third party persons that don't even care about the thought provoking questions All of Us seek input from......... I have Select Soda Head Friends that I only post on, this may be different than most here, but I do get annoyed at the graphically profane photos & video, ruining the sensible trend of thought for the most part.......... freedom of speech should always be allowed, but vulgarity to make a non contribution to sensible posting should be respected also, " ....... that's the traditional way I was raised in my growing up Family " ......... Let Patriotism Always Be Respected Here, and offline as well........

No, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom in general, so even if I don't like what somebody says to me, I respect their right and FREEDOM to say it, and I do not try to control them.

There is nothing stated here about controlling speech. But we can try to improve attitudes and the way we treat each other. There is nothing wrong with that what so ever. You threaten someone you go to jail. But I won't call that taking FREEDOM of speech away. It's about treating others right. Not being a complete a-hole.

Good luck with that on here, but I see what you are trying to do...I just don't think it will ever work.

I think you are right. With some people it never will. Oh well. Their loss.

The fallacy you present is part of the problem. I am often accused of insulting people by pointing out their ignorance and stating as it is ignorant. The accurate use of language is all but lost in America and the world. It comes down to a simple truth, no one can insult you unless you let them. You and I have had the same issues with your promotion of ignorant propaganda on sun screen use. When you have no control population to measure results against, you cannot make claims that a product reduces risk, because you have nothing to base those facts on.

I'm not talking about making points. Stating what you think is fact. I AM talking about outright name calling and bullying on here over politics. That's a waste of time.

You know, somebody just said I had no brains, and I told them I thought they were the one with no brains. The whole exchange means less than nothing to me because the persons' opinion means nothing to me. If I think they are an idiot, why should I care?

I have gone to political forums for years, and they are always like this. The odds of it ever changing are slim to none.

My question is, if it bothers you, why don't you just ignore that section?

Trying to censor people is never going to work, they will say what they want to say. Unless it is against TOS, they can say it.

Ignorance is a statement of fact, not an insult. Although the ignorant, like you, do not understand the point. When you allow yourself to be offended in any conversation you allow yourself to be unintelligent.

I agree with you.

I totally agree but there are so many on here that can't prove their point so they do result to making childish statements it is their only defense

True.

speechless... it probably is better not to insult those you are trying to inform.

It sounds reasonable but is controlling and contrary to the idea of freedom of speech.

no, if pearl is stating to remember that the person you are talking to is not the candidate in debate himself, then dont insult their outlook, do the best you possibly can to insult and discredit the opposition while attempting to disseminate information and truth on behalf of your own knowledge

Uh, no. This is called being civil and not being a douchebag. Your ideas tend to be heard more that way.

I agree, but there is nothing you can do about it.

Nothing I can do about what?

About controlling what others post.

If they want to sound like Eustace from Courage the Cowardly Dog, that's fine with me. Just don't expect any civility from my side.

BS. There should not be the freedom to insult. I'm just suggesting not turning to that to make a point that is better made without that. :)

So you advocate controlling speech on what you deem as insulting?

Exactly right, it is using being polite to end debate, some opinions held are so ignorant they need to be insulted.

I don't advocate incivility or make excuses for trolls. I just don't see any way to call out the politeness fascists when someone is being rude.

:-) you are sweet pearl. I fear your entreaties will fall on deaf ears though.

If your and like members can hear me I'm happy.

Agree Pearl. :-)

I have no idea what any of it is about. Its really hard being on a site where the majority of people are american. I still love it though;)

Agree, but many will pass this post up, because they come here to fight and argue over silly things. Reasoning might seem as coming off as weak for many here. People don't want to learn, they just want to get their point across(because their views and beliefs are right), and want others to agree with their views or get insulted.

I don't come to fight and argue, I look to persuade the American public to have a better understanding of the facts, I dont truly intend to disrespect others, however sometimes I do, because having looked up the facts and being able to provide them for others who refuse to view them and acknowledge them, but would rather dismiss them as fallacies, and malicious lies it sometimes becomes difficult to treat peoples opinions like they are relevant. When someone refuses to look up the facts on something they are only opinionated on makes their opinion irrelevant. It is foolish to refuse the information of facts, and wish to attempt intelligent conversation with someone. I find that a direct insult to that person, and therefore will tell them that they are plain out stupid, and should go educate themselves.

I'm sure others feel the same way.

I agree.

I think that we all should remember that we're people first, Americans second (for those of us who are), and people with political ideologies third.

The one thing that our most passionate partisans miss ... there are two political parties in this country "politicians and WTP" .... arguing R vs D is only there as a distraction to the most uninformed.

Very well said and it is sad that so many on sodahead do not have it in them to do what you say.

I agree. Ill quit raving insults I find funny

Agreed.

I never insult someone personally when in an argument. Doing so shows that you can't think of anything else to say.