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How much will YOU save with the Healthcare Plan?

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Lower Premiums by $2,500 for a Family of Four ??????

"If you've got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan," Mr. Obama said in his Oct. 15, 2008 debate against Sen. McCain. "The only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year."

This campaign promise is the trickiest to explain and to evaluate. Mr. Obama gave this figure repeatedly, but he was not being completely forthright about what he meant. His administration never expected families to see savings of $2,500 in premiums; instead, his advisers calculated the total cost savings for both individuals and the government.

"The original arithmetic was somewhat basic," the Times reported in July 2008. "In May 2007, three Harvard professors who are unpaid advisers to the Obama campaign... produced a memorandum offering their 'best guess' that a menu of changes would produce savings of at least $200 billion a year... That would amount to about 8 percent of the $2.5 trillion in health care spending projected for 2009, when the next president takes office...The total savings were then divided by the country's population, multiplied for a family of four, and rounded down slightly to a number that was easy to grasp: $2,500."

The changes expected to produce the savings included reduced administrative costs ($46 billion), improving preventive medicine and chronic disease management ($81 billion), and investments in digitizing medical records ($77 billion).

Yet whether those changes would produce those savings is suspect. The Times explained then that the costs were drawn from recent studies -- for instance the figure of $77 billion in savings achieved through health IT came from a RAND study. That study, however, says that such savings would take 15 years to reach.

Moreover, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), under the leadership of then-director Peter Orzag (now Mr. Obama's Director of the Office of Management and Budget), decided that RAND appeared to "significantly overstate the savings for the health care system" from health IT, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The study in Health Affairs is backed up by the CBO's own recent findings.

"Although different types of preventive care have different effects on spending, the evidence suggests that for most preventive services, expanded utilization leads to higher, not lower, medical spending overall," CBO Director Doug Elmendorf wrote on the Director's Blog last month. In defense of preventive medicine, he at least added, "Of course, just because a preventive service adds to total spending does not mean that it is a bad investment."

In spite of all this, it looked in May as if Mr. Obama might have been able to keep his promise, when the health care industry appeared to offer $2 trillion in spending reductions over 10 years to help pay for the president's reforms. The administration enthusiastically said this was enough to reduce costs by an average of $2,500 for a family of four.

However, health care leaders either did not clearly spell out their intent to the White House or reneged on their offer, claiming days later that they never agreed to such large cost reductions, the New York Times reported.

In addition, the health care legislation coming out of the Senate Finance Committee could even actually result in higher premiums for customers -- the insurance industry is threatening that the $6 billion industry-wide fee and other taxes Sen. Baucus has proposed will be passed on to consumers.

What this all means is that it may be years or decades before any overall savings from Mr. Obama's plans materialize -- if they do at all.




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  • +2 raves belle October 21, 2009 01:48:44 (edited)
    belle
    Save what a joke, we will be in debt up to our necks like the US is and nothing to show for it, thanks to Obuma.
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  • +2 raves
    belle October 21, 2009 01:48:44 (edited)
    belle
    Save what a joke, we will be in debt up to our necks like the US is and nothing to show for it, thanks to Obuma.
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    Rover™ ... belle October 21, 2009 14:16:19
    Rover™ ♂ - Standing TALL for America!!
    I call him O'Bummer!
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    belle Rover™ ... October 21, 2009 19:17:19
    belle
    good name for him, I may use it some time if you don't mind.
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    Rover™ ... belle October 21, 2009 19:18:27
    Rover™ ♂ - Standing TALL for America!!
    Be my guest!
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    belle Rover™ ... October 21, 2009 19:35:31
    belle
    thanks
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    gryphon1 October 21, 2009 00:39:26
    gryphon1
    Lol, we will pay thru the nose and get less service.
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    Rover™ ... gryphon1 October 21, 2009 14:16:42
    Rover™ ♂ - Standing TALL for America!!
    Pay thru the nose, and take it in the.....
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    Barefoot~Peace and Love! October 20, 2009 22:58:57
    Barefoot~Peace and Love!
    We do not need socialized medicine.... that is what they are trying to impose as we know..... not GOOD for OUR COUNTRY..... this health care stuff makes me mad.... really MAD.......
    they are trying to do nothing but control our as......es....
    Peace and Love... to all true Americans!!!!
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    Rover™ ... Barefoo... October 20, 2009 23:28:59
    Rover™ ♂ - Standing TALL for America!!
    Absolutely!! Share this with your friends!
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    elptrek Barefoo... October 21, 2009 07:06:26
    elptrek
    We may not need a not need socialized medicine but a public option is needed because all health insurance companies are following the same policies there isn't any competition among them and they will find a way around any new rules.Look at what the financial companies did to the economy. There was rules to prevent what happen, which was made after the great depression.So in order to compete against a public option they would have to change their ways.
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    Rover™ ... elptrek October 21, 2009 14:18:36 (edited)
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    We are held prisoners by our states. Limit the rewards in tort reform, and let us choose health plans from across state lines. Competition drives the cost down.
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    elptrek Rover™ ... October 22, 2009 04:03:13
    elptrek
    There still be no competition since they are all doing the same thing.They are collaborating maybe not intentionally but the result are the same.
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    Barefoo... elptrek October 21, 2009 21:19:12
    Barefoot~Peace and Love!
    It is such a mess....
    Peace and Love...
    God Bless America!!
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    elptrek Barefoo... October 22, 2009 03:58:40
    elptrek
    I agree, the sad thing is it not necessary if not for greed and The Dangers of Political Parties.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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    Barefoo... elptrek October 22, 2009 20:41:33
    Barefoot~Peace and Love!
    amen!!
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    [PRISONMOON]+[RSSH] October 20, 2009 20:07:33
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    " Lower Premiums by $2,500 for a Family of Four ?????? "

    Ummm... I only pay $1,400.00 a year in premiums and no co-pays...does that mean that Obama will give me the difference ? I don't need his CHANGE thankyouverymuch
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    Rover™ ... [PRISON... October 20, 2009 20:11:26
    Rover™ ♂ - Standing TALL for America!!
    Are you kidding??? In order to lower your premiums by $2500, first he has to get them beyond that point!! For generations!!!
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