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How many days per year does a teacher work?

The Govenor 2011/03/02 03:49:14
The average American worker:
52 weeks x 5 Days/week = 260 Days
4 weeks vacation/year = -16 Days*
10 holidays/year= -10
3 sick days/year= -3
3 personal days/year= -3
Total days worked 228 Days/ year
* 4 weeks vacation AFTER 4-5 years of employment
Work day is 8 hours WORK with 1/2 hr. unpaid lunch and 2/15 minutes break/day

The average teacher:
School year = 180 days
14 Holidays/year= -14
5 personal days/year= -5
7 Sick days/year- -7
? Vacation days/year= ? *
Total days worked 154 Days/ year
*I have heard rumors teachers get vacation time as well but not confirmed
Work day is 7 hours including a 1/2 hour PAID lunch and one hour FREE period/day

Now I know all the teachers are going to cry about ALL the EXTRA time they put in at home and the "continuing" education they have to do.
Here is the solution: Work an 8 hour day with an unpaid lunch like the rest of us and you can get it all done in school! What a novel concept, huh?
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  • Non-Profit 2012/12/17 16:56:33
    Non-Profit
    +10
    I do appreciate all the teachers explaining how they even feasibly work as hard as most professionals. I have a masters degree, as well as a LCSW. I get paid 40,800 and I am on call twenty four hours a day. Monday through Friday 9-5 if there is no crisis. Typically I have to work 44-46 hours a week on an easy week as I have 15 employees to supervise. As this is a behavioral health field there is most certainly always a crisis. Oh yeah, teachers I also work 52 weeks a year. You claim to not be paid for the summer, by your calculations how much do you deserve to get paid if you worked during the summer? And please stop feeding yourselves the bullcrap that you put in so much extra work. You don't, I know many teachers. Recently during Hurricane Sandy I had to work and go out in the storm as I am a mental health professional while teachers got to sit home and get paid. Quit your griping you are overpaid and underworked. Period.

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  • carlea 6 days ago
    carlea
    +3
    I have long said teachers complain too much about being overworked and underpaid. This is just a load of crap. They get holidays off, delays or days off because of the weather. Who else has a two hour delay because its too cold or there is too much snow. They have early dismissals. On top of their salary (they get a raise every year which the average American does not see) they have fantastic benefits often times for their entire family, a retirement plan and yet they still complain. They have to do continuing education and that takes time....ok so do doctors lawyers accounts and so many other professionals. Many teachers take days off or are paid by the school district for these requirements.

    They talk about all the extra time they put in and are not paid for it. Many doctors are paid a salary and are on call 24/7 and not paid for the extra time. Lawyers often research their cases on their own time which they are not paid for. Accountants are often expected to work 60-80 hour week during tax season and aren't paid any extra for that. So before teachers start complaining that they are doing more work look at other professions.
  • Beelzebub 2013/04/04 17:06:32
    Beelzebub
    +3
    Bitter much? The number of workdays you have posted is the best case scenario with a school observing all holidays... that's not reality. You seem to not know that "free Period" is a planning period that is often a structured period,.. not free at all,... and not all teachers have them (middle and elementary). You also fail to understand that teachers are required to provide additional instructional time to students as part of their contract and they are required to attend classes to maintain their certification,.. which usually happens in the summer. Sure,.. add it all up and a person with similar education may work more,.. but I bet they get PAID a heck of a lot more as well.
  • carlea Beelzebub 6 days ago
    carlea
    +1
    i know a lot of teachers that do their education during school not during the summer as you say. and a free period is a free period. many of them go home or do whatever. they are contracted so they get regular raises
  • Pat Bridgewater 2013/03/09 16:38:15
    Pat Bridgewater
    +2
    Before you decide that looking at numbers makes you an expert, SPEND A FEW DAYS TEACHING IN A CLASSROOM -- preferably a middle school or high school class. #1: Teachers are on a salary -- NOT on a per-hour wage -- so that eliminates the "paid lunch." #2: I notice you didn't factor in private sessions with students, recess and lunchroom duties, and the endless hours spent satisfying government requirements. #3. Teachers who teach core curriculum subjects often spend 4 - 6 hours of their PRIVATE time grading student papers -- which explains why teachers are salaried rather than paid by the hour. #4. Most teachers put in at least 8 hours a day at school. #5. KNOW what you're talking about before you speak. Your comments sound like a disgruntled student. #5. I'm not sure of today's salaries, but I do know that 15 years ago in our area a teacher with a master's degree and over 10 years of experience who had two or more children qualified for food stamps. #6, I do know that even today a teacher in the middle of this country makes LESS than a cocktail hostess at a casino!
  • carlea Pat Bri... 6 days ago
    carlea
    +2
    teachers in my area start at 35K. i know people who work 5-7 days a week 52 weeks a year and don't make that. plus the benefits teachers get. i am guessing you are a teacher.
  • Andrew the Analyst 2013/03/08 19:30:17
    Andrew the Analyst
    +3
    I did the Math (Thank you Excell)
    Assumptions: Both non-teachers and teachers work an 8 hour day,

    According to the National Center for Education Statisitics http://nces.ed.gov/programs/d...
    The Average Salary for a Public School Teacher 2010-2011 was $56,069

    If the average public school teacher works 154 Days per year that's $45.51 PER HOUR! Plus all those great benefits and tax loop holes. Not to mention tenure!

    If the average teacher works 228 days a year (YEA RIGHT) that's still $30.74 AN HOUR.

    The lesson is...
    Stop telling your kids to be doctors & lawyers. Forget starting your own business! Tell those MBA accountants to ditch the long nights at the office. It doesn't take a PHD in economics to tell you that teachers make way to much. Looks like the best kept career secret is to become a public school teacher... A shame they don't teach that.
  • creamyturtle 2013/03/07 02:05:36
    creamyturtle
    +3
    I've been waiting to see a post like this on the 'net. Everyday I see these stupid memes on facebook from people I went to college with talking about how "hard" teachers work and how under-appreciated they are. Kiss my ass you lazy bums. It's babysitting on wheels!! Once you have built a lesson plan (in year one), the rest is cake. You just sit back and teach the same lecture 4 times a day, year after year. My brain wouldn't even turn on for that.

    I was talking to my brother yesterday, and he works 60 hour weeks as an engineer at 3M. Thats five, twelve hour days. Never have I heard of a teacher working from 6:30 am to 6:30 pm--I don't care how many papers you have to grade. He gets measured on a scale of 1 to 5 every quarter and his pay is tied to these evaluations.

    Keep whining teachers! We all know the real reason you guys are complaining is because you picked the wrong major in college or didn't get good enough grades to land a real career. It's not the private sector's fault that you couldn't hack it, sorry.
  • Non-Profit 2012/12/17 16:56:33
    Non-Profit
    +10
    I do appreciate all the teachers explaining how they even feasibly work as hard as most professionals. I have a masters degree, as well as a LCSW. I get paid 40,800 and I am on call twenty four hours a day. Monday through Friday 9-5 if there is no crisis. Typically I have to work 44-46 hours a week on an easy week as I have 15 employees to supervise. As this is a behavioral health field there is most certainly always a crisis. Oh yeah, teachers I also work 52 weeks a year. You claim to not be paid for the summer, by your calculations how much do you deserve to get paid if you worked during the summer? And please stop feeding yourselves the bullcrap that you put in so much extra work. You don't, I know many teachers. Recently during Hurricane Sandy I had to work and go out in the storm as I am a mental health professional while teachers got to sit home and get paid. Quit your griping you are overpaid and underworked. Period.
  • The Gov... Non-Profit 2012/12/17 17:02:05
    The Govenor
    I couldn't agree more.
  • wayne fazio 2012/11/20 16:15:42
    wayne fazio
    +10
    What does the average full time teacher get per hour?
  • The Gov... wayne f... 2012/11/20 16:38:56
    The Govenor
    It varies but one respondent here put it at over $100/hour in Wisconsin with benefits.
  • carlea wayne f... 6 days ago
    carlea
    +1
    in my area which is not a rich area teachers are paid 35k to start (right out of college with NO experience)
  • MDTeacher 2012/11/14 19:11:56
    MDTeacher
    +1
    If pay reflects hours worked why do we pay Congress so much? In fact 46% of congress are millionaires and they qualify for a pension after just 5 years of work...Therefore the argument that teachers deserve less because they "work less" holds no water...
  • The Gov... MDTeacher 2012/11/15 01:42:52
    The Govenor
    Take that up with congress. This post is about the greedy teachers.
  • MDTeacher 2012/11/14 19:07:19
    MDTeacher
    Congress works fewer days(averages 90+days off)...gets less done(bills passed) and makes an average of $174,000 a year...
  • The Gov... MDTeacher 2012/11/15 01:44:40
    The Govenor
    Heyyyyyyyyyy, another crying teacher who joined SH just to reply to my post. You bloodsuckers make me sooooooooo proud.
  • Charli 2012/09/20 06:51:41
    Charli
    +2
    Oh dear... Now I've worked in the typical 8 hour a day job etc and I've also worked as a teacher. You have it soooo wrong...

    A teacher will arrive in school any time between 7-8.15. (not like a typical 8 hour job), Works through lunch by delivering extra-curricular activities, meetings with students etc (unlike standard 8 hour jobs),
    Extra 'FREE' period?? PLANNING is what they do with it. You know, like a project manager might need to PLAN something before they go ahead etc - Yea teachers do the same. Planning resources (made from scratch) etc. As they also have to PROVE that they have taught the syllabus etc so that 1 childs low grade doesn't fall on their neck. If there's no planning - their is always many other things, like marking, reporting, duties.. the list is endless

    Oh and around about 5pm is when most teachers leave school - after MORE planning, meetings, insets, twilight sessions (no, not the vampire book) - and even later if they actually do extra-curricular activities, sixth form evenings, parents evenings (14 hour days)

    So on average that's 10 hours right? Working all the way through?

    Hmm that's what I thought. Maybe people shouldn't be so judging unless they know the facts and perhaps survived a day/year of it themselves.
  • The Gov... Charli 2012/09/20 11:57:00
    The Govenor
    +1
    Go try to sell this pack of lies to somebody who might actually believe you.
  • The Gov... Charli 2012/09/20 11:58:57
    The Govenor
    BTW- another person who joined SH just to respond to my question. You people just keep flattering me, lol.
  • carlea Charli 6 days ago
    carlea
    +3
    i worked in several school districts and have seen the proof that this is a total load of crap. free period teachers were leaving to go to the bank or run other errands. with the exception of a few teachers they didn't arrive much before the students and only the teachers who also coached were there late. most of the teachers were out the door right behind the kids. and on lunch, they were in the teachers lounge eating with their coworkers.
  • Dale VanLaningham 2012/09/15 21:26:30
    Dale VanLaningham
    +3
    Your answer has several mistakes. Every state and district has different numbers but here are averages. First, you did not include the 5-10 days per year for Inservice work. Second, teachers do not receive 5 personal days per year, it's more like 2. You cannot deduct holidays because they are already built into the calendar. So using CORRECT facts, a teacher works between 185 - 190 days per year. Also, many districts in my area send their students to school for more days than the state mandated of 180, meaning teachers are working closer to 200 days per year. That's still less the others, but take home work should be included. Teachers are not able to do their work at work because they are...wait for it.... Teaching! You can't grade papers when you are teaching! Teachers will trade the 60-90 minutes of workday time you are still "working", if you will take the 2-4 hours of take home work they do most days.
  • The Gov... Dale Va... 2012/09/15 23:08:52
    The Govenor
    Sorry, we aren't buying it.
  • The Gov... Dale Va... 2012/09/15 23:10:16
    The Govenor
    Heyyyyyyyyy, another "one timer" who came to SH just for my post. You people are soooooooo flattering. Thank you.
  • carlea Dale Va... 6 days ago
    carlea
    +3
    you still get personal days, you still get sick days so you arne't working 185-190 days a year.
  • Orion-Eridanus 2012/07/23 07:13:36
    Orion-Eridanus
    +3
    This is not accurate. Why don't you actually look at a contract. It is typically 180 days per year, and that already has the holidays taken out. In addition they have to pay their own tuition at typical college tuition rates for the continuing ed they are REQUIRED to take. D


    Do they still work fewer days than the typical 9 to 5 er? Sure. But they also are paid proportionately less given their years of education. I have an M.S. and work in private industry making around three times as much as a similarly educated HS science teacher. I hope to teach some day, once I have saved up enough to be able to afford to do so. Oh, and I will only be allowed to teach after I go back to school darn near full time for another two years and then take a battery of licensing exams. The reason you have a dearth of math and science teachers in the schools is they get paid squat compared to what they could make as an engineer or scientist and it is a pain in the neck to get in.
  • The Gov... Orion-E... 2012/07/23 23:28:44
    The Govenor
    +1
    My heart bleeds for the liberal, greedy, union driven teachers who could care less about their students. Not, lol.
  • The Gov... Orion-E... 2012/07/23 23:31:36
    The Govenor
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Another sock puppet who joined SH just to respond to my question. You people flatter me.
  • Emmanue... Orion-E... 2012/07/26 00:38:41
    Emmanuel A. Vincent, M. Ed
    I agree with you 100 percent. I applied at several locations, and the school district called me first.
  • mdaniels 2012/05/14 18:05:23
    mdaniels
    +4
    The average teacher figures are a joke. They may resemble the required contract days, but all of the teachers that I know (my wife and all of her friends) do work. My wife typically works 12 hour days and works until the end of June and starts up in beginning to mid August. I have first hand knowledge about how much teachers work from living with a teacher and being friends with teachers. Where do you get your info?
  • diane RN mdaniels 2012/05/14 18:37:52
    diane RN
    +1
    I will repeat it again....thechampion.org
    Illinois taxpayers website with teachers salaries and pensions
  • The Gov... mdaniels 2012/05/15 03:32:15
  • The Gov... mdaniels 2012/05/15 03:34:50
    The Govenor
    +1
    Wow, you flatter me. You join SH just to respond to my post from 14 months ago.

    See ya around!!!
  • Roxanne 2012/04/19 14:03:59
    Roxanne
    +4
    Really? You think teachers don't work our butts off? Come do it for a day! We are paid for 200 work days. We are not paid for Christmas, Easter, or other holidays. We are only paid for days we work and not much at that. We have to deal with nasty parents, kids who don't do a thing and people who think we don't actually work. I teach language arts to 20 5th graders and science to grades 5-8, thats seven different subjects in a day to 11-14 year olds. You don't think we need to PLAN for those things?
    My husband is a business executive and he subbed for me one day and said he could never do this job. It takes A LOT to be a teacher.
  • The Gov... Roxanne 2012/04/19 14:08:10
    The Govenor
    +1
    It takes a LOT to be a garbage man but then again, he would also be a gubbment employee.
  • diane RN Roxanne 2012/04/19 22:07:13
    diane RN
    +1
    thechampion.org Illinois taxpayers website with teachers salaries and pensions....
    "Apparently there is no tax money for the barren shelves at food pantries or the lack of beds at homeless shelters or to support the handicapped. But there IS enough tax money to pay for:
    A Phys. Ed teacher $203,154 for a 9 month work year.
    14,866 teachers made more than $100,000 in 2011.
    21 who made more over $1,000/day ($170,000/yr.)
    A Drivers Ed teacher who salary is $18,222/month to teach teenagers how to parallel park.
    13 teachers make more than the Governor’s $177,500.
    Top 100 Teachers average $18,169 per month salary ($163,579/yr).
    And all of that is for a 36-week work-year (182 day contracts)."
  • The Gov... diane RN 2012/04/20 02:13:28
    The Govenor
    +1
    How dare you!!! You know facts and liberals don't get along.
  • diane RN The Gov... 2012/04/21 02:52:09
    diane RN
    +1
    Best part of this whole scam is, in Illinois teachers are required to pay 9.4 toward their pension but guess what?? The state picks up half and the other half is USUALLY picked up by the district. Taxpayers, wake up, you are being raped!
  • The Gov... diane RN 2012/04/21 03:49:30
    The Govenor
    +1
    BIG time!!!
  • Charli diane RN 2012/09/20 06:59:19
    Charli
    +3
    Wow... well according to your facts then we should all work at school in America!!
  • The Gov... Charli 2012/09/20 11:56:19
    The Govenor
    Now you're catching on.

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