I just read a comment by a self-admitted "lifelong" conservative Republican SH, that to make an assertion that no one was killed by Nixon's "dirty tricks" related to Watergate ( as compared to Fast & Furious) is "not exactly true"...Agree or disagree?
J.W. Howler
2012/06/24 19:03:31
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This particular "conservative Republican" is a consistent supporter of the Obama administration with his commentary across the Sodahead site.
He also asserts that Watergate was a much worse crime than any crime thus far alleged, or even known, relative to Fast & Furious -- even if MASS MURDER is undoubtedly one of those crimes.
He makes the claim that multiple murders as a result of Fast & Furious is less serious than an attempt to undermine the "U.S. process" as he asserts was the case with Watergate.
He believes history will view Fast & Furious as a comparable scandal to the Lewinsky scandal, and one that will give a negative historical view of Republicans.
What say YOU?
He also asserts that Watergate was a much worse crime than any crime thus far alleged, or even known, relative to Fast & Furious -- even if MASS MURDER is undoubtedly one of those crimes.
He makes the claim that multiple murders as a result of Fast & Furious is less serious than an attempt to undermine the "U.S. process" as he asserts was the case with Watergate.
He believes history will view Fast & Furious as a comparable scandal to the Lewinsky scandal, and one that will give a negative historical view of Republicans.
What say YOU?
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Elleryqueen 2012/06/24 19:08:03I DO NOT believe that someone may have been killed because of, or related to,...
+27Watergate was a fairy tale compared to what has been going on for the last 3 plus years.
Fast and Furious enters a whole new area. If nothing of the reasons come to light, the facts of the case indicate the primary crime to be of grave consequence. If the motive is, indeed, the desire to circumvent the US Constitution, then the Crimes become, by far, the most serious committed by any major authority of the Government since the Revolutionary war.
Now the wiretap,, as bad as it was,, really isn’t all that uncommon.. Happens ALL the time and THAT,, with ALL the HOOPLA centered around the cover-up,, doesn’t come anywhere NEAR the gravity of Fast and Furious debacle even IF we learn absolutely NOTHING more about it then we know now..
Obama,, with his executive privilege claim,, has ALREADY gone as far as Nixon ever did by doing the EXACT same things that Nixon did and LIKE Nixon,, the courts are SURE to overturn that claim because LIKE Nixon,, Obama cannot USE executive privilege to cover up evidence of a crime.. And the Murder of Brian Terry,, the Mexican Citizens,, the arming of a criminal organization that is a threat to the host country are ALL crimes..
If the nature of the evidence that Obama has chosen to HIDE implicates HIM in ANY way to the commission of these crimes then HE has SURPASSED Nixon as the worse criminal ever to hold the office of the Presidency by a WIDE margin..
In actual FACT.. To compare these two scanda...
Now the wiretap,, as bad as it was,, really isn’t all that uncommon.. Happens ALL the time and THAT,, with ALL the HOOPLA centered around the cover-up,, doesn’t come anywhere NEAR the gravity of Fast and Furious debacle even IF we learn absolutely NOTHING more about it then we know now..
Obama,, with his executive privilege claim,, has ALREADY gone as far as Nixon ever did by doing the EXACT same things that Nixon did and LIKE Nixon,, the courts are SURE to overturn that claim because LIKE Nixon,, Obama cannot USE executive privilege to cover up evidence of a crime.. And the Murder of Brian Terry,, the Mexican Citizens,, the arming of a criminal organization that is a threat to the host country are ALL crimes..
If the nature of the evidence that Obama has chosen to HIDE implicates HIM in ANY way to the commission of these crimes then HE has SURPASSED Nixon as the worse criminal ever to hold the office of the Presidency by a WIDE margin..
In actual FACT.. To compare these two scandals such as they are right NOW strongly suggests how DESPARATE and Terrified the left is that the facts,, heretofore protected and hidden by THIS President,, will prove to be extremely harmful to THIS President and the Democrat Party for the forseeable future..
Trust me.. They would like NOTHING better then for all of this to just go away.. They CLAIM it's a waste of time.. They want YOU to believe that this is nothing but Politics..
THEY would like for YOU to just move on..
But the FACT of the matter is,, right NOW Fast and Furious is FRONT and CENTER in THEIR MINDS and they are TERRIFIED of it..
To escalate a failed policy admitted by the previous administration goes beyond the pale and calls to question his judgement, and possibly his sanity.
if anyone had been charged with Murder, or self defense, I'm sure it would be common knowledge.
I can easily understand anyone having a difference of opinion and political/ideology leaning, but I do not understand why they should ever feel the need to hide it, twist it, claim to be other than what is apparent by their opinions.
But WHY he would even do that I do not know.
It was thought that by doing so they could spread the impression that even reasonable right wingers were turnng against Bush in droves and that ONLY hard headed fanatical conservatives who REFUSED to listen to reason would continue to support him....
Of COURSE it never worked because it became apparent that ONLY a Left WInger devoid of ANY intelligence could POSSIBLY believe the TRIPE,, like voting for John ( our men in uniform are the REAL Terrorists ) Kerry,, and other things that they were spewing but SOME hardline Left Wingers NEVER got that memo..
You USED to be downright uncomplimentary when it came to them...
ROFLMAO..
IMO and other's opinion F & F was Holder's and Obama's main goal was to major instigate gun violence on both sides of the U.S. / Mexican border.And use that out of control gun violence as a justification for new stricter gun control laws.And maybe get the Senate to ratify the U.N. Small Arms and Light Weapons Treaty. Which could be use as a way to override the Second Amendment once and for all!
http://blog.heritage.org/2012...
And if a few hundred people get killed in the process.That's a "small price to pay"." Because all Marxists know that "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs" (In order to achieve something, it is inevitable and necessary that something
[or someone] should be destroyed.)
The murders of 1000's of Mexican citizens and our agents make Watergate pale into nothingness. This was a deliberate act to sell un-tagged and un-tracked weapons to drug cartels - it is murder by design and must be followed to the end.
But, to think this will end up comparable to Lewinsky, denies an emerging reality. Unlike Lewinsky, there is an enlargened and emboldened middle America that has become very savvy about the Marxist history and makeup of the Democratic Party. It is turning to a steel hardened resolve to rid this country of filth.
Even if this investigation leads to ugly truths about US Government individuals and groups being involved in drugs, the bastards may not be able to suppress things as successfully as they have in the past. Collusion-oriented politicians like RINOS may simply be removed by ballot and replaced with men and women who truly do have the guts for glory.
..........O K Fine............
i see-
the psuedo-conservative thing...
seems really in vogue these days--
hope all is well with you... andrew-