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House Votes to Cut Food Stamps to Avoid Defense Reduction

irish -liberty or death! 2012/05/14 14:57:46

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The U.S. House voted to cut food stamps, federal workers’ benefits
and other domestic programs to avoid scheduled reductions in defense
spending.


The chamber today passed, 218-199, a plan to cut about $310 billion
in spending to replace automatic defense-spending reductions that
lawmakers in both parties agree shouldn’t be allowed to take effect in
January.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-10/house-votes-to-cut-f...






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  • bob 2012/05/14 16:39:42
    bob
    +6
    The Republicans will do anything for another WAR and protecting off-shore investments... That's what they are about.

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  • Kattie Daedalus 2012/05/14 21:51:21
    Kattie
    +3
    Where was your outrage when obamacare cut $500 billion from medicare? You didn't seem to mind at all with that cut.
  • Daedalus Kattie 2012/05/14 21:56:44
    Daedalus
    maybe I was outraged ... you don't really know.
  • Todd~AFCL Daedalus 2012/05/15 02:17:00
    Todd~AFCL
    From your response, it is pretty clear you were not.
  • chgo Kattie 2012/05/14 22:04:30
    chgo
    +2
    He didn't.
  • Todd~AFCL chgo 2012/05/15 02:14:05 (edited)
    Todd~AFCL
    +2
    Yes, he and the Democrat controlled Congress most certainly did, with that abomination known as Obamacare. http://articles.sun-sentinel....
  • Kattie chgo 2012/05/15 02:19:24 (edited)
    Kattie
    +3
    Yes he did Mr uninformed.....LOL. Now I ask you...If Supreme Court rules Obamacare Unconstitutional will that 500 Billion he took from Medicare be returned? See liberal, your Obama is a liar, and a crook and should be in prison for all the money he stoled from us, and our children, and future generations. Now go suck his butt. Moonbat.
    http://www.newsmax.com/Politi...

  • chgo Kattie 2012/05/15 03:18:26
    chgo
    +1
    No, it doesn't, Mrs. uniformed conservative. The new health care law doesn't literally take money out of Medicare, the law uses a number of measures to try to reduce the rapid growth of future Medicare spending.

    Nearly $220 billion comes from reducing annual increases in payments that health care providers would otherwise receive from Medicare. Other savings include $36 billion from increases in premiums for higher-income beneficiaries and $12 billion from administrative changes. A new national board will be tasked to identify $15.5 billion in savings, but the board -- the Independent Payment Advisory Board -- is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits. Then there's another $136 billion in projected savings that would come from changes to the Medicare Advantage program. About 25 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan.


    Democrats wanted to make sure they did not increase the federal deficit. The savings from Medicare offset new spending resulting from the health care bill. while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut Medicare.

    Congressional Budget Office, Selected CBO Publications Related to Health Care Legislation, 2009–2010, December 2010
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    No, it doesn't, Mrs. uniformed conservative. The new health care law doesn't literally take money out of Medicare, the law uses a number of measures to try to reduce the rapid growth of future Medicare spending.

    Nearly $220 billion comes from reducing annual increases in payments that health care providers would otherwise receive from Medicare. Other savings include $36 billion from increases in premiums for higher-income beneficiaries and $12 billion from administrative changes. A new national board will be tasked to identify $15.5 billion in savings, but the board -- the Independent Payment Advisory Board -- is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits. Then there's another $136 billion in projected savings that would come from changes to the Medicare Advantage program. About 25 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan.


    Democrats wanted to make sure they did not increase the federal deficit. The savings from Medicare offset new spending resulting from the health care bill. while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut Medicare.

    Congressional Budget Office, Selected CBO Publications Related to Health Care Legislation, 2009–2010, December 2010
    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/12...
    The Kaiser Family Foundation, Health Reform and Medicare: Overview of Key Provisions, July 2010
    http://kaiseredu.org/tutorial...
    The Kaiser Family Foundation, Health Reform and Medicare: Overview of Key Provisions, July 2010
    http://kaiseredu.org/tutorial...
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  • Kattie chgo 2012/05/15 22:39:11 (edited)
    Kattie
    +2
    Democrats will use their best "Mediscare" tactics to deflect the blame to Republicans for the mess they've created. You can read an informative article about this "mess" at the Galen Institute online at: http://www.galen.org/topics/o...
    http://www.westernjournalism....
    http://spectator.org/archives...
    http://townhall.com/columnist...
  • chgo Kattie 2012/05/16 00:30:56
    chgo
    Hmmm....don't see not one single legitimate source. I even read the CBO report and it says some may lose their employer-based coverage, not their jobs. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/defa...

    spectator.org? really?! lol what's next, new world order?



    you've failed. try again.
  • Kattie chgo 2012/05/16 22:47:10
    Kattie
    +1
    Hmmmm seems like the more the write, your IQ shrinks even lower. You have to do much better than Media Matter talking points. I have gave you Obama's own member of the Senate that said what Obama has done. You are just brainwashed, and you don't want to see what is going on, even tho it's right in front of you. You will never win, you are a liberal, and we know liberals do not think, or maybe, you just hate the truth. You lose, Lib.
  • Todd~AFCL chgo 2012/05/17 00:42:47 (edited)
    Todd~AFCL
    What on Earth are you talking about? She is right, on everything she has told you; all of her sources are legitimate and there is not one mention of jobs loss that I can find in anything she said or linked for you. This looks like just another attempt at distraction from the issue at hand, because you can not stand that she knows what is going on. That CBO report does not even deal with the issue of how much is being cut from Medicare.
    However, to meet the government requirements of health care policies, many employers may be forced to either lay off, or stop hiring people. If obamacare goes into effect without the unconstitutional mandate, how do you think it can be paid for? The best America can hope for is that this whole healthcare scam is ruled unconstitutional and tossed in the trash!
    If you think your attempts at distraction are effective, then you are even less intelligent than the average slug!
  • Todd~AFCL chgo 2012/05/15 02:50:07
    Todd~AFCL
    It looks like Kattie just showed you that even the Democrats know it did. Now why don't you bow to her like obama bows to his superiors?
  • chgo Todd~AFCL 2012/05/15 03:19:50
    chgo
    +1
    It only shows your boldly dumb ignorance. Democrats wanted to make sure they did not increase the federal deficit. The savings from Medicare offset new spending resulting from the health care bill. while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut Medicare.

    The bill doesn't take money out of the current Medicare budget but, rather, attempts to slow the program's future growth, curtailing just over $500 billion in anticipated spending increases over the next 10 years. Medicare spending will still increase, however. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects Medicare spending will reach $929 billion in 2020, up from $499 billion in actual spending in 2009.

    your opinion is just stupid as your name, Todd. lol what a name!!
  • Todd~AFCL chgo 2012/05/15 23:48:28
    Todd~AFCL
    +1
    Thank you for showing that no matter what is shown to you, you will still blindly follow your lying leader and continue to try spinning your way out of it. If Democrats wanted to avoid increasing the federal deficit, they should have stopped 0bama's spending spree at least 3 years ago.
    In short, 0bama is a liar and so are you. In 0bama's case, I am sure it is intentional. In your case, I don't know if you are just too stupid to realize you are repeating lies or if you are actively trying to deceive people into believing that what you know to be untrue is actually true; your attempt is akin to try convincing people that water is dry.
    I love how scum like you will call a person's opinion and name stupid, when it is obvious that you have already been shown that you way off base and just can not accept facts. Now, why don't you go try to convince somebody that the Earth is flat, or that unicorns really come at Owebama's beck and call, because you are not going to convince me that the $500 Billion slashed from medicare is not being slashed from medicare to support an unconstitutional takeover of the health-care industry in this country.
    By the way, your handle on here sounds an awful lot like what I would expect you find in your underwear after a bad case of diarrhea and not enough toilet paper. Now, you might want to go wash your face; I think 0bama left some brown stains on your nose, from how close you try to follow his lying @$$.
  • irish -... Todd~AFCL 2012/05/16 10:38:15
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    i like that ,owebama! clever!
  • Todd~AFCL irish -... 2012/05/16 23:50:50
    Todd~AFCL
    +1
    Thanks, but I can not take credit for coming up with that.
  • irish -... Todd~AFCL 2012/05/17 14:22:44
    irish -liberty or death!
    well its the 1st i have seen it.LOL
  • Idiot r... Kattie 2012/05/15 16:00:10
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    So you are pissed at Obama for cutting spending?
  • Kattie Idiot r... 2012/05/15 22:56:24 (edited)
    Kattie
    +1
    Really, let's see the list. Make sure you add in those new taxes we will all pay on Obamacare, and the $800K of Stimulus Money Spent On African Genital-Washing.
    http://blog.heritage.org/2012...
    You better get that nose of yours out of Obama's butt, and smell the socialism. By the way, have you seen how the New York Times reported on Obama? LOL. The New York Times has sent in its response to the Obama campaign's heavy criticism of today's NYT/CBS News poll (see previous post), which the campaign objected to, in part, because it surveyed the same group of people surveyed for a poll last month. That now controversial poll has Mitt Romney leading Obama among those surveyed -- including women -- and shows two-thirds believe the president supported same-sex marriage "for political reasons."
  • Idiot r... Kattie 2012/05/16 00:34:27 (edited)
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    Here's your Heritage foundation abunch of right wing hacks.

    crying baby
  • Kattie Idiot r... 2012/05/16 21:49:52 (edited)
  • Todd~AFCL Idiot r... 2012/05/17 00:56:14 (edited)
    Todd~AFCL
    I don't know about you, but it pisses me off that he wants to take the money away from the elderly's care so they die quicker, just so he can spend it on his worthless supporters. He is not cutting spending, only moving it to some other area!
    By the way, you should change your handle to lying libs.
  • chgo 2012/05/14 18:27:29
    chgo
    +3
    The defense budget made up about 20% of the entire federal budget of 2011, using about $1 trillion. Food and nutrition benefits used about $60 billion, effectively making up about 3-4% of the entire federal budget. Source

    cutting a portion of nutrition benefits is NOT going to boost the economy.
  • chgo 2012/05/14 18:22:17
    chgo
    +4
    Food stamps are the best form of economic help by the government, giving the best return on investment. There are millions of Americans who receive food stamps. The bizarre part is that some of them will vote Republican in the next election.

    The only waste here is over 70 percent of the Department of Defense's whole budget, which is basically taxpayers' money given to defense contractors. The wealthy have no problem with taxpayer handouts of any kind, as long as they get the checks!
  • Max 2012/05/14 17:17:20
    Max
    +5
    While I appreciate a strong military, there is so much waste in the Department of Defense, 1/2 trillion dollars from the budget shouldn't be off the table. Especially at the expense of cutting from the needy and helpless. These automatic cuts are there for a reason and that's because there was no compromise on a budget in the first place, so take your medicine and live with it.

    These lawmakers must be getting calls from their defense lobbyists and pressured with: "don't forget who donated to your campaign in the last election." Then there are those that have defense contractors manufacturing in their particular district. That is more understandable, if they are manufacturing something absolutely necessary for our defense. How about we quit all the war and the saber-rattling and try peace for a while, till we can take down our debt.
  • Risk 2012/05/14 16:43:44
    Risk
    +5
    All programs need to be cut, starting with defense and the weeding out of the actual deadbeat welfare recipients that both parties are afraid to offend because they might loose a vote. That's where bipartisan should come into play but again both damn parties are are so tuned into playing politics they don't have the time to do the right thing for their country !
  • mary E Risk 2012/05/15 01:29:15
    mary E
    +2
    You said it! And you said it well!
  • bob 2012/05/14 16:39:42
    bob
    +6
    The Republicans will do anything for another WAR and protecting off-shore investments... That's what they are about.
  • DeeB bob 2012/05/14 18:42:38 (edited)
    DeeB
    +5
    LOL! You've got your own little war president there so be careful! 10 more years in Afganistan to guard the opium?!
  • Morning... DeeB 2012/05/14 18:48:08
    Morningstar
    +2
    who got us there DeeB? Now we going to get out responsibly?
  • DeeB Morning... 2012/05/14 18:59:50 (edited)
    DeeB
    +3
    Give me a break. Do you believe that crap? Really? They are guarding opium for the CIA to fund more wars. Do not even think I was any easier on Bush, they are all bought and paid for and just puppets for the zionist cabal that really runs this country. I hope you don't believe that Obama called off the Iraq war too! He had nothing to do with it but took the credit. Stop being so gullible Morning and do some research, the truth is out there but don't expect to hear it from them, or their media. Watch this and see what they are.
  • Atmara Morning... 2012/05/14 22:23:31
    Atmara
    +4
    Responsibly would have been getting out 4 years ago when the Liar in Chief said.
  • ConLibF... Morning... 2012/05/14 22:32:34
    ConLibFraud
    +4
    Morning, DeeB is not taking sides with either Bushwacker or Ofraud. They are the same. Remember ...

  • Atmara ConLibF... 2012/05/15 00:25:46
    Atmara
    +4
    I know, what a fraud!
  • john Kills 2012/05/14 16:27:05
    john Kills
    +2
    Good for them. If people on food stamps get hungry they can join the military and earn their way for a change. I'm tired of being forced to provide for people who just want to sit on their ass.
  • Morning... john Kills 2012/05/14 17:03:39
    Morningstar
    +2
    Don't know who you're talking about Kills!
  • DeeB john Kills 2012/05/14 18:43:52
    DeeB
    +1
    Before yes, now, it's all working people that lost their jobs because of the government. How dare they cut it now.
  • irish -... john Kills 2012/05/15 11:10:12
    irish -liberty or death!
    +1
    and yet you support the elected who just sit on their ass. wow.
  • BlueRepublican 2012/05/14 16:14:49
    BlueRepublican
    +6
    Thanks for the post Irish. They are literally taking the food out of children's mouths. Time to vote them out.
  • keymanjim BlueRep... 2012/05/14 16:18:30
    keymanjim
    +2
    No, they still have parents that should be feeding them.

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