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HISTORY ALWAYS SEEMS TO REPEAT ITSELF!!!! A warning from the past, I guess we should have listened to Ole Ronny? Will we repeat the same mistakes made back then, or will we learn from them?

leahcim368 October 13, 2009 18:33:19

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  • +13 raves Attila October 13, 2009 20:10:43
    Attila

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    why? because the left targets our youth that don't know the past , and the ignorant who for some reason or another did not pay attention to the past.
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    Old Soldier October 19, 2009 03:24:40
    Old Soldier

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Unless....People should dig through their libraries for early history of our country. I post this for people that need to see that history, and hope this drives them to find it. It is also posted as a short history lesson for Obama, should he happen to read it.

    A Study of Liberty

    In the eleven years that separated the Declaration of the Independence of the United States from the completion of that act in the ordination of our written Constitution, the great minds of America, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Franklin, and others, were bent upon the study of the principles of government that were essential to the preservation of the liberties which had been won at great cost and with heroic labors and sacrifices. Studies were conducted in view of the imperfections that experience had developed in the government of the Confederation, and they were, therefore, practical and absolute.

    When the Constitution was thus perfected and established, a new form of government was created, but it was neither speculative nor experimental as to the principles on which it was based. If they were true principles, as they were deemed, the government founded upon them was destined to a life and an influence that would continue while the liberties it was intended to preserve should be valued by t...























    Unless....People should dig through their libraries for early history of our country. I post this for people that need to see that history, and hope this drives them to find it. It is also posted as a short history lesson for Obama, should he happen to read it.

    A Study of Liberty

    In the eleven years that separated the Declaration of the Independence of the United States from the completion of that act in the ordination of our written Constitution, the great minds of America, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Franklin, and others, were bent upon the study of the principles of government that were essential to the preservation of the liberties which had been won at great cost and with heroic labors and sacrifices. Studies were conducted in view of the imperfections that experience had developed in the government of the Confederation, and they were, therefore, practical and absolute.

    When the Constitution was thus perfected and established, a new form of government was created, but it was neither speculative nor experimental as to the principles on which it was based. If they were true principles, as they were deemed, the government founded upon them was destined to a life and an influence that would continue while the liberties it was intended to preserve should be valued by the citizens of the United States. Those liberties had been wrung from reluctant monarchs in many contests, in many countries, and were grouped into creeds and established in ordinances sealed with blood, in many great struggles of the people. The ordinances were not new to the people. They were consecrated theories, but no government had been previously established for the grand purpose of their preservation and enforcement. That which was experimental in our plan of government was the question whether democratic rule could be so organized and conducted that it would not degenerate into license and result in the tyranny of despotism, without saving to the people the power so often found necessary of repressing or destroying their enemy, when he was found in the person of a single despot.

    The trial of nearly a half-century of the working of our system had been made, when, in 1831, Alexis de Tocqueville came to study Democracy in America, and the fact is, it had been proved by many crucial tests, to be a government of "liberty regulated by law," with the development of strength, in population, wealth, and military and commercial power, proven out as no age had ever witnessed before. (and take note here, this was in 1831)

    De Tocqueville had a special inquiry to prosecute, in his visit to America, in which his generous and faithful soul and the powers of his great intellect were engaged in the patriotic effort to secure to the people of France the blessings that Democracy in America had ordained and established throughout nearly the entire Western Hemisphere. He had read the story of the French Revolution, much of which had been recently written in the blood of men and women of great distinction who were his progenitors; and had witnessed the agitations and terrors of the Restoration and of the Second Republic, fruitful in crime and sacrifice, but barren of any good to mankind.

    He had just witnessed the spread of republican government through all the vast continental possessions of Spain in America, and the loss of her great colonies. He had seen that these revolutions were accomplished almost without the shedding of blood, and he was filled with anxiety to learn the causes that had placed republican government, in France, in such contrast with Democracy in America.

    De Tocqueville was scarcely thirty years old when he began his studies of Democracy in America. It was a bold effort for one who had no special training in government, or in the study of political economy, but he had the example of Lafayette in establishing the military foundation of these liberties, and of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton, all of whom were young men, in building upon the Independence of the United States that wisest and best plan of general government that was ever devised for a free people.

    He found that the American people, through their chosen representatives who were instructed by their wisdom and experience and were supported by their virtues--cultivated, purified and ennobled by self-reliance and the love of God--had matured, in the excellent wisdom of their counsels, a new plan of government, which embraced every security for their liberties and equal rights and privileges to all in the pursuit of happiness. He came as an honest and impartial student and his great commentary, like those of Paul, was written for the benefit of all nations and people and in vindication of truths that will stand for their deliverance from monarchical rule, while time shall last.

    A French aristocrat of the purest strain of blood and of the most honorable lineage, whose family influence was coveted by crowned heads; who had no quarrel with the rulers of the nation, and was secure against want by his inherited estates; was moved by the agitations that compelled France to attempt to grasp suddenly the liberties and happiness we had gained in our revolution and, by his devout love of France, to search out and subject to the test of reason the basic principles of free government that had been embodied in our Constitution. This was the mission of De Tocqueville, and no mission was ever more honorably or justly conducted, or concluded with greater prestige, or better results for the welfare of mankind.

    His researches were logical and exhaustive. They included every phase of every question that then seemed to be apposite to the great inquiry he was making. The judgment of all who have studied his commentaries seems to have been unanimous, that his talents and learning were fully equal to his task. He began with the physical geography of this country, and examined the characteristics of the people, of all races and conditions, their social and religious sentiments, their education and tastes; their industries, their commerce, their local governments, their passions and prejudices, and their ethics and literature; leaving nothing unnoticed that might afford an argument to prove that our plan and form of government was or was not adapted especially to a peculiar people, or that it would be impracticable in any different country, or among any different people.

    The pride and comfort that the American people enjoy in these commentaries of De Tocqueville are far removed from the selfish adulation that comes from a great and singular success. It is the consciousness of victory over a false theory of government which has afflicted mankind for many ages, that gives joy to the true American, as it did to De Tocqueville in his commentary’s success.

    When De Tocqueville wrote, we had lived less than fifty years under our Constitution. In that time no great national commotion had occurred that tested its strength, or its power of resistance to internal strife, such as had converted his beloved France into fields of slaughter torn by tempests of wrath.

    He had a strong conviction that no government could be ordained that could resist these internal forces, when, they are directed to its destruction by bad men, or unreasoning mobs, and many then believed, as some yet believe, that our government is unequal to such pressure, when the assault is thoroughly desperate.

    However, had De Tocqueville lived to examine the history of the United States from 1860 to 1870, his misgivings as to this power of self-preservation would, probably, have been cleared off. He would have seen that, at the end of the most destructive civil war that ever occurred, when animosities of the bitterest sort had banished all good feeling from the hearts of our people, the States of the American Union, still in complete organization and equipped with all their official entourage, aligned themselves in their places and took up the powers and duties of local government in perfect order and without embarrassment. This would have dispelled his apprehensions, if he had any, about the power of the United States to withstand the severest shocks of civil war. Could he have traced the further course of events until they open the portals of the twentieth century, he would have cast away his fears of our ability to restore peace, order, and prosperity, in the face of any difficulties, and would have rejoiced to find in the Constitution of the United States the remedy that is provided for the healing of the nation. And it is here that lie our greatest hopes.

    It cannot be absolutely or generally affirmed that the greatest danger of the present age is license or tyranny, anarchy or despotism. Both are equally to be feared; and the one may as easily proceed as the other from the selfsame cause, namely, that "general apathy," which is the consequence of what I have termed "individualism": it is because this apathy exists, that the executive government, having mustered a few troops, is able to commit acts of oppression one day, and the next day a party, which has mustered some fifty men (Obama’s czars) in its ranks, can also commit acts of oppression. However, neither one nor the other can found anything to last; and the causes which enable them to succeed easily, prevent them from succeeding long: they rise because nothing opposes them, and they sink because nothing supports them. The proper object therefore of our most strenuous resistance, is far less either anarchy or despotism than the apathy which may almost always beget either the one or the other. Therefore, our resistance must be based on the powers granted in the Constitution to the citizens. Citizens that respect the powers of the Constitution have a greater power than a government that has no respect to those powers that belong to the people.
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  • +1 raves
    jitko October 17, 2009 19:09:23
    jitko

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    There's a book "Diary of the Great Depression" and the writer/experiencer says he is sure a Democrat will when the next election because everyone is crying out for "change." There were some socialistic programs enacted as part of that change and they've become so much a part of our lives that we don't see them as socialistic. We are weaker and more dependent now (imagine trying to enforce rationing as was done in WWII) and socialism all ready has a foothold. Why wouldn't we become more socialistic?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    (Sorry, my Apple won't embed.)
  • +1 raves
    USANana October 15, 2009 02:19:36
    USANana

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    and one of the ones pushing it is Ronnie's own son! I am STILL writing to my people in Congress and others too! U pray that Ronnie is right!
  • +5 raves
    AmmoLou October 14, 2009 15:52:14
    AmmoLou

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people and for the people, but a government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street…Our laws are the output of a system which clothes rascals in robes and honesty in rags…the politicians said we suffered from overproduction. Overproduction, when 10,000 little children stave to death every year in the US. And over 100,000 shop girls in New York are forced to sell their virtue for bread.
    There are thirty men in the United States whose aggregate wealth is over one and a half billion dollars. There are a half million looking for work…We want money, land, and transportation. We want the abolition of the national banks; we want power to make loans direct from the government. We want the accursed foreclosure system wiped out.. We will stand by our homes and stay by our firesides by force if necessary, and we will not pay our debts to the loan-shark companies until the government pays it debt to us.
    The people are at bay; let the bloodhounds of money that have dogged us thus far beware.

    Go Figure between Obama's money people and Wall Street Crooks our country is being destroyed!
  • +4 raves
    jscusmc69 October 14, 2009 03:38:40
    jscusmc69

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    To many AMERICANS are still ASLEEP and fall into the SHEEPEOPLE group!
  • +3 raves
    bls October 14, 2009 03:37:12
    bls

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    it's communism and it's coming at us fast
  • +4 raves
    Israelite October 14, 2009 02:37:29
    Israelite

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    it seems we will by todays vote . we need another regan. now .
  • +8 raves
    TheGroundsquirrel October 14, 2009 01:24:19
    TheGroundsquirrel

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    My uncle always said . . . "son, you can't get away from the train by running down the tracks!"
  • +1 raves
    jitko TheGrou... October 17, 2009 19:11:33
    jitko
    That's great!
  • +5 raves
    Sheila October 14, 2009 01:03:20
    Sheila

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    I have heard people say that the only thing we seem to learn from history is that we DON'T learn from history and I agree.
  • +7 raves
    DADDYFATS61 October 13, 2009 22:23:31 (edited)
    DADDYFATS61

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    BHO will add this to his already to numerous to mention mistakes. mistake agiain bho add numerous mention mistakes
  • +4 raves
    John October 13, 2009 22:22:21
    John

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    I fear we will make the same mistake again. But, we might just have a bill with a public option. I shall keep my fingers crossed.
  • +5 raves
    Cathy October 13, 2009 21:24:45
    Cathy

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Yes, history have a way of repeating itself! This issue concerning health care, still might not pass, it's up to the people!!!
  • +7 raves
    Tiger Annie. AMERICAN. . w... October 13, 2009 21:09:16
    Tiger Annie.  AMERICAN. . waving the flag!

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    We keep making the same ones over and over again. We never learn because most people play deaf, dumb and blind to what is really going on in this country.
  • +4 raves
    QueliKelly October 13, 2009 20:43:59
    QueliKelly

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    why stop at medicine? people are still stuck in the 1950s, thinking that hating gay people, women, and black people is justified. we can´t seem to remember what happened just 59 years ago.
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    Stoney QueliKelly October 16, 2009 09:14:03 (edited)
    Stoney
    You know so well what happened 59 years ago, huh? Your Profile says that you are studying for your Master's......NOT in the United States, but Spain... enjoying all the perks of being young! Yes, indeedie, toots, you sure do remember 59 years ago like some of us ACTUALLY remember! Ha ha ha!
    young indeedie toots remember 59 years remember ha ha ha young indeedie toots remember 59 years remember ha ha ha
  • +7 raves
    Prairie Wind October 13, 2009 20:29:58
    Prairie Wind

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Considering the clowns this Nation's citizens have voted into office to represent them as congressional legislators, most likely we'll repeat our mistakes. This Congress has an appetitite for spending and knows no bounds at taxpayers' expense!
  • +8 raves
    Ssgtwaldo October 13, 2009 20:22:50
    Ssgtwaldo

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    As long as people refuse to learn history. We are doomed to repeat it...
  • +9 raves
    hermes23 October 13, 2009 20:14:55
    hermes23

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    November 2, 2010--Judgement Day! Now more important than ever.
  • +13 raves
    Attila October 13, 2009 20:10:43
    Attila

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    why? because the left targets our youth that don't know the past , and the ignorant who for some reason or another did not pay attention to the past.
  • +9 raves
    Shigyrl_7 Attila October 13, 2009 20:52:20
    Shigyrl_7
    That is very true.
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    Attila Shigyrl_7 October 13, 2009 23:04:07
    Attila
    Thanks my friend. How have you been? Raining hard here. I looked out my window at my motorcycles and they look so sad waiting for a sunny day. lol
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    Shigyrl_7 Attila October 15, 2009 02:19:30
    Shigyrl_7
    Im good went out with my munchkins today even though it was cold and wet here too.
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    Attila Shigyrl_7 October 15, 2009 02:46:53
    Attila
    I pray you had a good time. I think I will ride to Little Rock in the morning. Got a doctors appt at the VA.
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    Shigyrl_7 Attila October 15, 2009 04:07:21
    Shigyrl_7
    We did and it was nice just to get away from my small sleepy town. I hope your doctors visit goes well. Ride safe tomorrow.
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    Attila Shigyrl_7 October 16, 2009 20:26:25
    Attila
    thanks
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    Stoney Attila October 16, 2009 09:18:04
    Stoney
    You are so right.....but unfortunately, they THINK THEY KNOW, when all they really Know is what thier Socialist Schools & Teachers have taught them!
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    Attila Stoney October 16, 2009 20:26:49
    Attila
    ya, sadly
  • +8 raves
    teachaman October 13, 2009 20:06:57
    teachaman

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    we seem to already have made this mistake again in electing a certain Mr. Obama ... God blessed us all with the Gipper - we should always honor his memory
  • +8 raves
    Attila teachaman October 13, 2009 20:17:41
    Attila
    Well it took a bad president to get a great one then. maybe we will get another great one this next go around. I pray and hope.
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    Shigyrl_7 October 13, 2009 19:58:34
    Shigyrl_7

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Yes because we have become a nation that refuses to see the underlying agenda of our politicians at this time.
  • +6 raves
    Attila Shigyrl_7 October 13, 2009 20:16:37
    Attila
    awesome post.
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    Shigyrl_7 Attila October 13, 2009 20:53:09
    Shigyrl_7
    Its only the truth that we all know and our forced to deal with.
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    Attila Shigyrl_7 October 13, 2009 23:04:53
    Attila
    that is for sure!
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    Bushit October 13, 2009 19:57:00
    Bushit

    NO-We will learn from our mistakes!!!

  • +5 raves
    foznots October 13, 2009 19:20:32
    foznots

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Fellow Christians wonder how I as a Christian can support cloning technologies and research....

    My answer in one word.... "Reagan"
  • +6 raves
    Arizona1950 October 13, 2009 19:00:00
    Arizona1950

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Because there are those that think history doesn't repeat itself if we tweak it. Yet, they want the end result to be the same as was in the original plan. Huh?
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    emmamess ~Burst My Bubble` October 13, 2009 18:58:29
    emmamess ~Burst My Bubble`

    NO-We will learn from our mistakes!!!

    Its immpossible to repeat the 'same' mistakes since the exact circumstances are always changing. I would have chosen to answer 'other' if that had been an option on this question.
  • +7 raves
    rightside October 13, 2009 18:53:18
    rightside

    YES- we will make the same mistake agiain!!

    Ronnie, where are you when we need you?
    I miss ya!
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    Arizona... rightside October 13, 2009 19:37:57
    Arizona1950
    Yup, definitely wish I had listened better when he was here.
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