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Birthpangs 2012/06/28 20:59:55
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The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.

The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Hold

Dozens of Democrats marched off the floor in protest during the vote, adding even more drama to a tumultuous moment in the House chamber.

Another civil contempt resolution, giving the green light for the Oversight and Government Reform Committee to sue the Justice Department to get the Fast and Furious documents, is still pending.

The heated House floor vote on Holder capped a historic day in Washington, coming just hours after the Supreme Court, just across the street from the Capitol, issued its landmark ruling upholding most of Barack Obama’s health care law. The passions of the day were evident inside the Capitol, where Democrats accused Republicans of ginning up the contempt vote for political purposes while Republicans continued to charge the Justice Department with a cover up on the Fast and Furious scandal.

The fight over the Holder contempt resolution also drew intense interest from outside groups ranging from the NAACP to the National Rifle Association.

Rep. Darrell Issa, (R-Calif.), chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the lead Republican investigator during the Fast and Furious probe, said the House had to take such a move in order to get to the bottom of the scandal.

“Throughout this process, I have reiterated my desire to reach a settlement that would allow us to cancel today’s vote,” Issa said. “Our purpose has never been to hold the Attorney General in contempt. Our purpose has always been to get the information that the Committee needs to complete its work, and to which it is entitled.”

Issa also pointed out that then Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) backed a call for a contempt resolution against the Bush White House over the firing of U.S. attorneys back in 2008, which he raised to counter Democratic charges of partisanship.

The practical, immediate impact of the contempt votes will be minimal. Holder remains as attorney general with strong backing from Obama, and any criminal referral after the contempt vote is unlikely to go far.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) stressed that Holder and the Justice Department needed to be held accountable for not providing sufficient answers to Congress about what happened during Fast and Furious.

“Now, I don’t take this matter lightly. I frankly hoped it would never come to this,” Boehner said. “But no Justice Department is above the law and no Justice Department is above the Constitution, which each of us has sworn to uphold.”

But the GOP-led move infuriated other Democrats, especially minority lawmakers, who see racism and unbridled partisanship in the Republican drive to sanction the first African-American to hold the attorney general post in U.S. history.

The Democratic walkout was led by the Congressional Black Caucus, many of whom gathered outside the Capitol while their GOP colleagues moved against Holder.



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  • gil vaz... Chi~Cat 2012/06/28 23:04:27
    gil vazquez
    The republicans have been lying to you and you just swallow it like all of the other lies they tell you, and then your inner hatred and racism shows. The truth about this all is featured in the fortune 500 magazine.FORTUNE -- In the annals of impossible assignments, Dave Voth's ranked high. In 2009 the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives promoted Voth to lead Phoenix Group VII, one of seven new ATF groups along the Southwest border tasked with stopping guns from being trafficked into Mexico's vicious drug war.
    Some call it the "parade of ants"; others the "river of iron." The Mexican government has estimated that 2,000 weapons are smuggled daily from the U.S. into Mexico. The ATF is hobbled in its effort to stop this flow. No federal statute outlaws firearms trafficking, so agents must build cases using a patchwork of often toothless laws. For six years, due to Beltway politics, the bureau has gone without permanent leadership, neutered in its fight for funding and authority. The National Rifle Association has so successfully opposed a comprehensive electronic database of gun sales that the ATF's congressional appropriation explicitly prohibits establishing one.
    Voth, 39, was a good choice for a Sisyphean task. Strapping and sandy-haired, the former Marin...




    The republicans have been lying to you and you just swallow it like all of the other lies they tell you, and then your inner hatred and racism shows. The truth about this all is featured in the fortune 500 magazine.FORTUNE -- In the annals of impossible assignments, Dave Voth's ranked high. In 2009 the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives promoted Voth to lead Phoenix Group VII, one of seven new ATF groups along the Southwest border tasked with stopping guns from being trafficked into Mexico's vicious drug war.
    Some call it the "parade of ants"; others the "river of iron." The Mexican government has estimated that 2,000 weapons are smuggled daily from the U.S. into Mexico. The ATF is hobbled in its effort to stop this flow. No federal statute outlaws firearms trafficking, so agents must build cases using a patchwork of often toothless laws. For six years, due to Beltway politics, the bureau has gone without permanent leadership, neutered in its fight for funding and authority. The National Rifle Association has so successfully opposed a comprehensive electronic database of gun sales that the ATF's congressional appropriation explicitly prohibits establishing one.
    Voth, 39, was a good choice for a Sisyphean task. Strapping and sandy-haired, the former Marine is cool-headed and punctilious to a fault. In 2009 the ATF named him outstanding law-enforcement employee of the year for dismantling two violent street gangs in Minneapolis. He was the "hardest working federal agent I've come across," says John Biederman, a sergeant with the Minneapolis Police Department. But as Voth left to become the group supervisor of Phoenix Group VII, a friend warned him: "You're destined to fail."
    Voth's mandate was to stop gun traffickers in Arizona, the state ranked by the gun-control advocacy group Legal Community Against Violence as having the nation's "weakest gun violence prevention laws." Just 200 miles from Mexico, which prohibits gun sales, the Phoenix area is home to 853 federally licensed firearms dealers. Billboards advertise volume discounts for multiple purchases.
    Customers can legally buy as many weapons as they want in Arizona as long as they're 18 or older and pass a criminal background check. There are no waiting periods and no need for permits, and buyers are allowed to resell the guns. "In Arizona," says Voth, "someone buying three guns is like someone buying a sandwich."
    By 2009 the Sinaloa drug cartel had made Phoenix its gun supermarket and recruited young Americans as its designated shoppers or straw purchasers. Voth and his agents began investigating a group of buyers, some not even old enough to buy beer, whose members were plunking down as much as $20,000 in cash to purchase up to 20 semiautomatics at a time, and then delivering the weapons to others.

    That's what really happened and the NRA is responsible for the weapons going to Mexico, Not Eric Holder. You want justice for Brian Terry? I doubt it. Your hatred overshadows any truth that may be out there.
    (more)
  • Chi~Cat gil vaz... 2012/06/28 23:33:09
  • zapped gil vaz... 2012/06/29 04:17:25 (edited)
    zapped
    this one is for you troll.....we can smell you folks a mile away any more
    well
  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/06/28 21:35:39
    WithHolder deserves it
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +6
    So funny the dem proggies thought they won with obamatax. HA! they ain't seen nothing yet!!
  • Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/28 21:27:30
    WithHolder deserves it
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    This is a good first step!!
  • Walt 2012/06/28 21:23:29
    WithHolder deserves it
    Walt
    +6
    "... The practical, immediate impact of the contempt votes will be minimal. Holder remains as attorney general with strong backing from Obama, and any criminal referral after the contempt vote is unlikely to go far ... "


    It appears there are two classes of people; those of us who have to obey the law and political appointees who are deemed above having to honor the law.

    This has to go further. Criminal charges are appropriate and they must stick, otherwise on a pragmatic level there is no such thing as law in the U.S.
  • Roger47 2012/06/28 21:11:27
    Other
    Roger47
    +1
    The NRA is responsible for Fast and Furious. They have successfully blocked all attempts to make gunrunning a federal crime. The ATF agents could monitor the suspicious gun purchases, but the sellers and the buyers were committing no crimes, so there was nothing they could do.
  • Birthpangs Roger47 2012/06/28 21:14:49
  • Roger47 Birthpangs 2012/06/28 21:29:57
  • Birthpangs Roger47 2012/06/28 21:43:18
  • Roger47 Birthpangs 2012/06/29 14:17:45
    Roger47
    Then I;m sure someone on the right can find a federal statute that makes gunrunning illegal, and post it. Don't worry. I will not hold my breath.
  • ManBearPig Roger47 2012/06/28 22:35:05
    ManBearPig
    +4
    your really gonna use a blog as a source? wow
  • zapped ManBearPig 2012/06/29 04:21:57
    zapped
    +1
    well he's already proved what a mentally challenge person he is, so why not ?
  • Roger47 ManBearPig 2012/06/29 14:18:26
    Roger47
    Got anything, from anywhere, that says differently?
  • ManBearPig Roger47 2012/06/29 19:56:35
    ManBearPig
    anyone who knows anything about facts and research knows if you used that site as source for facutal based proof they would be laughing you out of the building... why dont you go back to school and learn a thing or two about research
  • Roger47 ManBearPig 2012/06/29 21:07:54
    Roger47
    Like I said, do you have anything, from anywhere, that says I am wrong? This story is more evidence I am right:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
  • ManBearPig Roger47 2012/06/30 13:34:39
    ManBearPig
    +1
    this article states nothing that you stated in your OP... it merely talks about how political the NRA has become and how much they control gun freedoms in politics... there is nothing in there that says ATF is controlled by the NRA... it says they use the ATF as their "villain" and there is nothing in there that said the ATF would not act because they posed no crime... hell it doesnt even talk about F&F in that article

    like i said if your going to use sources... make sure u read them first and they are reliable and pertain to the claims at hand
  • Roger47 ManBearPig 2012/06/30 16:57:41
  • ManBearPig Roger47 2012/07/01 14:57:12
    ManBearPig
    again you are a babbling idiot... like i said previously this does not defend your claim that the NRA has control of ATF if you actually read your articles you would NRA has more leeway with Congress in passing or preventing these bans
  • Diane S... Birthpangs 2012/06/29 00:30:25
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +1
    Roger 47 is a lib who is a Zombie of Obama----brain dead !!!!!
  • BARRY0619 Roger47 2012/06/28 21:31:03
    BARRY0619
    +6
    What a ridiculous comment, on the other hand, we've come to expect these types of comments from you. BTW, Any sources to back up your claim?
  • Roger47 BARRY0619 2012/06/30 16:58:00
  • SK-LIBE... Roger47 2012/06/28 21:36:12
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +3
    PFFT!!!
  • Chi~Cat Roger47 2012/06/28 21:41:51
    Chi~Cat
    +6
    You must be high, again.
  • Roger47 Chi~Cat 2012/06/29 14:20:32
    Roger47
    Brilliant response. Make something up, then criticize me for what you just made up. Rush Limbaugh has made a career out of doing this. There might be a lot of money waiting for you in the world of right wing radio.
  • Chi~Cat Roger47 2012/06/29 15:11:50
    Chi~Cat
    In your own mind.
  • zapped Roger47 2012/06/29 04:25:38
    zapped
    but holder is GUILTY OF CONTEMPT.......... HA HA !!!!!!

    and the rest is nonconsequestial ....he had his chance ..but obuzo will go down with him ,,and if he werent guilty WHY did he exercise exeuctive privledge ....are you REALLY THAT CHALLENGED ?
  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/06/28 21:10:25 (edited)
    WithHolder deserves it
    Demonic Rat Hunter
  • bob'45 2012/06/28 21:08:24
    WithHolder deserves it
    bob'45
    +7
    I'll only be happy when he's gone forever.
  • none 2012/06/28 21:08:15 (edited)
    WithHolder deserves it
    none
    +8
    After almost 18 months of dragging his feet he got just what he asked for. I love the fact that so many Democrats wanted him held in contempt too.
  • stevmackey 2012/06/28 21:02:40
    WithHolder deserves it
    stevmackey
    +9
    I agree.
  • Birthpangs 2012/06/28 21:00:59
  • Diane S... Birthpangs 2012/06/29 00:32:08
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +1
    With Obama as his room mate LOL
  • COCO Diane S... 2012/06/29 01:58:53
    COCO
    We can only hope.

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