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How Do You Talk About Black Unemployment Without Talking About Government Jobs?

Samantha 2012/07/11 16:35:06
If the Republicans are so concerned about unemployment among African Americans, they wouldn't advocate eliminating more jobs from the public sector. However, conservatives don't have a reputation for being consistent.

I'm waiting to see what else Romney says about it, but the pre-speech part of his NAACP remarks that dealt with unemployment deserves another look.

The unemployment rate, the duration of unemployment, average income, and median family wealth are all worse for the black community. In June, while the overall unemployment rate remained stuck at 8.2 percent, the unemployment rate for African Americans actually went up, from 13.6 percent to 14.4 percent.

Republicans love this statistic -- iron-clad proof that the first black president has been a disaster for blacks. What's usually left unsaid is the the role that public sector lay-offs have had in pumping up those numbers. Black Americans tend to seek government jobs, historically more stable than the private sector, at a higher rate than other Americans.

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  • Jester M.S. 2012/07/11 16:49:33 (edited)
    Jester M.S.
    The African American unemployment rare is much higher than the national average according to the department of labor, sitting at just over 14%.

    Public sector jobs are indeed beneficial to minorities, as they implement hiring quotas that favor using a race determinant for employment rather than strength of experience or resume. Numerous lawsuits have been filed in federal courts by non-minorities for discrimination in hiring practices because of this (with the most notable case involving Detroit International Airport).

    That said, public sector hiring is something that is administered by state and local governments, not federal. So dragging Romney into the discussion as a presidential candidate is fairly irrelevant, as he will have no power over such matters, only active state governors do.

    Moreover, public sectors can and are leading many city governments into possible bankruptcy because of reckless spending and irresponsible stewardship. Over 100 cities and municipalities in California alone are either currently insolvent and seeking assistance, or treading water by slicing budgets in an attempt to avoid the inevitable. Mayors and Governors are faced with a tough reality in this situation, either cut programs or go broke.

    African Americans (and indeed, everybody) are going t...
    The African American unemployment rare is much higher than the national average according to the department of labor, sitting at just over 14%.

    Public sector jobs are indeed beneficial to minorities, as they implement hiring quotas that favor using a race determinant for employment rather than strength of experience or resume. Numerous lawsuits have been filed in federal courts by non-minorities for discrimination in hiring practices because of this (with the most notable case involving Detroit International Airport).

    That said, public sector hiring is something that is administered by state and local governments, not federal. So dragging Romney into the discussion as a presidential candidate is fairly irrelevant, as he will have no power over such matters, only active state governors do.

    Moreover, public sectors can and are leading many city governments into possible bankruptcy because of reckless spending and irresponsible stewardship. Over 100 cities and municipalities in California alone are either currently insolvent and seeking assistance, or treading water by slicing budgets in an attempt to avoid the inevitable. Mayors and Governors are faced with a tough reality in this situation, either cut programs or go broke.

    African Americans (and indeed, everybody) are going to have to largely turn their passions and talents to the private sector if the plan to make a decent living. The days of depending on uncle sam to bail them out are rapidly coming to an end.
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  • Samantha Jester ... 2012/07/11 16:52:24 (edited)
    Samantha
    There are public sector jobs in the federal government and Romney can be brought into the discussion since he proposes eliminating many of those jobs. As for hiring minorities in federal jobs, for decades those jobs weren't accessible to minorities because of affirmative action that favored white applicants, especially white males. Therefore, your argument isn't valid and is just another attempt to justify policies that greatly harm minorities.

    By the way, the group that has benefited the most from affirmative action is white women.
  • Sport_G... Samantha 2012/07/11 17:13:03
    Sport_Geoff
    +1
    Affirmative action policy had absolutely nothing to do with hiring white males or white applicants over minorities. It was just the opposite....If two people applied for a job and were equally qualified the minority was hired. In civil service testing minority applicants who score lower on test were hired because of minority status.

    You have no idea what your talking about when it comes to affirmative action...

    charlie brown arghh
  • Samantha Sport_G... 2012/07/11 17:17:28
    Samantha
    Of course it did because there were discriminatory policies in place. Prior to affirmative action laws, white privilege existed in many areas of employment. Of course, you don't know our history so your post is understandable.
  • Sport_G... Samantha 2012/07/11 17:47:17
    Sport_Geoff
    I lived through the introduction of Affirmative Action and have forgotten more about history than you will ever know. Your just a brain washed person that wants to rewrite history to meet your distorted concept of how things were and should be ....look up affirmative action and prove where it was implemented to cause employers to hire white males over minorities.........Your 20 years old and have no knowledge other than liberal garbage you read........try listening to someone who lived through the past and knows the truth.
  • Samantha Sport_G... 2012/07/11 23:19:14 (edited)
    Samantha
    The group that has benefited most from affirmative action are white women. I didn't say affirmative action was designed to mandate the hiring of whites. I wrote that, prior to affirmative action minorities were denied jobs and white males were hired. Therefore, it seems you supported white privilege but opposed affirmative action designed to correct past discriminatory practices.

    It's so funny how conservatives immediately begin to attack or insult when the facts refute their crazy ideas.
  • MichaelJ Samantha 2012/07/11 17:24:55
    MichaelJ
    Samantha, I don't pretend to be a labor statistic expert but when I go to any federal office I see many more minorities than whites working there. I could care less if they were all green. We need to downsize the federal government and that is going to mean many federal employees must become unemployed if we are to restore the country to prosperity.

    Of course that's just my opinion, you are welcome to your own.
  • Samantha MichaelJ 2012/07/11 23:19:55
    Samantha
    In that case, let's begin by decreasing the size of the U.S. military by two-thirds. It's bloated, has a rape problem and is a danger to world peace.
  • Jester ... Samantha 2012/07/11 17:28:49 (edited)
    Jester M.S.
    I support the fair hiring of all individuals based upon their qualifications, not skin color, ethnicity, or anything else. End of story.

    Second, the fact remains that public sectors are driving various jurisdictions into the poor house. They simply can't go on at their present levels. Its economically impossible. Granted you can raise taxes, but eventually they will still go broke (some just faster than others). Having ideals is fine, but if they are impossible to implement on a long term scale, its simply a waste of time. I am actually glad (as brazen as that sounds) that so many jurisdictions in CA and NY are going broke. I am glad because maybe now it will teach them a lesson that they need to act more responsibly in the future. Some people only learn when they are dealt harsh
    consequences.

    Third, budgets for federal employment initiatives are implemented by congress, not the president.
  • Samantha Jester ... 2012/07/11 23:20:28 (edited)
    Samantha
    Oh, of course you do. If you wish to reduce government spending, let's begin with the U.S. military. It's bloated, has a rape problem and is a danger to world peace.

    I know how budgets are implemented.

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