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>>'How would a Jewish person feel if you put a swastika on a shoe?' Adidas under fire for unveiling new trainer with orange 'shackles' like those worn by black slaves<< What do you think of these shoes and the story?

XENON23 2012/06/18 18:37:28
Adidas cancels 'shackle' shoes after outcry








I guess they would keep your pants safe while bike riding.

I see nothing wrong with the Black and Tan shoes.

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  • Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~ 2012/06/19 20:57:21
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +1
    Blacks were not the only slaves. These things look more like fun time for whackos..
  • LarryFine 2012/06/19 14:31:22
    LarryFine
    +2
    Well, I don't know about blacks; but, I worked on a chain gang once and I am deeply offended!!
  • Charlie 2012/06/19 14:01:04
    Charlie
    +2
    Don't like them, don't buy them.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/06/19 04:31:46
  • Gracie ... rustysh... 2012/06/19 20:44:48
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +1
    They weren't. And they never wore orange it was rusty ole metal!
  • rustysh... Gracie ... 2012/06/19 22:56:37
  • BritPunk 2012/06/18 20:46:56
    BritPunk
    +3
    Or are they trying to cash in on the new trendy version of BDSM?
  • BritPunk 2012/06/18 20:43:33
    BritPunk
    +3
    Slaves wore orange plastic shackles with "Adidas" on them? Really??
    Looks more like an anti consumerism message to me, people "enslaved" to wearing the latest labels.
  • Melizmatic BritPunk 2012/06/18 22:30:16
    Melizmatic
    +3
    All the more reason not to buy such a silly product.
  • KingdomNow BritPunk 2012/06/19 05:06:07
    KingdomNow
    +1
    Oh, they would have so killed for those shoes!
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2012/06/18 19:52:54
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +3
    The shoes are dumb, but they're not "racist." That's a stretch. Also, the Swastika has had a meaning for thousands of years before Nazis. It's a symbol of peace in Hinduism and many other religions. This political correctness is dumb.

    manji

    hindu swastika
    hindu swastika
  • BritPunk ««Ginge... 2012/06/18 20:45:34
    BritPunk
    +2
    Exactly, spot on old bean. The local Hindu shops round here often have pictures of Ganesh with swastikas etc.
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/18 20:53:16
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    Ancient symbolism is irrelevant. What IS relevant is the modern perception.

    Are you gay?
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/18 21:40:11
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +2
    If you attach fear to something, you are only giving Nazis more power. Plus how would you define "modern perception?" In China, India, and the East today, the manji/swastika is perceived to be a symbol of positiveness. You are basing this entirely on Western perception, not modern perception.
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 13:21:31 (edited)
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    As a Westerner, my perception WOULD be Western.
    Look around. Are you in China or India?

    *edit* This past weekend some buildings in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood including a house of worship were defaced with swastikas. Was that a tribute to Ganesha?
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 16:29:15
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    "As a Westerner, my perception WOULD be Western."

    But you specifically stated "modern perception," not "Western perception."

    If someone illegally defaced a jewish place with swastikas, that is obviously a neo-nazi attack. The point is though, swastikas are not inherently bad just because Jews are offended by them. When you see Jewish organizations asking Hindu and Buddhist people to stop displaying manjis/swastikas that's when it gets ridiculous. That is the political correctness that you conservatives are always complaining about.
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 16:35:30
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    I have not heard of any Jewish organizations asking Hindus or Buddhists to stop displaying their holy symbols.
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 16:48:38
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    They have. I remember they did it to Pokemon, because one of the cards had a manji on it.
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 17:32:19
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    A group of people asking a game manufacturer not to use a symbol that could be perceived as hateful is a far cry from "Jewish organizations asking Hindu and Buddhist people to stop displaying manjis/swastikas"
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 18:22:59
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    How exactly is it different? Also, is this not a form of political correctness that you conservatives always complain about?
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 19:29:53
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    There is a major difference between asking a game manufacturer not to use a symbol and asking a religion to stop using a symbol.they have been using for thousands of years. Nintendo is not an ancient religion.

    Just to be clear, the Pokemon card in question was for Japan only and I do not agree with those who asked that they symbol not be used. I also could not find who asked that the card be changed nor how many people.

    PC is when the truth is subjugated to the point of excess and obfuscation. ie: calling illegal aliens "undocumented immigrants".
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 19:57:20
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    "Nintendo is not an ancient religion."
    Says you

    PC is more than that.

    "Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent."
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/18 21:41:01
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    Also, why did you ask me if I'm gay? Are you gay?
  • XENON23 ««Ginge... 2012/06/18 22:20:47
    XENON23
    +2
    I think he was thinking of how the meaning of gay has changed. It has 3 meaning now. To my dad it was happy, I grew up with it being about being homosexual and not my kids use it to mean stupid.
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 13:20:12
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +2
    As Xenon pointed out I was giving you an example of perception.
  • BritPunk fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 14:40:33
    BritPunk
    +3
    I used to watch the Flintstones having "a gay old time!"
  • fuzzy K... BritPunk 2012/06/19 14:57:28
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +2
    Yabba Dabba DOOOooooooo!
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 16:29:29
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    Elaborate
  • fuzzy K... ««Ginge... 2012/06/19 16:40:35
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    Like the swastika, the word 'gay' has denoted something other than homosexual for hundreds of years.
    That, in no way changes the modern perception.
  • ««Ginge... fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 16:53:21
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    However, unlike the word "gay," the swastika remains to this day a very active religious symbol, and the Nazis were very temporary. In about 100 years, the swastika will have been largely forgotten as a nazi symbol, I guarantee, as people tend to grow indifferent to history as time goes on.
  • XENON23 fuzzy K... 2012/06/18 22:18:50
    XENON23
    +1
    I am very gay...I am happy all the time...LOL
  • BritPunk fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 07:39:56
    BritPunk
    +2
    But to many people their modern perception is the swastika is a symbol of good luck and fortune. Ancient symbolism isn't always washed away when a symbol is briefly hijacked. (Briefly in historical terms of course !)
  • fuzzy K... BritPunk 2012/06/19 13:30:24
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +2
    As a Westerner MY perception and that of most Westerners is that the swastika is a symbol of Nazism.
    This past weekend swastikas were spray painted on some buildings including a house of worship in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. That symbol wasn't "briefly hijacked" (past tense), it took on a new meaning that is still being used today.
    Meanings and perceptions change as I pointed out to Gingey when I asked her of she was gay.
  • BritPunk fuzzy K... 2012/06/19 14:39:24
    BritPunk
    +3
    I see your point, but in a multicultural city like mine, the swastika has different meaning, sometimes Nazii/ neo Nazi, but more often in its religious sense. In the history of the world 1933 - 45 is but a blip :-) I also think there is a definite sense of refusing to alow it to be perverted, a sort of "reclaiming"
  • XENON23 ««Ginge... 2012/06/18 22:18:20
    XENON23
    +2
    My dad spent 3 summers in europe in the late 30's. He was there in 39 the last summer before the war broke out all over. He told me a story about how he had this Navajo belt he had made and how it have the Swastikas on it but going the other way from the german one. He said that a lot of SS officers would walk up to him and point it out remark about it with whoever they were with. He said he never knew what the were saying as his german was not that good.
  • ««Ginge... XENON23 2012/06/18 22:20:50
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    Wow, that's crazy! I bet your dad has a bunch of really awesome stories.
  • XENON23 ««Ginge... 2012/06/18 22:43:35
    XENON23
    +2
    He did. But he passed away a little over 3 years ago.

    I know most of his good stories. We were close and he took me all over Texas when I was a kid. He had a ranch so I spent the weekend with him there or we would go camping. He took me skiing 2 time a year. He had been skiing since the 40's.

    He told me one cool story that I had not heard about a year before he died. It was about how his dad took the family on a road trip from Texas to Quebec by car in the 30's. My grandfather as he said loved to just set out in the car with out plans. But My grandfather did take a trip around the world when he was 13 from 1899-1900. So I take it he was into traveling.
  • Simmering Frog 2012/06/18 19:03:40
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    It probably will be a big hit in the ghetto subculture. The Jews are smart enough to realize what actually is offensive.
  • fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust" 2012/06/18 19:03:16
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +1
    Tasteless! Who the hell would buy such CR@P???
  • BritPunk fuzzy K... 2012/06/18 20:46:00
    BritPunk
    +1
    People who buy Adidas.

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