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How many Ethiopian refugees were airlifted to Israel on May 24, 1991?

Step Up For Israel 2012/05/30 16:28:22
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Israel airlifted _____ Ethiopian refugees in 36 hours on non-stop flights of _____ Israeli aircraft. (Hint: The answer is in the video below!)

Operation Solomon, as it is known, set a world record for single-flight passenger load on May 24, 1991 when an El Al 747 carried 1,122 passengers to Israel.

Today, over 100,000 Ethiopians have made Aliyah (immigrated to Israel) and more are coming!



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  • Tim Upham 2012/05/30 22:26:55
    14,352 refugees on 34 non-stop flights
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    I have worked with the Falasha, their name in Amharic means "wanderer." Read the "Kebra Nagast" or "Book of the Glory of Kings," it offer an interesting historical account of Ethiopia, and the deep Biblical connections of the people such as the Falasha. They are a fascinating group of people, I celebrated Pesach with them.

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  • David Pronata... 2012/05/31 02:23:28
    David
    I'm with you brother. I know a few American ex-pats over there who have a permanent residency through a NPO (non-profit organization). I volunteered in 1998 with them. They are called Christian Friends for Israel. The trick is to not stress the fragile Israeli economy. We can go, but only through proper channels. Maybe we can start one together? I'm a teacher by trade, so let's start a NPO, get the Israeli consulate to OK it and we're in. We just need donors, support, and volunteers!
  • Pronata... David 2012/05/31 02:41:13
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    +1
    Is that a crap-shot of a plan? Do you know anything about how to start a NPO? Is there a more sure way, that I can move to Israel? Are you serious about doing something like this? Have you done the research? How far along are you?

    Is permanent Residency, permanent? What's involved in moving to the final stage of citizenship? Would I need actual citizenship, should I choose to renounce American citizenship, or to get an Israeli passport?

    Once I get permanent Residency, do I need to continue as as active member of the NPO?

    I would like to go as a retiree, but am probably a bit too young and too short of money, to long assume I won't have to work a job again. I'm out of work right now, due to The Great Obama Depression.

    Can you tell me a little more, what is your personal interest in going to Israel? Religious reasons? Just to escape The United Slaves of America? You actually do live in the U.S.? Do you have your passport already? What did you think of Israel? Are the people nicer than Americans? What part of Israel is best to live in? Can I own my own villa (house)?

    Why is this so complicated and confusing?
  • Rob Pronata... 2012/05/31 15:37:32
    Rob
    +1
    Israel certainly accepts non-Jewish immigrants, although most of its immigrants are Jews who become olim under the terms of The Law of the Return. In fact, Israelis the only country in the Middle East whose Christian population is growing.

    I recommend contacting your local Israeli consulate for further details. I would also suggest you try to find an Ulpan (immersion) course in Hebrew and learn before you go. If you're of military age, the Army will provide this.

    As for shipping your stuff, shop around. Different shipping lines can have very different prices for container cargo shipment.
  • Pronata... Rob 2012/05/31 20:37:47
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Please read both of my nearly-consecutive replies. #1

    Yes, I am already studying Hebrew, but I'm afraid my course study is more of Biblical Hebrew, and maybe not enough conversational Hebrew, to function in Israel, although should I move, it should be possible to broaden from there.

    I don't know if I am "Jewish enough" to have any claim under "Law of Return."

    I don't understand the process of going through an Israeli consulate. If I say or do the wrong thing, am I done? I don't want to somehow goof the process.

    I'm almost too old to be of military age. A friend told me that I likely wouldn't have to worry about IDF service.
  • Melvin ... Pronata... 2012/06/07 08:49:56
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    You'd probably do well by starting with the Israeli Consulate for guidance. Good luck!
  • Melvin ... Pronata... 2012/05/31 18:00:27
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    +1
    If you're Jewish, it's not a big problem to move to Israel. (I am Jewish and I did move here to Israel in 2009.) If you're not Jewish, marrying an Israeli would, perhaps, make things somewhat easier. My wife is Ukrainian and she lives with me here (and she is not Jewish.) There are many good reasons for wanting to leave the U.S. no doubt politics being one of the most applicable. But ultimately the New World Order shall be established, with Jerusalem as its' world headquarters. The new Israeli Supreme Court Building is loaded with pagan, Masonic and occult symbolism. See: http://vigilantcitizen.com/si... ...I strongly recommend that you read the entire article, and ot just give it a cursory glance.
    Israel is not a 'democratic' State (as many in the Israeli government here would like to give, all who will believe it, the impression)! It is, in practice, an atheistic Oligarchy that does some special favors to 'religious Jews' here! See: http://sysspot.wordpress.com/...
    Israelis do have a well deserved reputation for being difficult people. This apparently goes all the way back to the Korach Rebellion against Moses himself. See: http://www.biblegateway.com/p...
    Many/most Israelis are infamous for being short on manners, customer service, honesty and accountability. In this sense t...

    If you're Jewish, it's not a big problem to move to Israel. (I am Jewish and I did move here to Israel in 2009.) If you're not Jewish, marrying an Israeli would, perhaps, make things somewhat easier. My wife is Ukrainian and she lives with me here (and she is not Jewish.) There are many good reasons for wanting to leave the U.S. no doubt politics being one of the most applicable. But ultimately the New World Order shall be established, with Jerusalem as its' world headquarters. The new Israeli Supreme Court Building is loaded with pagan, Masonic and occult symbolism. See: http://vigilantcitizen.com/si... ...I strongly recommend that you read the entire article, and ot just give it a cursory glance.
    Israel is not a 'democratic' State (as many in the Israeli government here would like to give, all who will believe it, the impression)! It is, in practice, an atheistic Oligarchy that does some special favors to 'religious Jews' here! See: http://sysspot.wordpress.com/...
    Israelis do have a well deserved reputation for being difficult people. This apparently goes all the way back to the Korach Rebellion against Moses himself. See: http://www.biblegateway.com/p...
    Many/most Israelis are infamous for being short on manners, customer service, honesty and accountability. In this sense they're a lot like Ukrainians.
    Despite its' being a 3rd world country, Israel is not an especially cheap place to live!
    But, when push comes to shove, Israelis help out their neighbors in times of trouble more than most Americans... or so it seems to me.
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  • Pronata... Melvin ... 2012/05/31 20:54:17
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Please read both of my nearly-consecutive replies. #2

    I am interested in things Jewish, but how can I show that I am sufficiently Jewish? I don't know of any grandparent that is Jewish or Israeli?

    Since you recently moved to Israel, how has your experience been? Do you have any interest in helping me?

    I would very much be interested in marrying an Israeli, however, that seems an iffy process, and I don't know how long it would take to find my soul-mate? Perhaps it happens almost instantly, and maybe Israel is my ticket to a far better life, or maybe it takes a few more years? I would like to find a plan that at least gets me Permanent Residency, and then I can find a wife later, to get citizenship, if it works out that way?

    So is Israel any temporary escape from the NWO nonsense? I know every country has its problems, but how do I compare a huge unknown (Israel) to a huge known - The United Slaves of America?

    Israelis are "difficult" in what way? A good way? A rewarding way, in that it may be worthwhile for me to move to Israel? I so much want to go to Israel, and yet, I can't quite understand why? I just don't know enough to explain it. I would probably know a few years after my move, but I need to know before, so as to know whether and how to go through the huge effort. I would h...









    Please read both of my nearly-consecutive replies. #2

    I am interested in things Jewish, but how can I show that I am sufficiently Jewish? I don't know of any grandparent that is Jewish or Israeli?

    Since you recently moved to Israel, how has your experience been? Do you have any interest in helping me?

    I would very much be interested in marrying an Israeli, however, that seems an iffy process, and I don't know how long it would take to find my soul-mate? Perhaps it happens almost instantly, and maybe Israel is my ticket to a far better life, or maybe it takes a few more years? I would like to find a plan that at least gets me Permanent Residency, and then I can find a wife later, to get citizenship, if it works out that way?

    So is Israel any temporary escape from the NWO nonsense? I know every country has its problems, but how do I compare a huge unknown (Israel) to a huge known - The United Slaves of America?

    Israelis are "difficult" in what way? A good way? A rewarding way, in that it may be worthwhile for me to move to Israel? I so much want to go to Israel, and yet, I can't quite understand why? I just don't know enough to explain it. I would probably know a few years after my move, but I need to know before, so as to know whether and how to go through the huge effort. I would have been happy to stay in the U.S., but I feel I don't belong here anymore, and the U.S. is becoming increasingly immoral and unstable, and time to escape could be running out? Even my pastor expects a false flag, but he won't specify, because he says he's "not a prophet."

    I've heard that many Jews are very friendly and hospitable, having learned something from being so persecuted and oppressed? If so, that's something severely lacking in the U.S. In the U.S., it's easy to make "fair weather" friends, but what good are they, when things get tough?

    From what I hear, there's wonderful places to live in Israel, and not-so-great places to live. I hear good things about Haifa.

    How is Israel "third world?" Many pockets of poverty?

    You said you recently moved to Israel. So did you have to learn Hebrew, and how well do you speak, read, and write Hebrew now?

    I don't have much money, so the cost-of-living is a big concern. I would probably look to buy a villa (house) outside the city, hoping for a more affordable price. I don't know that I would be allowed to have them just drop a shipping container, at some apartment complex. I'm not even sure how I would afford the process, since most of my money is tied up in the house I own now, which I would promptly sell upon leaving, provided I can have expectation that I can permanently stay. One of my main motivations, is to never again have to set foot inside of The United Slaves of America, if I don't want to.
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  • Melvin ... Pronata... 2012/06/06 17:33:02
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    Actually, I'll be happy to pass on to you whatever information that I have that might be of some use to you.
    Unless the 'laws' have changed, & I don't think that they have, all one needs to be able to prove is: one (1) Jewish parent (either mother or father) or have proof of a Jewish grandparent, in order to be considered Jewish. I proved 1 parent and 2 grandparents of mine to be Jewish! So, within 6 weeks of my application I had a Teudat Zehut (an Israeli I.D. card that indicated that 1.) I was Jewish [although not 'religious'] and 2.) an Israeli Citizen.
    Marrying an Israeli woman in Israel, if you're not Jewish, is according to Israeli law illegal and unacceptable to the government here, not to mention the, all too often wacky, local rabbis. So, don't even think of coming here and marrying an Israeli woman. It simply WILL NOT happen.
    Permanent residency in Israel is not easy to obtain, if you're not Jewish. I know of several non-Jewish married couples who have lived in Israel for the duration that their Visas [usually for a max.of 3 months] are valid, then go outside the country (often to Cyprus) spend a few weeks there, re-apply for a new Israeli Visa and often can obtain one fairly easily. If you have some sort of, what is deemed, by the Israeli government, a necessary...
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    Actually, I'll be happy to pass on to you whatever information that I have that might be of some use to you.
    Unless the 'laws' have changed, & I don't think that they have, all one needs to be able to prove is: one (1) Jewish parent (either mother or father) or have proof of a Jewish grandparent, in order to be considered Jewish. I proved 1 parent and 2 grandparents of mine to be Jewish! So, within 6 weeks of my application I had a Teudat Zehut (an Israeli I.D. card that indicated that 1.) I was Jewish [although not 'religious'] and 2.) an Israeli Citizen.
    Marrying an Israeli woman in Israel, if you're not Jewish, is according to Israeli law illegal and unacceptable to the government here, not to mention the, all too often wacky, local rabbis. So, don't even think of coming here and marrying an Israeli woman. It simply WILL NOT happen.
    Permanent residency in Israel is not easy to obtain, if you're not Jewish. I know of several non-Jewish married couples who have lived in Israel for the duration that their Visas [usually for a max.of 3 months] are valid, then go outside the country (often to Cyprus) spend a few weeks there, re-apply for a new Israeli Visa and often can obtain one fairly easily. If you have some sort of, what is deemed, by the Israeli government, a necessary skill, or professional expertise, that is not found among local Israelis, you may be granted a Permanent Residency, if the government has no objections to any of your activities here otherwise. The Israeli Ministry of the Interior (AKA the Misrad Ha-P'nim) takes each application for an A-5 [Residency Visa] case individually, with almost the same degree of thoroughly frustrating disinterest. If you're one to use foul language, [hopefully not] you might need to find some new and much stronger terms to adequately describe some of the workers at the Misrad Ha-P'nim.
    As far as living in Israel goes, without knowing any Hebrew, or Russian. it might be difficult. Most Israelis know at least some English, but seem to often prefer not to use it. Many Israelis tend to be highly suspicious, and very paranoid. Genuine Friendships here are not especially quick in getting established. Patience and long term proper integrity & character are essential here.
    Many, most, if not all Israelis tend to be far from reliable, honest, professional or displaying much of the higher qualities of human behavior especially when it comes to simple, common courtesy and/or consideration for others or manners. Some will go so far as to say that Israelis have no manners at all!
    My wife & I live in the far North of Israel, not very far from the Lebanese border. Haifa is, at times, referred to as Israels' version of Switzerland.' Just as in Switzerland, if you haven't got a lot of money, it's probably best not to look for a place to live there. I like Haifa, but it's just too pricey for us.
    Please take note of the following: As you may have already heard, Turkish diplomats in Israel have been recalled (sent home to Turkey.) i.e. Turkey has broken off diplomatic relations with Israel! This will likely hurt trade between the two nations, which has previously been mutually beneficial to the tune of many millions of Shekels per year.
    See: http://www.timesofisrael.com/...
    While this choice on the part of any Muslim country, even if previously known to be a non-radical one, shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, what many, who do not live in Israel, do not realize is the fact that Israelis themselves do not want to take vacations too close to other Israelis when ever they visit other countries. This statement obviously begs the question of 'why?' The answer should be obvious, but just in case it isn't, I'll elucidate!
    1.) Israel (as a nation) has a very large percentage of its' population which, almost fully predictably, demonstrates exceptionally bad manners, implacability, rudeness, arrogance and a host of other undesirable traits which no one in his/her right mind would want to be too near to anywhere, especially while on a vacation. I'm given to understand that one of the main reasons why most Israelis take vacations in the first place, is to get away from the 'balagan' (Hebrew for 'mess') associated with its' own people.
    The line Woody Allen once spouted comes to mind and surely seems apropos to me. That statement was:
    "I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member." See: http://beelisty.wordpress.com...

    I'd say, as no doubt many others would, that, 'wonderfully/comically not to mention politically weird,' Woody was alluding to the internationally infamous reputation that many/most Jewish people, especially Israelis, have and seem all too obviously in no wise interested in redeeming themselves therefrom.

    2. The average Israeli attitude seems to progressively 'head south,' within a relatively short space of time once the new 'Oleh,' arrives in the country. I've never seen anything in the U.S. to compare it unto among most [but not all] of my interactions with other American Jewish associates.

    To say that most Israelis have more than earned 'honorary citizenship' in The Shiffer Islands, is indeed a gross understatement. If you're familiar with Johnny Carsons' 'Shiffer Islands' joke you'll know exactly what I mean.

    On a brighter note, I have seen/heard/experienced a growing, and encouraging, attitude amongst some Israelis who share my opinion that being an Israeli has much more negative onus placed upon it than merely being surrounded by hostile or potentially hostile 'Neighbors.'
    Yet, seemingly, just when typically bad Israeli behavior seems to be getting on ones nerves, to the boiling point, a genuinely nice, decent, honorable and seldom to be found honest, Israeli will make an appearance in ones' life. God seems to know when we've had just about all we can take and has intercessory mercy upon us!
    Still, why anyone would want to take a vacation in Israel seems all but totally insane to me. Living in Israel without anticipating the return, or the arrival (depending on ones' viewpoint) of the Messiah, to me makes no sense at all! It is not possible to avoid the N.W.O. here!
    G4S is a security agency here that is openly known to be closely associated with Wackenhut, [see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    an oft used by American unofficial 'Black Opps' actions, is alive and well here in Israel. Most Israelis [even those who work for G4S] seem totally unaware of the 'dark' side of this organization.
    Blessings to all! amen.
    ,
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  • Pronata... Melvin ... 2012/06/06 18:10:48
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Thanks for your very long reply. Where else is there to go, if not yet to Israel? I want to escape the NWO enslavement. Isn't Haifa, a nice place to live, assuming there's any way to afford it? Or near Haifa?

    No, I did not understand the Johnny Carson joke.

    Lucky you, to get your Israeli status. How long have you lived in Israel? How do YOU like Israel, in spite of all the problems? What are the potential rewards, for those with faith and patience? Why did you move to Israel, and from where? I am VERY WILLING to learn my Hebrew, as I do NOT want to be a second-class citizen.

    What about going on a volunteer visa, as there's a place I'm considering volunteering for? They have some arrangement with the MOI in order to get accepted volunteers their volunteer visas. Will that help me get in? If I live in Israel, then I will definitely need the option to marry eventually, as I don't want to be single all my life. I would probably marry a Messianic, who could also quite possibly be a Jew. How do I work that? Somebody said something about leaving temporarily and getting married in another country? Wouldn't Messianics marry us?

    What status do I need in Israel, to start upon the basics of living there? To purchase a home? To open an Israeli bank account? To legally purchase or bring a car, ...





    Thanks for your very long reply. Where else is there to go, if not yet to Israel? I want to escape the NWO enslavement. Isn't Haifa, a nice place to live, assuming there's any way to afford it? Or near Haifa?

    No, I did not understand the Johnny Carson joke.

    Lucky you, to get your Israeli status. How long have you lived in Israel? How do YOU like Israel, in spite of all the problems? What are the potential rewards, for those with faith and patience? Why did you move to Israel, and from where? I am VERY WILLING to learn my Hebrew, as I do NOT want to be a second-class citizen.

    What about going on a volunteer visa, as there's a place I'm considering volunteering for? They have some arrangement with the MOI in order to get accepted volunteers their volunteer visas. Will that help me get in? If I live in Israel, then I will definitely need the option to marry eventually, as I don't want to be single all my life. I would probably marry a Messianic, who could also quite possibly be a Jew. How do I work that? Somebody said something about leaving temporarily and getting married in another country? Wouldn't Messianics marry us?

    What status do I need in Israel, to start upon the basics of living there? To purchase a home? To open an Israeli bank account? To legally purchase or bring a car, and to drive? Can I get a status that is reasonably secure, or should I expect it to be revoked at any time, for no reason at all?

    I don't think I have any special job skills, that I can think of right now. Maybe I could get a job, teaching social graces or manners? (a joke)

    I am not very interested in a visit or vacation to Israel, unless I think there may be some serious prospect of being able to permanently live there somehow. I don't want to be tantalized or tormented with what I can't have. So Jesus once walked there? So what? He's not there now.

    I need to escape The United Slaves of America somehow. What do you suggest?
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  • Melvin ... Pronata... 2012/06/07 09:06:37
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    A non-Israeli citizen may purchase property in Israel, but may not be able to remain in the country indefinitely. I hate to have to tell you that unless you've been here for some considerable time and/or speak Hebrew rather fluently you definitely will have difficulties here. A non-Israeli citizen cannot open an Israeli bank account! I know about this because my non-Jewish non-Israeli wife could not open one except as an add/on to my account, but not with full access to any funds therein. One must consult an attorney to do almost anything in business here. Even opening a simple bank account without knowing ALL of the ifs, buts and wherefores in advance can cause considerable economic woes. I know whereof I speak. Israeli banks don't have the reputation for being the biggest thieves in the country for nothing.
    Any 'marriage' in Israel by a Messianic minister or pastor [assuming one would do this, which I doubt] is null and void in the eyes of the Israeli government. This may change at some point in the future, but don'y hold your breath for it to happen anytime soon.
    Non-Jewish volunteers do get Visas to work here usually without a lot of trouble.
    Bringing a car here is possible, but not necessarily a good decision for any number of good reasons, WACKY internationally and in...
    A non-Israeli citizen may purchase property in Israel, but may not be able to remain in the country indefinitely. I hate to have to tell you that unless you've been here for some considerable time and/or speak Hebrew rather fluently you definitely will have difficulties here. A non-Israeli citizen cannot open an Israeli bank account! I know about this because my non-Jewish non-Israeli wife could not open one except as an add/on to my account, but not with full access to any funds therein. One must consult an attorney to do almost anything in business here. Even opening a simple bank account without knowing ALL of the ifs, buts and wherefores in advance can cause considerable economic woes. I know whereof I speak. Israeli banks don't have the reputation for being the biggest thieves in the country for nothing.
    Any 'marriage' in Israel by a Messianic minister or pastor [assuming one would do this, which I doubt] is null and void in the eyes of the Israeli government. This may change at some point in the future, but don'y hold your breath for it to happen anytime soon.
    Non-Jewish volunteers do get Visas to work here usually without a lot of trouble.
    Bringing a car here is possible, but not necessarily a good decision for any number of good reasons, WACKY internationally and infamously bad Israeli drivers being the main consideration. I will admit that they have improved since 1970 however. Most here drive in a manner which would, in the States,' most likely result in a ticket for 'aggressive driving.'
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  • Pronata... Melvin ... 2012/06/07 16:42:42
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    So does that mean, that I'm not likely to be stopped by cops, for "revenue enhancement" purposes or for DUI checkpoints? I'm a very good driver and don't drink, yet The United Slaves of America cops, disregard the 4th Amendment anyway.

    If my only hurdle was having to become fluent in Hebrew, I would have to say "No Problem." I'm sure that God can enable my old mind to learn a new language, over time with some work, at the very least. According to the Book of Jasher, an angel came and taught Joseph the 70 languages in one night?, so he could rule as second-in-command of Egypt.

    Do you see any signs that things might open up soon, to people like me?
  • Chi~Cat Melvin ... 2012/06/04 03:51:28
    Chi~Cat
    +1
    I like what you conveyed, I will learn more. Thank you.
  • Melvin ... Chi~Cat 2012/06/06 17:40:22
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    +1
    Glad to be of assistance! If you have any specific questions, just state them & I'll do my best to answer them openly and honestly.
    I had a wonderfully warm, caring, honest responsible for his actions and loving father who was Jewish. When i first saw the widespread dishonesty and outright fraud and theft that occurred here I was totally dismayed, disgusted and not a little depressed. But, I have come to see that my Jewish father was definitely not much like most Israeli Jews. I thank God greatly for that!
  • Chi~Cat Melvin ... 2012/06/06 17:48:33
    Chi~Cat
    Can we do this in private mail?
  • Melvin ... Chi~Cat 2012/06/07 08:47:10
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    +1
    If you like you can write to me at: melcownzowfsky@gmail.com However, please understand 1.) I am married and 2.) over 69 years of age. Just so you understand clearly that I'm not interested in anything of anything 'extracurricular 'in nature.
  • Chi~Cat Melvin ... 2012/06/07 08:52:01
    Chi~Cat
    ty! I will! Oh, gosh, I understand. I say what I mean and mean what I say.
  • Melvin ... Melvin ... 2012/06/07 08:42:01
    Melvin Cownzowfski
    +1
    In my previous comment r.e. my not knowing why anyone in his/her right mind would want to actually take a vacation in Israel completely disregarded the obvious rich historical and Biblical significance of the land. Compared to several U.S. States, (especially most, if not all of the Southern States) Israeli is BY FAR a much more desirable place to live and/or visit, based upon scenery and climate alone. My main focus, and reason for saying what I did in my previous comment was based entirely on the 'You're here, so what?' attitude displayed by most Israelis, is not likely to cause many people to ever want to return for a convenient, service oriented sort of a vacation! In short Israels' people need to grow up and see that it would be in their best interest, not only in the way people in other countries view Israelis, but in the best interests of their pocketbooks as well!
  • Pronata... Melvin ... 2012/06/07 16:51:56
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    I rather feel like, what do I care about the scenery? So Israel is the land of the Bible? So what? I am not an outdoor person, and I don't just want to visit. I want a good place TO LIVE, that is NOT The United Slaves of America. I am so sick of America's crap.

    Of course, I may feel much different, once I actually get to see Israel. A friend says something or other, about an "anointing" of the land.

    The warm climate, I do believe I would enjoy.

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