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snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques 2012/07/10 21:31:22
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....I thought you might find this interesting -- maybe even SICKENING!

Since when does your home become part of Obama healthcare - After 2012,
AND
to add insult to injury how it just happens to be cleverly
[intermingled] into Obama's carefully orchestrated healthcare bill! Read
on.


Subject: HOME SALES TAX??

The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, --
before
it takes effect. But you and I aren't the only ones who are now privy
to this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners - How many
realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012?

Under this
new ‘tax’ if you sell your house after 2012 YOU will pay a 3.8% sales
tax on it! If you do the math that’s $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc.

Read
it for yourself. It's in Obama’s health care bill, -- page 965, and it
goes into effect in 2013. Could the reason BE it comes to light in 2013
- is because it’s an election year? Is THIS the ’change we can believe in‘??

IN the new healthcare bill, it says all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax!

So, say you sell a $400,000 home - YOU will be charged a $15,200 tax.

This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes.

You say you weren't aware that this is in the Obama Care bill? Guess what - you’re
not alone: There are more than a few members of Congress that weren't aware of it either.

THIS IS WHY IT IS VITAL YOU VOTE IN 2012 FOLKS!

http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacar...
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  • betz 2012/07/10 21:57:36
    betz
    +17
    I had heard this before and yes it is true. The Lord only knows what else is hidden inside this sham of a bill. So much for his claiming to "care" about the middle class. Vote this man OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Sherloc... 4570GOVT 2012/07/12 19:18:25
  • 4570GOVT Sherloc... 2012/07/12 23:00:41
    4570GOVT
    +1
    LOL , Ain't It The Truth ?
  • Sherloc... 4570GOVT 2012/07/22 06:38:04
  • 4570GOVT Sherloc... 2012/07/22 16:45:55
    4570GOVT
    +1
    Hell , I would even chip in .
  • Sherloc... 4570GOVT 2012/07/22 17:06:46 (edited)
  • Sherloc... 4570GOVT 2012/07/22 06:39:16
  • ALPEAUX 2012/07/11 14:20:46
    ALPEAUX
    +8
    FUBAMA 2012! This POS is a complete fuggin' idiot! Alpeaux
  • Mark P. 2012/07/11 14:18:37
    Mark P.
    +3
    Its just one massive tax hike. Now lets wait for the denials.
  • john Kills 2012/07/11 13:19:38
    john Kills
    +6
    We buy our home with money we have already paid tax on, we then pay taxes to keep our home with money that has already been taxed, we then pay tax on the sale of our home and when we use the money to buy another home we pay tax again. Too many taxes. It must be stopped.
  • 4570GOVT john Kills 2012/07/11 14:51:10
    4570GOVT
    +1
    BRAVO , Well Said !
  • susan 2012/07/11 13:00:31
    susan
    +5
    Lots of taxes of various sorts in the health care bill, and when the IRS gets through with writing the regulations, developing the forms for both individuals and businesses, you will not believe how complicated your taxes have become and how much higher your taxes will be. It's not just in the base income tax rate anymore. There have been various estimates of 21-39 new taxes estimated to be in that act.
    Perhaps that is why John Roberts said it was a tax.
  • 4570GOVT susan 2012/07/11 14:52:12
    4570GOVT
    +3
    It provides for 18,000 NEW I.R.S. Agents ( paid for by US ) as well .
  • Nestofasssps 2012/07/11 12:39:06
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    From the link you gave... the first two paragraphs say
    “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes,”
    President Obama, September 12, 2008

    Beginning January 1, 2013, ObamaCare imposes a 3.8% Medicare tax on unearned income of “high-income” taxpayers "which could" apply to proceeds from the sale of single family homes, townhouses, co-ops, condominiums, and even rental income, depending on your individual circumstances and any capital gains tax exclusions

    Notice where it says, Obama said "no family making less than 250,000$ a year"???
    now go down to the second paragraph, see where it says," a 3.8 % medicare tax on unearned INCOME OF "HIGH INCOME"TAXPAYERS????
    now... unless you have unearned income of over 250k a year, you wont be paying tax.....
    is that simple enough for you or do I have to use sign language.
    Please stop spreading fear and lies.
  • Bevos Nestofa... 2012/07/11 14:30:27
    Bevos
    +5
    It is OBAMA that is spreading FEAR and LIES. What the HELL does Home Tax have to do with HEALTHCARE. You aren't TOO BRIGHT are you!!!
  • Nestofa... Bevos 2012/07/11 15:37:08
  • Michaelene Nestofa... 2012/07/11 17:11:51
    Michaelene
    +2
    That's bs. My caddilac health insurance is going to be taxed as part of my income. I pay 13k and so does my company. The millions of public workers with waivers do not pay this tax.
    Where am I going to get the 40% tax on this health insurance? My new tax is 10k+
  • Michaelene Nestofa... 2012/07/11 17:08:35
    Michaelene
    +2
    "The statute provides no guidance as to whether one can defer the 3.8% tax by
    entering into a like-kind exchange when he sells the property. This question may be
    addressed in regulations at a later time, but for the present is not resolved."

    They're still writing the regulations, so don't bet on a word Obama says, HE LIES.
    Obamacare's health tax plan is about control about money and about power.
    Remember Obama said, "you can keep your plan if you like it."
    Well the author and Obama advisor Dr. Ezekial Emmanuel said there will be no health insurance companies left by 2020. That has always been the plan.
  • morris44 Nestofa... 2012/07/11 19:28:57
    morris44
    Fricking frustrating the lack of reading comprehension out here.

    Then, you point out the truth, and they just say stupid things like "it's obama this and that..."

    Then they attack your person.

    Dumb lemmings owned by a media that is owned by large corporations.
  • jimmy d 2012/07/11 12:09:43 (edited)
    jimmy d
    +3
    Doesn't surprise me. What other surprises are in the two thousand seven hundred pages of trash? Pelousy was right. We voted for it to find out what's in it. She didn't say whether we'd like it or not though.....
    This is not about healthcare but more about re-distributing other people's money!!!!!!
  • CFlyJuice 2012/07/11 11:26:34
    CFlyJuice
    +3
    obamacare dies


    When Pelosi said "pass it to see what's in it", it was not her normal retarded comment.
    She wanted it passed BEFORE EVERYONE FOUND ALL THE NEW TAXES.

    ROMNEY IN THE WH, REPUBLICANS GET THE SENATE AND KEEP THE HOUSE GOP...

    OBAMACARE IS TOETAGGED!!!!!
    dff
  • 4570GOVT CFlyJuice 2012/07/11 14:54:03
    4570GOVT
    +2
    TWO TOES UP !
  • CFlyJuice 4570GOVT 2012/07/11 15:45:27
    CFlyJuice
    +1
    REPEAL THE TURD THAT IS OBAMACARE!
  • Brother Bo CFlyJuice 2012/07/11 16:03:58
  • paul 2012/07/11 08:22:45 (edited)
  • ed 2012/07/11 08:21:05
    ed
    +4
    I am sick of obama and obamacare,there are to many idiot liberals who think there is nothing wrong with obamacare.
  • 4570GOVT ed 2012/07/11 14:54:42
    4570GOVT
    +2
    " THOSE PEOPLE " can't read !
  • ed 4570GOVT 2012/07/11 23:47:31
  • Biki 2012/07/11 07:41:42 (edited)
  • sjalan 2012/07/11 06:38:45
    sjalan
    +1
    The tax indeed is there, but the the example given above is a lie !!! Here is the exposure of the lie at Factcheck.org

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010...

    FULL ANSWER from FACTCHECK.org!!!!!!

    We’ve been flooded with queries about this one ever since the health care bill became law. At the last minute, Democratic lawmakers decided on a new 3.8 percent tax on the net investment income of high-income persons. But the claim that this would amount to a $15,200 tax on the sale of a typical $400,000 home is utterly false.

    The truth is that only a tiny percentage of home sellers will pay the tax. First of all, only those with incomes over $200,000 a year ($250,000 for married couples filing jointly) will be subject to it. And even for those who have such high incomes, the tax still won’t apply to the first $250,000 on profits from the sale of a personal residence — or to the first $500,000 in the case of a married couple selling their home.

    We can understand how this misconception got started. The law itself is couched in highly technical language that only a qualified tax expert can fully grasp. (This provision begins on page 33 of the reconciliation bill that was passed and signed into law.) And it does say the tax falls on "net gain … attributable to the disposition of property....



















    The tax indeed is there, but the the example given above is a lie !!! Here is the exposure of the lie at Factcheck.org

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010...

    FULL ANSWER from FACTCHECK.org!!!!!!

    We’ve been flooded with queries about this one ever since the health care bill became law. At the last minute, Democratic lawmakers decided on a new 3.8 percent tax on the net investment income of high-income persons. But the claim that this would amount to a $15,200 tax on the sale of a typical $400,000 home is utterly false.

    The truth is that only a tiny percentage of home sellers will pay the tax. First of all, only those with incomes over $200,000 a year ($250,000 for married couples filing jointly) will be subject to it. And even for those who have such high incomes, the tax still won’t apply to the first $250,000 on profits from the sale of a personal residence — or to the first $500,000 in the case of a married couple selling their home.

    We can understand how this misconception got started. The law itself is couched in highly technical language that only a qualified tax expert can fully grasp. (This provision begins on page 33 of the reconciliation bill that was passed and signed into law.) And it does say the tax falls on "net gain … attributable to the disposition of property." That would include the sale of a home. But the bill also says the tax falls only on that portion of any gain that is "taken into account in computing taxable income" under the existing tax code. And the fact is, the first $250,000 in profit on the sale of a primary residence (or $500,000 in the case of a married couple) is excluded from taxable income already. (That exclusion doesn’t apply to vacation homes or rental properties.)

    The Joint Committee on Taxation, the group of nonpartisan tax experts that Congress relies on to analyze tax proposals, underscores this in a footnote on page 135 of its report on the bill. The note states: "Gross income does not include … excluded gain from the sale of a principal residence."

    And just to be sure, we checked with William Ahern, director of policy and communications for the nonprofit, pro-business Tax Foundation. "Some home sales would see a tax increase under this bill," Ahern told us, "but it would have to be a second home or a principal residence generating [a gain of] more than $250,000 ($500,000 for a couple)."

    So there you have it. The sort of people who would have to pay the tax might include, for example:

    A single executive making $210,000 a year who sells his $300,000 ski condo for a $50,000 profit. His tax on the sale of that vacation home would amount to $1,900, in addition to the capital gains tax he would have paid anyway.
    An "empty nester" couple with combined income of over $250,000 a year who sell their $1 million primary residence to move to smaller quarters. If they cleared $600,000 on the sale, they would be taxed on $100,000 of the profit (the amount over the half-million-dollar exclusion). Their health care tax on the sale would amount to $3,800 over and above the usual capital gains levy.
    However, a typical home sale would not incur any tax. In March, for example, half of all existing homes sold for $170,700 or less, according to the National Association of Realtors. Obviously, none of those sales could possibly generate a $250,000 profit, and so none would be subject to the tax.

    Thus, for the vast majority, the 3.8 percent tax won’t apply. The Tax Foundation, in a report released April 15, said the new tax on investment income (including real estate) "will hit approximately the top-earning two percent of families" when it takes effect in 2013.

    Footnote: Some of the chain e-mails that claim ordinary home sales will be taxed include a copy of an article written by Paul Guppy, a policy analyst with the conservative Washington Policy Institute (that’s Washington state, not Washington, D.C.). The article appeared March 28 as an op-ed in the Spokane, Wash., Spokesman-Review, and Guppy claimed that "[m]iddle-income people must pay the full tax even if they are ‘rich’ for only one day." That brought a quick rebuttal from Sara Orrange, the government affairs director of the local Realtors association. She wrote a letter to the newspaper calling Guppy’s article "inaccurate" and saying, "Most people who sell their homes will not be impacted by these new regulations. This is not a new tax on every seller, and that correction needs to be made." In a news article the next day, business reporter Bert Caldwell confirmed that only "a very few" home sellers would pay the 3.8 percent tax.

    The Internal Revenue Service says that to qualify for the $250,000/$500,000 exclusion, a seller must have owned the home and lived there as the seller’s "main home" for at least two years out of the five years prior to the sale.

    – Brooks Jackson

    Correction, Sept. 2: We originally said that the footnote of the JCT report appeared on page 139. It’s on page 135.
    (more)
  • Larry sjalan 2012/07/11 09:16:56
    Larry
    +5
    Is Factcheck.org also Democratunderground.com ?
  • jimmy d Larry 2012/07/11 12:13:29
    jimmy d
    +3
    yep, FactCheck.org is a LEFT-BIASED organization that has sold itself as “Politically NEUTRAL” to America’s voters and media personnel.

    The fact is, the ANNENBERG Public Policy Center (APPC), the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is itself supported by the same foundation, the ANNENBERG FOUNDATION, that Bill Ayers secured the 49.2 million dollars from to create the Chicago ANNENBERG Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board for and Ayers served as the grant writer of and co-Chair of for its two operating arms.
  • Larry jimmy d 2012/07/11 14:28:57
    Larry
    Ok thanks your reply
  • 4570GOVT jimmy d 2012/07/11 14:56:28
    4570GOVT
    WOW ! thanks .
  • sjalan jimmy d 2012/07/11 15:37:52
    sjalan
    I would check the article and go check your sources. Cause just got done talking with my REPUBLICAN House Representative to see if FactCheck.org got it correct and he said "indeed they have it correct, it is one of the many reasons Justice Roberts called the ACA a TAX"
  • Michaelene jimmy d 2012/07/11 17:25:44
    Michaelene
    Yes, the same Annenberg that gave hundreds of millions to Ayers and Obama to improve Chicago schools. They failed the students and parents miserably, ACORN received a large share of those millions as did other nefarious organizations like the South Shore African Village Collaborative.
    http://hotair.com/archives/20...
    "Ayers' belief – as outlined in his book Teaching Toward Freedom – that the primary duty of educators was to “teach against [the] oppression” that allegedly pervaded American society, and to thereby encourage revolution and social transformation."
    http://www.freerepublic.com/f...
  • jimmy d sjalan 2012/07/11 12:13:13
    jimmy d
    +2
    FactCheck.org is a LEFT-BIASED organization that has sold itself as “Politically NEUTRAL” to America’s voters and media personnel.

    The fact is, the ANNENBERG Public Policy Center (APPC), the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is itself supported by the same foundation, the ANNENBERG FOUNDATION, that Bill Ayers secured the 49.2 million dollars from to create the Chicago ANNENBERG Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board for and Ayers served as the grant writer of and co-Chair of for its two operating arms.
  • Michaelene jimmy d 2012/07/11 17:29:57
    Michaelene
    Don't forget the communist pal Mike Klonsky (another Maoist cog in obamas machine) who received 600k from the CAC to develop another bs Chicago schools program that also failed
  • Bevos sjalan 2012/07/11 14:36:19
  • sjalan Bevos 2012/07/11 15:41:08
    sjalan
    Bevos, I checked for page 965 in the Congressional Record, THERE IS NO PAGE 965 in the bill. Further, when looking for it on Congress's website, the pdf versions speaks NOTHING about the this tax in the bill. Additionally, the only place that FactCheck found anything about this was as stated in their article.

    Suggest you do some fact checking of your own.
  • Michaelene sjalan 2012/07/11 17:15:21
    Michaelene
    not true, according to the National Association of Realtors:
    "The statute provides no guidance as to whether one can defer the 3.8% tax by
    entering into a like-kind exchange when he sells the property. This question may be
    addressed in regulations at a later time, but for the present is not resolved."

    So no, they haven't finished writing the regulations and because the Obamacare health tax plan's cost was grossly underestimated, there has to be MORE taxes collected to support it.
    Watch that 250k turn into 150k or worse.

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