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I don't love my country, because I'm an Atheist

Shadow_Wolf 2012/07/16 21:44:18
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To my knowledge, though not outwardly obvious an Atheist can't be president. Of course you could lie, but let's just say it wouldn't be the best thing to do in your position. I don't believe I'm thinking of becoming president, but it's just a general anger. What happen to freeedom of religion and all the crap American is suppose to be based on. General point is though that eligibility for presidency wasn't suppose to have religious standard. I'm fully aware that there's no changing this, but I felt I should just let everyone know.
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  • Matt M 2012/07/18 05:16:53
    Don't care
    Matt M
    It's a democracy. So people vote. So a big chunk of them would freak out and not vote for an atheist. Sorry, fair or not popularity and a bit of stupidity are part of the system.

    While not saying you're wrong and while not telling you anything you haven't figured out, I do hope you reconcile that it is what it is. You should believe what you believe because you do and just deal with the unpopularity of it.

    Sorry, sure this is absolutley not helpful nor original! Hang in there.
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  • rustex782 2012/07/18 01:28:31 (edited)
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    rustex782
    on my poll:

    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...

    Two guys on there are really hot about atheists being worse than Hitler. Feel like enlightening them?
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  • Haightbear 2012/07/17 20:04:11
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    Haightbear
    +1
    What has been Christianity’s fruits? Superstition, Bigotry and Persecution. - James Madison


    Maybe we've already had one already?
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  • Shadow_... Haightbear 2012/07/18 01:04:41 (edited)
    Shadow_Wolf
    +1
    Not saying we haven't, but it shouldn't have to be to the point where an atheist president has to make everyone believe he's not one
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  • Mandy 2012/07/17 19:42:56
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    Mandy
    I disagree with you that there's no changing it. The population of our country will evolve (kicking and screaming) to be more secular, and eventually we will have an atheist president. It may even be a person of color or (gasp!) a woman!
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  • Shadow_... Mandy 2012/07/18 01:03:37
    Shadow_Wolf
    OBAMA IS BLACK. You look at him walking down the street know no prior information. You would assume he is black, which he basically is; don't try to be recially correct all of a sudden.
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  • Mandy Shadow_... 2012/07/18 12:57:13
    Mandy
    Well technically he's half black and half white, but I don't see what his ethnicity has to do with anything, other that perhaps support my point that the groupthink of our country is evolving. What I meant by what I originally wrote, and what may have confused you, is that a future ATHEIST president may also be an ethnic minority or a woman. I'm not denying that Obama is a person of color.
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  • Shadow_... Mandy 2012/07/18 15:19:47
    Shadow_Wolf
    +1
    Yes I did misunderstand I didn't know you were focusing on atheist at that point, and yes he is both black and white. However most would assume he's just black if you knew nothing about him.
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  • elijahin24 2012/07/17 19:21:32
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    elijahin24
    I know. It's enraging. I'm a soldier and a veteran, and MY patriotism is questioned all the time, because I don't believe in God.
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  • Gaven Small 2012/07/17 19:07:35
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    Gaven Small
    Im a Christian but i dont think religion should be a basis on what makes a good leader or a good person. Your actions should tell us that.
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  • PsychoxAngel 2012/07/17 16:34:21
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    PsychoxAngel
    all becasue someone has different viwe on things dosn't make it right to discriminate them
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  • merlinskiss 2012/07/17 16:12:40
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    merlinskiss
    An atheist can believe in the Constitution and Bill of rights and choose to uphold them. The so help me god part means nothing as we see every day from elected officials. Neither is patriotism or love of a country a requirement. Why? because just like religion, these are tool used to control thinking and actions (or at least try). Personally, I could care less if a president prays, is religious, says the pledge or swears on bibles... In fact, I would prefer they didn't!
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  • Bastion 2012/07/17 14:43:28
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    Bastion
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    "Atheists shouldn't be discriminated against", is what you meant to say.

    Yeah, how about that? No religious test, my ass.

    BUT in my opinion, we've already had many atheist Presidents - they were just too smart to admit it.
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  • Shadow_... Bastion 2012/07/18 01:01:39
    Shadow_Wolf
    Yeah I know couldn't do anything about it once it was posted though
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  • JQHiggins 2012/07/17 14:31:56
    It's fair
    JQHiggins
    A quick study in comparative law: In the USA, everything is permitted, except that which is forbidden. In Germany, everything is forbidden, except that which is permitted. And in communist China, with its very extensive list of constitutional rights, everything is forbidden, especially that which is permitted. So the American atheist is free to disbelieve in a divine architect of the universe that the Founders accepted when they drafted Article VI of the Constitution, stating in part that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a qualificationto any Office or public Trust under the United States."
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  • elijahin24 JQHiggins 2012/07/17 19:36:17
    elijahin24
    You should read up on the founders. Many of them were deists. The science which has proven that no god is necessary for the universe to exist; didn't exist yet. If it had, many of the founders would have been straight-up atheists.
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  • gfreeman BN-0 2012/07/17 14:12:41
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    gfreeman BN-0
    +1
    This is the sort of thing that most typifies aggressive nationalism. The constant insistence that the USA is a Christian Nation. Ultimately, it will lead to fascism.
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  • Mark 2012/07/17 13:35:33
    Don't care
    Mark
    Probably because most atheists are a pain in the backside.
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  • elijahin24 Mark 2012/07/17 19:38:45
    elijahin24
    Yes we are. Especially to Christians who hate non-believers.
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  • Shadow_... Mark 2012/07/18 01:00:34
    Shadow_Wolf
    Sorry that we're a 1,000s of steps ahead on the evolution of beliefs scale
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  • Ira 2012/07/17 12:35:33
    Atheists shouldn't be discriminate
    Ira
    +1
    Just another example of the stifling effect religion has on the masses.
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  • Ryoka∞Boy 2012/07/17 11:27:03
    It's fair
    Ryoka∞Boy
    America is based on all that,but it's the citizens that change that.
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  • elijahin24 Ryoka∞Boy 2012/07/17 19:38:56
    elijahin24
    It's based on what?
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  • Ryoka∞Boy elijahin24 2012/07/17 19:39:52
    Ryoka∞Boy
    The things he is writting at the discriprtion.
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  • elijahin24 Ryoka∞Boy 2012/07/17 19:42:18
    elijahin24
    Sorry, I was unclear. America is based on all of what?
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  • Ryoka∞Boy elijahin24 2012/07/17 19:44:46
    Ryoka∞Boy
    I just answered that.
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  • elijahin24 Ryoka∞Boy 2012/07/17 19:46:19
    elijahin24
    ok
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  • Shadow_... elijahin24 2012/07/18 00:59:05
    Shadow_Wolf
    He can't answer because he knows he's wrong
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  • elijahin24 Shadow_... 2012/07/18 01:05:09
    elijahin24
    yeah.
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  • Michael=Constitution & Liberty 2012/07/17 08:34:59
    Don't care
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +1
    don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out ;)
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  • Don Leuty 2012/07/17 07:18:20
    Don't care
    Don Leuty
    +2
    If you don't like it here, then why do you stay. I love Germany, Switzerland and Austria, but I love the USA more. Were it not so, I would definitely pick one of these places to live.
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  • elijahin24 Don Leuty 2012/07/17 19:39:24
    elijahin24
    Someone doesn't know the difference between patriotism, and nationalism.
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  • Shadow_... Don Leuty 2012/07/18 00:58:26
    Shadow_Wolf
    Don't have much of a choice at where I live at the moment, but one year from now I'll start my campaign to get the hell outta here
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  • Don Leuty Shadow_... 2012/07/18 03:46:28
    Don Leuty
    Good luck and God bless. I truly hope you find what you are looking for.
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  • Shadow_... Don Leuty 2012/07/18 15:17:22 (edited)
    Shadow_Wolf
    See you had me with good luck, but then you threw in god.
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  • Don Leuty Shadow_... 2012/07/18 17:45:34
    Don Leuty
    You're welcome.
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  • Shadow_... Don Leuty 2012/07/18 22:31:10
    Shadow_Wolf
    You're not welcome
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  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/07/17 06:27:17
    Don't care
    Bob, the reasonable one
    keep your beliefs to yourself, don't be confrontational because that just pisses off the vast majority of the population...I don't understand all this "In your face" confrontational strategy at all. All too often this antagonistic extremism causes blowback.
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  • elijahin24 Bob, th... 2012/07/17 19:39:55
    elijahin24
    When Christians keep their beliefs to themselves, so will we.
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  • Bob, th... elijahin24 2012/07/17 19:49:26
    Bob, the reasonable one
    What I'm saying is be civil, respect other people and they will respect your space and views. Don't lump all christians into the enemy just as I don't lump all atheists as being the enemy....When someone judges me by the actions of others that irritates me. Get to know me before you form an opinion....words to remember
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