How can you convince people to convert when you can´t see, feel, hear, or touch God?

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How can you convince people to convert when you can´t see, feel, hear, or touch God?

by QueliKelly Posted September 22, 2009 00:32:41

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I just don´t understand how people can be convinced of God´s existence without evidence that anything in the world is actually his doing. And therefore, how in the world are you able to tell someone that your religion is right without proof??? Why would they believe you? Someone please explain.

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+3 lc icecream September 22, 2009 00:48:37

well u cnt force faith in2 ne1, but some things may help, lik the simple fact that our "theries" or "laws" contradict each other. we say that the world just appeared with a "BIG BANG" n then we say that there is no way u can get something from nothing.
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whatawhata October 01, 2009 16:44:48

Hey all, I just wanted to point something out. Christians do you proof that things written in the bible are true. They have found the ark http://www.themodernreligion.... they have found the tomb of Caiaphas, the man who condemned Jesus Christ http://www.ucg.org/issues/gn4... and many other things. Just research it. It would take too long to write it all down. Also, you say that you can see the Ultimate's words. Well we can also see God's words. Just because you can't see wind, doesn't mean its there but then you will ask the question but we can't feel God. Well can we? Has anyone seen ghostbusters? Well how can you so easily feel the fear of ghosts/spirits/whatawhata but you say you can't feel God. God is love, have you ever felt love? God is peace, have you ever felt peace? Its funny, they say that we learn history so we don't repeat it. Well, in the bible-which has been proved to be a reliable source of history, whether Jesus was God or not (which He was, but thats a whole new topic)-it says that people told Christ to prove that He was God by coming down from the cross, but He didn't come down. Why? Because He knows a better plan, He went down to Hades and freed us from our sins but if He would have come down from the cross we would not have freedom. His plans are not alway...

Hey all, I just wanted to point something out. Christians do you proof that things written in the bible are true. They have found the ark http://www.themodernreligion.... they have found the tomb of Caiaphas, the man who condemned Jesus Christ http://www.ucg.org/issues/gn4... and many other things. Just research it. It would take too long to write it all down. Also, you say that you can see the Ultimate's words. Well we can also see God's words. Just because you can't see wind, doesn't mean its there but then you will ask the question but we can't feel God. Well can we? Has anyone seen ghostbusters? Well how can you so easily feel the fear of ghosts/spirits/whatawhata but you say you can't feel God. God is love, have you ever felt love? God is peace, have you ever felt peace? Its funny, they say that we learn history so we don't repeat it. Well, in the bible-which has been proved to be a reliable source of history, whether Jesus was God or not (which He was, but thats a whole new topic)-it says that people told Christ to prove that He was God by coming down from the cross, but He didn't come down. Why? Because He knows a better plan, He went down to Hades and freed us from our sins but if He would have come down from the cross we would not have freedom. His plans are not always what we can understand because He is God, God is above humans but when people give "testimonies" of what has happened in their lives they are giving it to show that He is God because they didn't understand but everything worked out for the better. And being given faith before believing. How does that not make sense? In order to believe in wind, someone has to tell you its there before you go out and believe because you find the proof of wind (your house fell down). In conclusion, can you believe that a watch has a creator? I do. I believe it could not of just "happened". So, something like a watch (which is pretty extraordinary) has to have a creator but the earth which is even more extraordinary than a watch, doesn't have to have a creator? It just happened in a Big Boom. Haha, whos the children now? Is it not that we have been brainwashed throughout school and taught not to believe things on our own, that now we just tell ourselves...well, yeah. Ok, sure, I see that happening. Don't you? It is not that I am judging you, condemning you or whatawhata. You know they say that love hurts, if you truly love someone you will tell them what you believe and then perhaps agree to disagree. But if their fly is open, you're going to tell them right? So I am telling you what I have found to be true. It is your choice to believe or not. I can not force my beliefs on you but I hope that next time you will try researching things for yourself. =D "You will seek for me and you will find me when you seek for me with all your heart." Says the Lord in Jeremiah 29:13
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chosenone September 22, 2009 17:52:14

But you can see,feel,and touch God. Dont let what others say mess you up. Exodus 33/11 and the Lord spake unto Moses [face to face] as a man speaketh unto his friend.And he turned again into the champ; Also look at your Index finger.Fingerprint. and then look at a Zebra.The stripes of the Zebra match your index fingerprint. And its also Gods fingerprint'' and he put his print on the Zebra at Creation.And it also matches your.s.
QueliKelly to chosenone September 22, 2009 18:26:35

ummmm my fingerprints certainly do not match the stripes on a zebra.
Jerry September 22, 2009 17:50:09 (edited)

Its easy to convert people when you have absolutly no evidence. SCARE THEM! tell them "if they don't believe they will go to hell!" THEN! Once you've done that you use their fears of death to seal the deal, "if you believe in god you will live forever!!!"
sounds pretty easy to me, christians do it, muslims do it, even scientologists do it!!
chosenone to Jerry September 22, 2009 17:53:10

Not True
Jerry to chosenone September 22, 2009 19:38:44

how so?
seathanaich September 22, 2009 17:33:58

Why should the religious beliefs of others be any of your concern? Do you want them converting you to their religious beliefs? No? Then why do you think they want you converting them to yours?

If people aren't brainwashed into a certain religion in childhood, they are unlikely to be convinced that one is real as adults. The magic claims of various religions are ridiculous to most people not raised in a religion, even if they believe the magic claims of a rival religion.
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socokid September 22, 2009 14:56:50

It would be difficult to convince an adult with a critical mind (IMO), but with children it's extremely easy to do.
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Justin September 22, 2009 04:07:30

You cant. Christians tell me, "You have to ask God to give you faith before you can believe in him." Ummm... Something wrong here? Its hard to convince people of ridiculous ideas... especially when there is no proof or slight shred of evidence to back them.
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erdo sero September 22, 2009 01:10:22

Start early.
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lc icecream September 22, 2009 00:48:37

well u cnt force faith in2 ne1, but some things may help, lik the simple fact that our "theries" or "laws" contradict each other. we say that the world just appeared with a "BIG BANG" n then we say that there is no way u can get something from nothing.
Jillian... to lc icec... September 22, 2009 00:51:53

I don't see the contradiction in those two. Never was it stated that when the big bang started, there was nothing.
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lc icec... to Jillian... September 22, 2009 01:10:12

yes actualy there were no life forms n there was a "BIG BANG" it is sed that particles simply combined on there own n out of no where there was a world maybe im alone on this but that is a stupid statement in my eyes.
Jillian... to lc icec... September 22, 2009 01:14:55

Now you're confusing "life" with matter. Life may not have existed in the universe for billions of years since the big bang, but the statement that the big bang theory claims that "something came from nothing" is still fallacious. You also can't really say that the world in the big bang theory came out of nowhere, since it was all there at the start and just went outward with the expanding space.
lc icec... to Jillian... September 22, 2009 01:35:37

but we simply assumed all of this, i find it odd that ppl will sooner believe watever sum1 says, then sumthing that was here b4 sumthing we have proof was here b4.
Jillian... to lc icec... September 22, 2009 01:37:20

I don't get what you mean by saying that we have proof that something was here before. Before what?
lc icec... to Jillian... September 22, 2009 21:32:46

simply b4 we were, at least we have proof of jesus, thatz all im saying, but we jus made the theory up.
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Jillian... to lc icec... September 22, 2009 22:33:29

You know, a theory is an idea with evidence to support it. It's not just something you made up without anything to back it up. The process goes a bit like this: I observe an event or phenomenon, and from what I see, I make an assumption of the nature of this event or phenomenon, which is called a thesis. I then perform a series of repeatable experiments to see if this thesis is true, and publish the results of these experiments along with my thesis so that experts on the subject can analyse my thesis and experiments, perform their own experiments and repeat my experiments, to try and poke holes in my thesis. If no one manages to find anything wrong with my thesis, it is then upgraded, so to speak, into a theory. At any point, anyone can challenge a theory with evidence which points to the contrary, but this challenge must also be published and undergo the same scrutiny as the thesis did in the beginning. The process is a bit more complex than that, but that's basically how it works. As such, it is extremely hard to get an idea with no grounds or evidence in favour of it to theory status. A theory isn't to be distrusted by default unless you spend a lot of time and energy studying it's every facet to find a flaw in it.
lc icec... to Jillian... September 23, 2009 23:21:27

i get wat ur saying, n i understand that in order 2 b a theory u do in fact need some kind of evidence. however we dnt have any proof because we just decided that if we couldnt come up with anything else this must b it. im not saying we just sed "oh i think this happened" but with those scientist who have done the most thourough reseach we see that we have proof of Jesus n no proof yet that the big bang is real.
Jillian... to lc icec... September 25, 2009 13:56:21

We don't really have proof of Jesus' existence, though. Sure, we do have some historical evidence in various religious texts, but there are rather few, if any, historical documents from the years when he lived which even mention him. Then there's the added difficulty that even if we prove conclusively that Jesus actually did exist, there is no proof of his miracles or his divinity, with exception to the bible.
lc icec... to Jillian... October 11, 2009 17:46:39

thats how it used but we do have proof, there was a man doing varios research one of his topics was jesus chrst if u want i can try n send u a link where he shows the actual evidence
Jillian... to lc icec... October 14, 2009 21:02:37

Sure thing, send me the evidence that Jesus Christ is the actual son of the biblical God. If it is actually real, I will spread the word to the world.
lc icec... to Jillian... December 12, 2009 04:13:51

kk, sry i took so long but here...http://www.allaboutjes... n there is also proof that the infoin the bibleis true so it jus seems lik sumthin ppl shld at least give a chance, however due 2 the fat that u cannot c of feel him there is a level of faithrequired.
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QueliKelly to lc icec... September 22, 2009 00:52:01

but we don´t say that the world just "appeared". it´s physics that gives us a reason to believe it´s possible. there is absolutely no reason i know of to think that there is a man in the sky that created everything, especially since you would need to answer where god came from.
lc icec... to QueliKelly September 22, 2009 01:10:44

there is no man in the sky. no1 ever sed that ppl make their own assumptions b4 they even ask about God.
seathan... to lc icec... September 22, 2009 17:32:16

Please learn how to spell, your posts are difficult to read, and your illiteracy undermines any points you may be trying to make.
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katiegirl! September 22, 2009 00:46:16

you dont! let them fuckin be themselves!
Country Girl September 22, 2009 00:38:34

They need to ponder about it
JillianBrennan September 22, 2009 00:36:22

Most people will probably mention religious experiences as key factors that made them convert or start to believe. When something happens to you and you can't explain the cause or the effect of it, as is often true with religious experiences, it's not a big leap to attribute it to an unexplained cause.
QueliKelly to Jillian... September 22, 2009 00:41:14

so what happens when christians go on mission trips? can you force religious experiences onto people?
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Jillian... to QueliKelly September 22, 2009 00:50:41

Force isn't the right word for it. You can induce religious experiences upon willing audiences using suggestion and group hypnosis techniques. I know that sounds like I just made this up, but it is possible, and I've seen it done by British illusionist Derren Brown.
seathan... to Jillian... September 22, 2009 17:37:51

Hi Jillian. You raise a good point. And the religious experiences people have are completely pre-conditioned. People who are taught as children about "Jesus" will naturally have dreams about "him". People who are told that aliens look a certain way will naturally have dreams with aliens that look the same. People who are told ghost stories will naturally have dreams or "experiences" with "ghosts" that are the same as the ones they've been taught by their parents. And so on. Children of Christian parents don't have visions of Ganesh, the Hindu elephant god.
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The Ultimate Savage Hippie ... September 22, 2009 00:34:04

You can't see, feel, or hear me either, but I'm here. XD
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QueliKelly to The Ult... September 22, 2009 00:34:53 (edited)

haha touche... but i can see your avatar and your words.

are you god?
The Ult... to QueliKelly September 22, 2009 00:35:12

How do you know it's really me??? XD
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QueliKelly to The Ult... September 22, 2009 00:36:26

well if it isn´t you, it´s somebody. like if a mystical being appeared out of nowhere, you couldn´t necessarily say it was YOUR god, but you know it was someone.
The Ult... to QueliKelly September 22, 2009 00:37:06

Maybe... >_>