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Birthpangs 2012/06/28 20:59:55
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The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.

The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Hold

Dozens of Democrats marched off the floor in protest during the vote, adding even more drama to a tumultuous moment in the House chamber.

Another civil contempt resolution, giving the green light for the Oversight and Government Reform Committee to sue the Justice Department to get the Fast and Furious documents, is still pending.

The heated House floor vote on Holder capped a historic day in Washington, coming just hours after the Supreme Court, just across the street from the Capitol, issued its landmark ruling upholding most of Barack Obama’s health care law. The passions of the day were evident inside the Capitol, where Democrats accused Republicans of ginning up the contempt vote for political purposes while Republicans continued to charge the Justice Department with a cover up on the Fast and Furious scandal.

The fight over the Holder contempt resolution also drew intense interest from outside groups ranging from the NAACP to the National Rifle Association.

Rep. Darrell Issa, (R-Calif.), chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the lead Republican investigator during the Fast and Furious probe, said the House had to take such a move in order to get to the bottom of the scandal.

“Throughout this process, I have reiterated my desire to reach a settlement that would allow us to cancel today’s vote,” Issa said. “Our purpose has never been to hold the Attorney General in contempt. Our purpose has always been to get the information that the Committee needs to complete its work, and to which it is entitled.”

Issa also pointed out that then Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) backed a call for a contempt resolution against the Bush White House over the firing of U.S. attorneys back in 2008, which he raised to counter Democratic charges of partisanship.

The practical, immediate impact of the contempt votes will be minimal. Holder remains as attorney general with strong backing from Obama, and any criminal referral after the contempt vote is unlikely to go far.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) stressed that Holder and the Justice Department needed to be held accountable for not providing sufficient answers to Congress about what happened during Fast and Furious.

“Now, I don’t take this matter lightly. I frankly hoped it would never come to this,” Boehner said. “But no Justice Department is above the law and no Justice Department is above the Constitution, which each of us has sworn to uphold.”

But the GOP-led move infuriated other Democrats, especially minority lawmakers, who see racism and unbridled partisanship in the Republican drive to sanction the first African-American to hold the attorney general post in U.S. history.

The Democratic walkout was led by the Congressional Black Caucus, many of whom gathered outside the Capitol while their GOP colleagues moved against Holder.



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  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/07/04 16:21:39
    WithHolder deserves it
    Charles R. Anderson
    +1
    The Attorney General of the Dept. of Justice has consistently operated to thwart justice and to foster tyranny.
  • Birthpangs Charles... 2012/07/04 16:51:19
  • w2xad 2012/06/30 13:20:36
  • endthefed.soundmoney 2012/06/30 00:02:11
    WithHolder deserves it
    endthefed.soundmoney
    +1
    so, where is the justice?
  • Dan Hawkins 2012/06/29 14:19:23
    WithHolder deserves it
    Dan Hawkins
    +2
    Arrogance and a real unAmerican presuppositional mindset. How rude!
  • Apache 2012/06/29 14:04:45
  • kaZappoo Apache 2012/06/30 23:30:45
    kaZappoo
    +2
    that is excellent ..I copied it for later use ....
  • snafu2 2012/06/29 13:55:27
    WithHolder deserves it
    snafu2
    +2
    Time for the house of cards to fall..
  • CAPISCE 2012/06/29 12:20:31
    WithHolder deserves it
    CAPISCE
  • Eric Albertson 2012/06/29 10:35:19
  • Jeff Smith 2012/06/29 04:34:40
    WithHolder deserves it
    Jeff Smith
    +2
    I'm thinking Obama cut a deal with John Roberts here's what Eric gets Erics end
  • AL 2012/06/29 04:29:05
    WithHolder deserves it
    AL
    +2
    I just don't know why this damn thug isn't in a federal prison himself by now?
  • kaZappoo 2012/06/29 04:02:22
    WithHolder deserves it
    kaZappoo
    +3
    well piguolsi mada comment that they should be creating jobs ,,but she sure was after the rep in the bush days ...but holder should have been cooperative !

    holder & obama (soetoro) needs to be held accountable & "PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE "

    whats obvious is that ( with the actions taken lately by both ) it's looking like a guilty verdict ..

    and if I was holder I would have been there to defend my self "if possible " not at disney world !

    now they could sentence him to impeachment ( forced resignation or jail ) or all three !

    I would think impeachment for holder would be appropriate & investigating obama (soetoro) as well ..overuling his exeuctive privledge !

    which make obama ( soetoro) look very guilty !
  • The Duke 2012/06/29 03:43:54
    WithHolder deserves it
    The Duke
    +2
    Good to see SOME good news out of Washington today. And yes, Holder richly deserves it, as does Zer0-bama, but of course he'll dodge the bullet and use Holder as the sacrificial lamb.
  • Stardust 2012/06/29 03:31:14
  • Space Invader 2012/06/29 03:26:12
    WithHolder deserves it
    Space Invader
    +5
    You know what was bad about the Democrats walking out when the vote came up on the contempt vote for Eric Holder? THEY CAME BACK!!
  • Stardust Space I... 2012/06/29 03:29:03
  • Birthpangs Space I... 2012/06/29 13:19:52
  • mobilsq 2012/06/29 03:20:55
    Other
    mobilsq
    +1
    Sounds like he was set up as a scapegoat by higher ups.
  • Space I... mobilsq 2012/06/29 03:34:46
    Space Invader
    +4
    yes; Obama,,he do love them Kill lists....
  • kaZappoo mobilsq 2012/06/29 04:05:51
    kaZappoo
    +2
    it's surprising holder hasnt taken obama under the bus with him ,,,if he were being keel hauled he'd been about MIDship by now !

    then he hasnt been shown greybarmotel yet ...then reality WILL crash down on him !
  • Hawkeye kaZappoo 2012/06/29 16:10:45
    Hawkeye
    +2
    Remember.. Sandy "Burglar" Burger went under that bus for CLinton during the 9/11 commission hearings..

    It's NOT like this hasn't happened before.. It would be interresting to see what ole Sandy GOT out of THAT one..
  • kaZappoo Hawkeye 2012/06/29 20:32:49
    kaZappoo
    +1
    yep.....
  • Hawkeye mobilsq 2012/06/29 16:08:44
    Hawkeye
    +1
    I don't believe that Holder was set up at all.. I'd HAVE to believe that Obama and Holder decided to get caught when they contrived this Gun Control Scam and I just find that hard to believe.. It's MORE likely that Obama suffers from the SAME disorder that afflicts Drug Dealers.. Thet start out doing their business behind the dumpster and the longer they get away with it the more embolden they become.. Pretty SOON that drug Dealer's selling his drugs on the steps of the Police Station..

    Obama has NEVER been challenged before where the accusation of Racism couldn't bail him out.. It is UNTHINKABLE to him that this went this far even THOUGH his Cohorts are USING that attack posture.. Calling it racism,, Calling the people pushing for answers racists,, etc..

    But THIS is a SERIOUS matter that's NOT going to go away.. Not ALL the catcalls of racism will wipe away the gravity of this crime.. An ALLY was placed in danger by the arming of it's GREATEST threat by elements of THIS administration.... An ACT of WAR..This resulted in the DEATHS of American and Mexican Civilians alike..

    No.. Holder was never intended to be a scapegoat but he may well have to be turned into one..
  • Birthpangs Hawkeye 2012/06/29 21:23:53
  • Hawkeye Birthpangs 2012/06/29 23:20:03
    Hawkeye
    +1
    What happened there yesterday with the SCOTUS SHOULD serve as notice to everyone,, especially on the right,, what we "Extreme" right wingers have been saying for decades..

    That WE have been behind in the Cultural War.. That the left has infiltrated ALL aspects of America Society,, INCLUDING the so called right wing side of the aisle..

    That we have our work cut out for us..

    The Giant has finally awakened but he has a LOT of catching up to do.. Winning in November isn't the GOAL in this war.. It's just the FIRST battle in the counter attack..
  • Hawkeye Hawkeye 2012/07/02 00:54:38
    Hawkeye
    I just heard this morning that Homeland Security has issued a General Order to ALL Border agants serving on the Mexican/American Border..

    " At the FIRST sight of a gun,, Run and Hide"

    Can you BELIEVE this?? Run and Hide.. NO mention of what to do if attacked first.. Just RUN and HIDE..

    Anybody care to opine on WHY Homeland Secutity would issue such a ridiculous order to ARMED Law Enforcement Agents charged with the Security of our Southern Boder??

    Could it BE that with Fast and Furious NOT going away this administration could ILL afford to have even MORE of those American supplied guns showing up on the border??

    Might it BE that such a thing would completely debunk the Left Wing's contention that Fast and Furious is NO BIG DEAL and nothing but a Racist's Witch Hunt??
  • Mr. T 2012/06/29 02:48:58
    Other
    Mr. T
    +1
    I hate to be the "black cloud" here but Holder isn't going anywhere, Obama will see to that. Obama has already proven he gets his way, one way or another. And the fact that no one stands up to him the way we are paying their asses to do makes me want to puke.
  • kaZappoo Mr. T 2012/06/29 04:08:41
    kaZappoo
    +1
    well he had a victory ,,and will be handed a defeat ( well holder is defeated ) ..time will tell the rest !

    well see what the sentence will be !
  • Mr. T kaZappoo 2012/06/29 05:12:20
    Mr. T
    We will see
  • beachbum kaZappoo 2012/06/29 10:05:38
    beachbum
    +2
    We all need to remember that Roberts said Obamacare is a TAX - hopefully, he will have to spend the next several months defending something he said over and over again - that it wasn't a tax.
  • Hawkeye beachbum 2012/06/29 16:18:09
    Hawkeye
    +1
    Actually.. he SHOULD have had to explain THIS even BEFORE the Supreme COurt added a NEW Tax..

    Individual Mandate Excise Tax.. THIS has ALWAYS been a tax and should NOT be confused with the now defined Penalty Tax..
    We have the Surtax on Investment Income

    We have a Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax

    And the Medicine Cabinet Tax

    And the HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike($1.4 bil/Jan 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

    Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka“Special Needs Kids Tax”($13 bil/Jan 2013): Imposes cap of $2500 (Indexed to inflation after 2013) on FSAs (now unlimited). . There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

    Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers($20 bil/Jan ...






























    Actually.. he SHOULD have had to explain THIS even BEFORE the Supreme COurt added a NEW Tax..

    Individual Mandate Excise Tax.. THIS has ALWAYS been a tax and should NOT be confused with the now defined Penalty Tax..
    We have the Surtax on Investment Income

    We have a Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax

    And the Medicine Cabinet Tax

    And the HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike($1.4 bil/Jan 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

    Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka“Special Needs Kids Tax”($13 bil/Jan 2013): Imposes cap of $2500 (Indexed to inflation after 2013) on FSAs (now unlimited). . There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

    Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers($20 bil/Jan 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exemptions include items retailing for less than $100.

    Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI; it is waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.

    Tax on Indoor Tanning Services($2.7 billion/July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons

    Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D($4.5 bil/Jan 2013)

    Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike($0.4 bil/Jan 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services

    Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals(Min$/immediate): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS

    Tax on Innovator Drug Companies($22.2 bil/Jan 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year.

    Tax on Health Insurers($60.1 bil/Jan 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. The stipulation phases in gradually until 2018, and is fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits.

    $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives($0.6 bil/Jan 2013)

    Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2(Min$/Jan 2011): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns.

    Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting($17.1 bil/Jan 2012): Requires businesses to send 1099-MISC information tax forms to corporations (currently limited to individuals), a huge compliance burden for small employers

    “Black liquor” tax hike(Tax hike of $23.6 billion). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel.

    Codification of the “economic substance doctrine”(Tax hike of $4.5 billion). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed.


    So yes.. EVEN if this case had NEVER seen the inside of a courtroom..

    Obama LIED about this when he declared,, over and over and over again that Obamacare would raise taxes not ONE dime and IF the American People had been told the TRUTH about this by a MEDIA industry that could send THOUSANDS of reporters to pour through Sarah Pal9iin's E-mails,,

    Not EVEN the ONE PARTY RULE of Obama's first two years would have sold this to ANYONE in America..
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  • kaZappoo beachbum 2012/06/29 20:34:25
    kaZappoo
    +2
    true ( BUT THE ATTENTION HERE IS ON HOLDER )

    now holder is a scumbag ....
  • beachbum kaZappoo 2012/06/29 20:59:57
    beachbum
    +1
    His fellow dems in the house threw him under the bus when they walked out before the vote.........makes you wonder what they know that we don't.
  • kaZappoo beachbum 2012/06/30 03:36:28
    kaZappoo
    +1
    that was a felonious show of solidatity ( a joke more like )

    well more like what is obama intentions on using him as the sacraficial cow ...

    and more why did obama envolk exeuctive privledge ..

    these questions are more important than the healthcare B/S ,,

    I can tell you what obama ,congress & all them 's intent is ...!

    and it's NOT TO RESPECT & REPRESENT THE PEOPLE !

    it for them to have ultimate power over us all !
  • Hawkeye kaZappoo 2012/06/29 16:14:09
    Hawkeye
    +2
    You're assuming that being held in contempt MEANS something to these guys..

    You're ALREADY seeing their benefits from this.. The FIRST Black Attorney General EVER to be held in Contempt of Congress with an approval rating of about 13 %...

    I can SEE the title of his book NOW..

    "What it MEANS to be a Black Attorney General in a RACIST America"..
  • kaZappoo Hawkeye 2012/06/29 20:36:02
    kaZappoo
    and your making something possitive of this ?

    apparently your side is defined !
  • Hawkeye kaZappoo 2012/06/29 21:18:21
    Hawkeye
    Not making positive anything about anything.. Just pointing out that what is normally important to MOST Americans don't mean Squat to these people..

    They ahve AGENDAS and that's ALL that's important..

    Being held in Cntempt of Congress merely INCREASES their standing among their peers.. It's like getting arrested as an OWS protester..
  • kaZappoo Hawkeye 2012/06/30 03:39:42
    kaZappoo
    Ok ...agreed there ...

    like there being honor amongst thieves ?

    and this being another mere diversion of attention as w/ the H/C ref. and other's ,,yep .
  • Hawkeye kaZappoo 2012/06/30 11:03:37
    Hawkeye
    EXACTLY.. He gets to go down in History as America's first Black Head of the DOJ and doesn't even HAVE to give up the coveted HERITAGE of a successful Left Wing Black Man in America today..

    He STILL gets to blame his Downfall on Racism in AMerica..

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