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It's not looking good. Talks to raise the debt ceiling are dragging on with less than two weeks to go before our nation goes into default. While some Conservatives have pooh-poohed the talk of financial Armageddon, at the very least the failure to raise the borrowing limit will call for immediate, drastic cuts to our infrastructure.

Hell, that's not so bad, right? As it is, the GOP has been complaining for most of the Obama administration about the typical liberal orgy of spending, so a bit of a haircut is probably in order. Luckily, The Atlantic magazine broke down a few of the things that will have to be immediately jettisoned if a deal isn't met.

Don't worry, there will still be money to pay for Social Security, Medicare, interest payments on the debt, military payrolls and veteran's benefits. But what will go away overnight? No biggie.

-- No more maintenance or security of the nation's nuclear arsenal.
-- Get out of jail free cards for all our federal prisoners, because none of the guards will be paid and vendors will not deliver food, medical supplies, electricity, etc.
-- No one watching the border stations and all illegal immigrants currently in detention set free because we don't have the money to put them on a plane and send them home.
-- No fuel or electricity for our troops abroad, leaving them stuck in the desert with billions of dollars worth of equipment.
-- Forget about taking a trip overseas, since all of our embassies would have to close down.
-- No help from the federal government to fight wildfires or floods.
-- All those people living in housing projects put out in the street since their Section 8 vouchers would not be paid.
-- Home-schooling for all you public school kids, since that federal money for local school districts won't be in the mail and teachers won't get paid.
-- Oh, and forget about those guaranteed student loans for college.
-- Also, no more mortgage market, no more TSA to guard our airports, or air traffic controllers, for that matter and no more unemployment payments for the out of work.

Does 40 percent less government sound good to you?
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  • MichaelDillon 2011/10/22 22:09:59
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    MichaelDillon
    GOOD, but I will bet almost anything that if you don't remember the law of unintended consequences before you start hacking away you will be very sorry. Measure twice cut once! saw off limb
  • Student 2011/07/29 20:50:44
    It sounds dismal
    Student
    From what I have heard, third world countries are like this. The residents leave & sometimes return to visit but are not happy about the conditions.
  • corcora... Student 2011/08/01 19:40:54
    corcoranllg
    We are talking about the USA, and if you are in that conversation, then you're mistaken, its just the opposite. Private business feeds our government with taxes. If the private sector is smaller than the government, then each working sole will need to pay more and more raising to 30 - 70% of their paychecks to pay for the top heavy government. If we cut back on government, then there is less ability for countless fraudulent activity ... go look at the USdebtclock.org to see what we owe. (Each citizen currently owes $47,000 for this debt.)
  • MadAsHEck corcora... 2011/10/22 21:51:31 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    The Government is now the largest Employer in the Country. Wal Mart has dropped to second.

    With about 2.0 million civilian employees, the Federal Government, excluding the Postal Service, is the Nation's largest employer.
    About 85 percent of Federal employees work outside the Washington, DC metropolitan area.
    A substantial number of job openings will arise as many Federal workers are expected to retire over the next decade; competition is high during times of economic uncertainty, however, when workers seek the stability of Federal employment.

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs...


    Problem explained in one sentence. When the Tax Consuming part of the economy is larger than the tax producing part of the economy, it's pretty clear what the problem is.
  • sha_lyn68 2011/07/24 15:14:40
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    sha_lyn68
    +1
    Great as long as we go back and limit the federal gov to what was its intended scope. Almost everything on your list should not be in control off the federal government. The only things on the list that should not be eliminated in the military and border security.
    Prisons, education, welfare etc should all be state or local matters.
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2011/07/24 05:58:05
    It sounds awesome
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +2
    Forty percent less government would be way to good to be true.
  • Joseph E. Bowker, CMSgt, US... 2011/07/24 04:36:10
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    Joseph E. Bowker, CMSgt, USAF (Ret)
    +1
    Anti American. People want to be citizens of a great nation, and then work really hard to take aways it's basic strength. You want a Military - you gotta pay for a Military. Ya want the Government to protect the Weakest from the most Powerful, the second most important thing a Government is expected to do ya gotta pay for it. Contrary tpo what the Conservative Politricians say, it is not your Money, it is a payment for a good Government, where the Government monitors and regulates the Greed of the Fascist stealing us blind. Of course they want to talk you out of that, don't they?
  • corcora... Joseph ... 2011/08/01 19:36:35
    corcoranllg
    I kindly disagree sir, too big means too unaccountable. Military is good. Paved roads are good. Our schools are dismal, even with more money year after year. If they did great jobs in the government work, then I would agree...but too often the work duplicitous and filled with errors, no accountability and little loyalty. The politicians and special interests are part of this problem -and yes, I know I'm over simplifying.
  • Manwé 2011/07/23 23:29:54
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    Manwé
    +1
    I think it will sound wonderful for some so long as the cuts don't effect their lives directly. Then watch them scream. The current administration has actually cut federal jobs and one of the first things the President ordered was a review of each agency. There is a responsible way to cut government and then there is the slash and burn method some want to use.
  • Todd *RP 2012* 2011/07/23 23:24:06
    It sounds awesome
    Todd *RP 2012*
    +1
    let's try cutting out more bureaucrats! and come up with a tax code anyone can understand. As it stands, not even tax professionals and IRS employees can understand it!
  • ur XLNC-PWCM 2011/07/23 22:56:50
    It sounds awesome
    ur XLNC-PWCM
    Pie in the Sky...but what a concept! After reading the blog...what are we dallying for...let's default and get rid of these jerks that put us in this debacle!
  • Boulder Sue 2011/07/23 20:26:31 (edited)
    It sounds dismal
    Boulder Sue
    +4
    And what part of te government for each of you out there would you Give up? Infrastructure maintemance, such as it is (our oerall grade is "D"), unless if you are one of those complainng a bout Obama talking about taxing people with corporate jets a little more (you really should, you know), you don't care.You can always leave if there are too many cracks in the road (assuming your municipal airport runways are OK to use and you don't mind flying without air taffic controllers), no police or firemen,no city light in downtowns---bad for business, tripping over people sleeping ( or sick or dying) in the streets, natural disasters (oh well! It must be the will of "god"), any of the above consequences. You can just fly off in your untaxed jet, on your undertaxed dividend "earnings" and find a place more pleasant where people have pride in their country, pay their taxes as they can afford them, (it's called progressive taxation---ooooh! That word: progressive!) including taking care of each other and the country itself, do not want to sink us into third world status with trains that don't run, highways and cities and town become overgrown with weeds as they tumble into disrepair. people drawing their water from the a well that hopefully contains potable water (by hand) or make a fe...
    And what part of te government for each of you out there would you Give up? Infrastructure maintemance, such as it is (our oerall grade is "D"), unless if you are one of those complainng a bout Obama talking about taxing people with corporate jets a little more (you really should, you know), you don't care.You can always leave if there are too many cracks in the road (assuming your municipal airport runways are OK to use and you don't mind flying without air taffic controllers), no police or firemen,no city light in downtowns---bad for business, tripping over people sleeping ( or sick or dying) in the streets, natural disasters (oh well! It must be the will of "god"), any of the above consequences. You can just fly off in your untaxed jet, on your undertaxed dividend "earnings" and find a place more pleasant where people have pride in their country, pay their taxes as they can afford them, (it's called progressive taxation---ooooh! That word: progressive!) including taking care of each other and the country itself, do not want to sink us into third world status with trains that don't run, highways and cities and town become overgrown with weeds as they tumble into disrepair. people drawing their water from the a well that hopefully contains potable water (by hand) or make a few trips to the nearest creek, with the same hope, and realize that sometimes it really does take a village, in this case a country. You can always live off the bounty and generosity of another country and never have to pay a dime toward keeping it together as a country. Of yeah! So when did you say you were leaving? Better be fast before the airport you use crumples and you are not yet in danger of a collision with someone else..... BYE-BYE!
    (more)
  • carolynb Boulder... 2011/07/24 13:00:10 (edited)
    carolynb
    +2
    Right on!!! you nailed it
  • Marty9957 2011/07/23 20:10:01
    It sounds awesome
    Marty9957
    +1
    So what's the down side?
  • Joseph ... Marty9957 2011/07/24 04:43:29 (edited)
    Joseph E. Bowker, CMSgt, USAF (Ret)
    +2
    Ya wanna cheapen up on the Government so you don't have to pay taxes? Well, you live in the wrong country. Consider moving to Somalia, where they have no Government, so you pay no taxes, and you can have any amount of guns the Thug next to ya won't take from ya. Well, take some water, and food, all they have for ya there is Kott, a drug you will like with no Government to pay the Police to arrest ya. You will do much better in Somalia than in my beloved nation, the U.S. of A. drug government pay police arrest ya somalia beloved nation Armed Somalians drug government pay police arrest ya somalia beloved nation Armed Somalians
  • wamcalif 2011/07/23 20:07:41
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    wamcalif
    empty congress

    Could work. Any volunteers?
  • Ukie 2011/07/23 19:48:42
    It sounds awesome
    Ukie
    How about 60% less government....? 60 government Big government kills
  • Joseph ... Ukie 2011/07/24 04:45:50 (edited)
  • Dugger712 Joseph ... 2011/07/24 18:50:30
    Dugger712
    +1
    Love it. Great post!
  • Redskin 2011/07/23 19:42:47
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    Redskin
  • Apache 2011/07/23 19:40:20
  • Marty9957 Apache 2011/07/23 20:12:55
    Marty9957
    +4
    If they would only concentrate on those things clearly enumerated in the constitution as the responsibility of the federal government, 20% should be more than enough.
  • Boulder... Marty9957 2011/07/23 20:30:40
    Boulder Sue
    +1
    Fools!
  • Marty9957 Boulder... 2011/07/23 20:50:45
    Marty9957
    +1
    Could you please put a face on your comment so I know how to reply?
  • Joseph ... Marty9957 2011/07/24 04:48:18
    Joseph E. Bowker, CMSgt, USAF (Ret)
    +1
    ...does "Stupid Fools! Help?" stupid fools
  • Apache Boulder... 2011/07/24 03:12:22
  • Ukie Apache 2011/07/24 17:44:46
  • Nonstoppolitics 2011/07/23 18:57:23
    It sounds dismal
    Nonstoppolitics
    +1
    "Less government" is a catchy mantra, but it's something that should be negotiated by fiscal responsibility not forced. I'm not against spending limits and our country living within its means, but with a combination of revenue and responsible spending cuts, popular and successful programs can be funded while the debt can remain manageable.
  • Anonymouse ~superdoge~ 2011/07/23 18:46:04
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    Anonymouse ~superdoge~
    +1
    As long as it's the bureaucracy and backbenchers that get the Axe, but society still needs to be represented more equally, there are a lot more White middle class people in government than in society...
  • Mr.Steve 2011/07/23 18:42:35
  • corcoranllg 2011/07/23 17:57:24
    It sounds awesome
    corcoranllg
    +2
    The Government is Obese - let me be clear... big, fat and stupid.
  • Dugger712 2011/07/23 17:47:36
    It sounds dismal
    Dugger712
    +3
    These wild eyed tea party patriots might get just what they are wishing for.
  • Joseph ... Dugger712 2011/07/24 04:49:53
    Joseph E. Bowker, CMSgt, USAF (Ret)
    +1
    Ya'all mean Teabaggers and/or Kochsuckers??? yaall teabaggers andor kochsuckers Teabagger yaall teabaggers andor kochsuckers Kochsuckers
  • Annie~P... Dugger712 2011/07/24 06:00:13
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Hopefully
  • jams 2011/07/23 17:32:33
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    jams
    +4
    Sounds like somebody doesn't want to pay the bill they rang up.
  • relic 2011/07/23 17:22:10
    It sounds awesome
    relic
    +2
    40% would be a start. We need far less government that 60% of the bloat that's there now.
  • templer003 2011/07/23 17:04:34
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    templer003
    +2
    It is a start...50% would be bettter...
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2011/07/23 16:57:14
    I think 40 percent less government sounds ...
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +2
    it sounds to me like they are cutting costs in the wrong spots
    how about cutting the payroll of congress to start and stop spending entirely too much on simple everyday items. it is the waste that is killing us. if they would quit wasting so much it would fix a large part of the problem
  • MadAsHEck Richard... 2011/07/23 18:13:11
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    Like studies of Shrimp on treadmills, or the size of Gay Mens Penis's, etc etc.

    Those are real you know, and withg your tax dollars at that.
  • Richard... MadAsHEck 2011/07/24 08:25:25
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    exactly
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