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HITLER'S GUN LAWS

FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2013/01/02 16:43:04

For the edification of NITWIT, UNEDUCATED SH CONSERVATIVES:


The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit."

Under Hitler's Law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition.

The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP party members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.

The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.

The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.

Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.


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  • Bruno 2013/01/08 11:03:18
    Bruno
    +6
    So Hitler deregulated gun ownership aside from prohibiting Jews from running a gun business, today the gun grabbers are led by powerful Jew * politicians attacking the 2nd Amendment, and all the patriot-tards do is squawk HITLER HITLER HITLER

    thanks for hosting this discussion, I'm a fan of truth and seek it wherever it leads. Tired of false realities....

    *no offense to pro-2nd Amendment Jews, but when is that community going to counter Bloomberg, Feinstein, Emmanuel, etc?
  • Bubby Bruno 2013/01/15 06:52:20
    Bubby
    I think the Hitler yelling is because he is the most recognized tyrant in our modern age. He actually led an interestingly climb to the top through the manipulation of civic emotion and information control (similar to today?). He was the master propagandist that led his people willfully into eugenics and science based genocide.

    It's true that Stalin, Mao, and Pot committed similar atrocities, but their crimes are not nearly as documented, if not scrubbed, for public inquisition. The Nuremburg trials brought tons of information into the public record that the other tyrants remained hidden.

    I don't care who you use as an example. The point here is that history is repeating itself, and we could see that if we only got off our political platforms and look. None of this Jews crap, Bush crap, Obama crap---it's tyranny vs. liberty. And we need to call it as such in an action by action basis instead of just accepting the whole "party" package or individual as acceptable despite what they do. Bush was a tyrant, but Obama is now worse. We will keep going down the rabbit hole as one party first critisizes the other, but then continues the facade of power of control.
  • Bubby 2013/01/07 07:58:15
    Bubby
    +13
    Sorry Fawkes, you are only partly correct in your assessment. The weimar banned guns before Hitler took power as you mentioned (this was primarily to prevent the rise of the Nazis). However, when guns are banned and confiscated, what happens? Guns are removed from the population and this happened for 10 years. 10 years of gun confiscation would have a dramatic impact on the amount of firearms available. Then Hitler deregulated firearms as you mentioned, but the part you are missing is that in 1938, after the Germans weapons act, Hitler in a decree (executive order) banned Jews from the ownership of firearms, ammunition, and knives. Those who would not disarm themselves by the law were then in "violation of the law" and imprisoned. He then led one of the largest genocides in history against a people that he banned from owning weapons. Below is the text from the decree:


    Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons

    11 November 1938


    With a basis in § 31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and § 9 of the Fuhrer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p...

































    Sorry Fawkes, you are only partly correct in your assessment. The weimar banned guns before Hitler took power as you mentioned (this was primarily to prevent the rise of the Nazis). However, when guns are banned and confiscated, what happens? Guns are removed from the population and this happened for 10 years. 10 years of gun confiscation would have a dramatic impact on the amount of firearms available. Then Hitler deregulated firearms as you mentioned, but the part you are missing is that in 1938, after the Germans weapons act, Hitler in a decree (executive order) banned Jews from the ownership of firearms, ammunition, and knives. Those who would not disarm themselves by the law were then in "violation of the law" and imprisoned. He then led one of the largest genocides in history against a people that he banned from owning weapons. Below is the text from the decree:


    Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons

    11 November 1938


    With a basis in § 31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and § 9 of the Fuhrer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1331 ) are the following ordered:

    § 1

    Jews (§ 5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1332) are prohibited from acquiring. Possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

    § 2

    Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.



    § 3

    The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in § 1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

    § 4

    Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of § 1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

    § 5

    For the implementation if this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

    § 6

    This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

    Berlin, 11 November 1938

    Minister of the Interior

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  • Osama McDonalds 2013/01/06 07:28:02 (edited)
    Osama McDonalds
    +1
    Good post. I read so many ill informed posts that talk about how 'Hitler disarmed the German population'...that crap is all over the place. I thought I'd read that gun restriction laws were on the books in Germany during the Weimar Republic going back to 1925, 13 years before the Nazi came to power....so it is not as though when Hitler came, all of a sudden there was firearm restriction laws disarming the German population.

    The one that boggles my mind is the claim that "Because of HItler's banning of guns, 13 million Jews died'. What a completely warped and inaccurate piece of pro-gun propaganda that is! And I've read that re-post a number of times over the last few weeks. There were many reasons people died at the hands of Nazis but trying to infer it was mainly due to the restrictive private gun legislation of Germany under Hitler is kind of absurd.
  • Von Osama M... 2013/03/16 21:07:56
    Von
    +3
    Would six million Jew have gone 'quietly' to the gas chamber if they were armed? What is absurd is the the way the Left tries to change history to suit their agenda...
  • Osama M... Von 2013/03/16 21:36:17
    Osama McDonalds
    "Would six million Jew have gone 'quietly' to the gas chamber if they were armed?"

    You're comment is prime example of unrealistic thinking. First off, the six million Jews came from different countries, not just Germany so any talk of GERMANY'S gun laws in connection with 6 million Jews is bogus since there were estimated to be only 200K that were living in Germany when they started rounding them up for the camps...a good 2/3 of Germany's Jews were estimated to have left before that. Secondly, of those 6 million Jews from different countries, how many were women and children who most likely could not or would not have owned guns at that time even if they could? Again, your point is bogus. Thirdly, you do realize you can arm yourself with more than just guns...according you pro-gun nut jobs, a baseball bat is just as deadly as a gun ("so why don't we ban baseball bats?").
  • JCD aka "biz" 2013/01/06 05:10:06
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Thanks for your very informative post.
  • Skeezix 2013/01/02 17:30:47 (edited)
  • FAWKES'... Skeezix 2013/01/02 17:52:25
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +5
    Read through the list of questions for the past few days and count up all the "NAZI'S HAD GUN CONTROL" posts by Conservatives.

    As I said.. UNEDUCATED NITWITS.
  • Skeezix FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 18:05:56
  • FAWKES'... Skeezix 2013/01/02 20:52:26
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it, therefore YOU are the NITWIT.

    I guess you Cons are taking Hitler's position with the Gun Control issue.

    Sieg freakin Heil.
  • Skeezix FAWKES'... 2013/01/03 01:48:51
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2013/01/02 17:03:46
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +2
    Hows about a link?

    Because as you know, anyone can say anything here on sh and call it truth.
  • FAWKES'... tommyg ... 2013/01/02 17:05:23
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +3
    Hows about you look up "The 1938 German Weapons Act" and read it all by yourself? I hear its declassified now so you don't need security clearance.

    sausage links
  • tommyg ... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 17:13:58
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    Feel like being a dick today? That's okay. We all have those days.
  • FAWKES'... tommyg ... 2013/01/02 17:25:04
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +3
    Funny.. The only time I EVER ask for a link is when I can't find something. Some of us are capable of doing our own research. Furthermore, history has proven that no matter what link you give to a Con they cry "Soros!" or "Leftist Libtard Site!" or some other idiocy. Therefore.. LOOK IT UP. The freaking NAME of the act is provided.
  • tommyg ... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 19:57:47
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    All I asked was....you made a claim...and I asked for a link to your information. No more, no less.
  • FAWKES'... tommyg ... 2013/01/02 20:59:26
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +1
    Did you take History in High School? If so then you know about The 1938 German Weapons Act.
  • tommyg ... FAWKES'... 2013/01/03 17:06:51
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    Yes I did. We did not discuss the 1938 German Weapons Act. From the link Proud sent me, I think it would be better called the Nazi Weapons Act.
  • Osama M... tommyg ... 2013/01/06 07:38:30
  • tommyg ... Osama M... 2013/01/06 20:28:55
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    Thanks for the link.
  • ProudPr... tommyg ... 2013/01/02 17:08:12
  • FAWKES'... ProudPr... 2013/01/02 17:36:51 (edited)
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +3
    Its not his fault.. Pirates are used to following Treasure Maps I guess.

    ♫♫♩♫♩♫♩ Yo Ho Yo Ho a PINO's Life for Meeeeeee ♫♫♩♫♩♫♩
  • ProudPr... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 17:52:43
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    I spend so much time asking our esteemed conservative colleagues for links to support their claims and getting nothing back that I figured the least I can do is avoid doing the same to them.
  • tommyg ... ProudPr... 2013/01/02 19:49:39
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    Thanks Proud. It would be the considerate thing to do. When a person makes a claim, I ask where they get their information. Evidently that's too much for me to ask because I'm a conservative.

    btw - I ask the same from anyone. No matter their ideology.
  • Von ProudPr... 2013/03/16 20:52:47
    Von
    +2
    Here's as good a link as any...

    http://www.stephenhalbrook.co...

    Of course if you were not so lazy you would do the research yourself before you look like an idiot, and not count on the laziness of others to hide your ignorance. Intelligent people know the facts, just that most don't know where they can be found online to show the stupid... because at one time people read these things called books... and not Left-wing propaganda blog sites.
  • tommyg ... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 19:58:32
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +1
    Treasure maps....that was funny!

    But you're still a dick.
  • FAWKES'... tommyg ... 2013/01/02 21:07:07
  • tommyg ... FAWKES'... 2013/01/03 17:09:48
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    LOL

    "You're a dick." "No, You're a dick."
  • Osama M... ProudPr... 2013/01/06 07:59:35
    Osama McDonalds
    Hmm...not sure if you meant for this but you do realize that link goes to a page that is pro-gun and is trying to prove that 'US gun control laws have Nazi roots" (that's the subtitle of the book being discussed).
  • cinbadl 2013/01/02 16:53:21
  • FAWKES'... cinbadl 2013/01/02 16:58:22
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    Hitler de-regulated firearms. Another Conservative-Fascist similarity.
  • Wrangle... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 17:06:09
  • Von FAWKES'... 2013/03/16 20:47:53
    Von
    +3
    "Another Conservative-Fascist similarity." ??? Like saying. 'another apple-orange similarity. A Fascist is a socialist political party member of the Italian dictator Mussolini, of which the meaning has gone thru a progressive's meat grinder. By simple definition a Fascist seeks big gov't while Conservatism seeks small gov't.

    Can't really blame you, you're just a product of a very poor education system and left-wing propaganda... known as a 'Useful Idiot'.
  • bob h. cinbadl 2013/01/11 15:07:07
    bob h.
    Soooo? How many rich WASPs do you find in American jails? How many violent offenders do you find in jail. Hell; how many criminals do you find in American jails?
  • Wrangler Jane 2013/01/02 16:50:17
  • FAWKES'... Wrangle... 2013/01/02 16:59:07
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +1
    So you're saying because Hitler de-regulated firearms, the Jews were led to slaughter.

    Got it, Thanks for confirming.
  • Wrangle... FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 17:06:43
  • cinbadl FAWKES'... 2013/01/02 17:26:13
  • Osama M... cinbadl 2013/01/06 07:39:50
    Osama McDonalds
    +1
    You do realize that was never confirmed that Hitler said that?

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