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High school valedictorian denied diploma for using the word "hell" in graduation speech: yay or nay?

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  • LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/08/21 00:28:11
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    LAAD Gunner - USMC
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    O.O An 18 year old graduating adult used the word hell!? Oh no! What ever shall we do!? I'm sure everyone in attendance was shocked and appalled at such a thing!! I'm sure the audience all gasped in unison and threw tomatoes at her for uttering such a ghastly word!! How dare that ear terrorist say such a thing to an unsuspecting audience!! I'm sure a senior citizen died in the back row from hearing such a horrid word and that six year old children throughout the audience have been traumatized for life! Or something like that....

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  • RobertChristopherLaity 2012/08/22 08:24:35
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    RobertChristopherLaity
    What happens at high school graduations in "Hell, Michigan" when they introduce the Graduates of Hell's High Schools?
  • Ken 2012/08/22 01:54:24
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    Ken
    If she was a liberal, she could say anything she wanted.
  • VX 2012/08/21 23:58:04
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    VX
    She earned the diploma period!
  • frank 2012/08/21 17:07:19
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    frank
    She does not need to apologize for what she said. Give her the dam diploma.
  • ray 2012/08/21 14:50:47
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    ray
    Is this due to the religious connotations of Hell ?
    What kind of Idiots are running those schools ? An apology ? for what ?
  • D D 2012/08/21 13:51:26
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    D D
    +1
    Denying her diploma? Come on!
  • tncdel 2012/08/21 13:32:47
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    tncdel
    +2
    Especially in a society being deluged with the "F" word and other obscenities, it makes no sense to punish this young woman for uttering a word found many times in the Bible itself. Would a Bible passage read by her have resulted in the same action by the school administrators? DUH!
  • Hotcho 2012/08/21 13:31:24
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    +2
    Should actually just tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine..they are Stupid and should be told so
  • Centuri... Hotcho 2012/08/21 16:08:10
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    Hopefully, "somebody" in this forum might know how to email those two and send them a link to this particular thread of this forum.

    The discussion in the msnbc trailing off of the article seems to be going in favor of he young lady just as well.

    The petty tyrants in the Prague School District have really stepped in it this time and deserve to be fired.
  • Don Leuty 2012/08/21 06:58:26
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    +1
    I think that the Valedictorian is old enough to choose her words and accept responsibility for the choice.
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/08/21 04:20:09
    NAY! [comment as you wish].
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
  • JenSemPa 2012/08/21 04:08:57
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    +2
    It seems like every week, we read about yet another dumb-ass decision by yet another dumb-ass public school board.

    At 18, she's old enough to vote, drive, get married, and die for her country in the military. So, I think she should be allowed to say a word that isn't banned on TV.
  • tncdel JenSemPa 2012/08/21 13:26:58
    tncdel
    +1
    She'd be a "repeat offender" if she read many of the passages found in the Bible. :)~
  • Centurion~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/21 04:04:05
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    +3
    The young lady EARNED the diploma and "one word" in a graduation speech does not change that.

    This principal and superintendent are apparently so accustomed to bullying students that they think nothing of still trying to "control" her three months after she has graduated. When I graduated from High School in 1972, I walked across the stage and when I came down the stairs on the other side my diploma was in hand.

    When I graduated from college in 2007, I was presented with an empty vinyl binder which I was told to drop in a receptacle and that my graduation certificate would be mailed to me "after" they knew that I'd passed all of my courses and my fees were paid. Funny thing was, I KNEW then that I had passed all of my courses with an overall 3.51 GPA and I KNEW that all of my fees were paid. Why didn't the college know? Were they waiting to see if I would throw off my robe and "streak" across the grounds and would hold it if I, or anyone else had done so? Oh yes, some of you "younger" folks might not know what "streaking" is.





    When did High Schools stop putting the diploma in our hand at commencement? Do all schools do this now? Is this one more tool used by the schools to "control" the students after graduation? It sucks. It is wrong. The superintendent "...





    The young lady EARNED the diploma and "one word" in a graduation speech does not change that.

    This principal and superintendent are apparently so accustomed to bullying students that they think nothing of still trying to "control" her three months after she has graduated. When I graduated from High School in 1972, I walked across the stage and when I came down the stairs on the other side my diploma was in hand.

    When I graduated from college in 2007, I was presented with an empty vinyl binder which I was told to drop in a receptacle and that my graduation certificate would be mailed to me "after" they knew that I'd passed all of my courses and my fees were paid. Funny thing was, I KNEW then that I had passed all of my courses with an overall 3.51 GPA and I KNEW that all of my fees were paid. Why didn't the college know? Were they waiting to see if I would throw off my robe and "streak" across the grounds and would hold it if I, or anyone else had done so? Oh yes, some of you "younger" folks might not know what "streaking" is.


    streaking at graduation


    When did High Schools stop putting the diploma in our hand at commencement? Do all schools do this now? Is this one more tool used by the schools to "control" the students after graduation? It sucks. It is wrong. The superintendent "Declining to comment" is cowardly.

    This incident took place about three months ago. Why hasn't it been resolved one way or another yet unless it is just the petty tyrants in their school district offices still trying to control this girl even as she is about to start college? I think that the young lady needs to go into the school district office and start asking for her diploma, writing down the name and office of ANY person behind that counter who refuses to hand it over. Having a news station camera team might help. Then she needs to bring a lawsuit against the principal, the superintendent, and anyone else who works in that office behind that counter who refused to bring the diploma to her as requested. That might open some positions in that school district to more competent people.

    The principal and superintendent need to be looking for new jobs if she does not have that diploma by close of business on Wednesday. I'd say to "Fire them" if she doesn't.

    Since this is taking place in Oklahoma, make it "sooner."
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  • Vision of Verve 2012/08/21 03:25:38
  • Htcbm1 2012/08/21 03:19:16
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    +4
    The Department of Education is the biggest failure to the future of this country where stupidity seems to be the norm...
  • Bob DiN 2012/08/21 02:41:09
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    +6
    Sounds a litlte petty to me.
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/08/21 02:31:08
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    +3
    Administration is acting in a childish way...they need to go to anger management
  • RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/21 02:26:17
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    +6
    Public school "educators" appear to be the dumbest people on Earth.
  • Centuri... RJ~PWCM... 2012/08/21 04:05:21
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    +2
    Not all of them but certainly this principal and superintendent.
  • RJ~PWCM... Centuri... 2012/08/21 14:00:52
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    True, not all of them. But certainly too many!
  • Centuri... RJ~PWCM... 2012/08/21 15:55:54
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I'll certainly agree with that, especially in larger cities.
  • Mark In Irvine 2012/08/21 01:34:12
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    +3
    stupid ... the kid obviously is smart, disciplined and hard-working ... does the school seriously think that the other graduating seniors need to be protected from a word which probably a majority of them use in everyday conversation? adults are such idiots so often ... it's a good thing that the adults are closer to death than the kids as a general rule ... it's time for some of these idiotic adults to get out of the way and let the new generation take over ...
  • Pele Emerging 2012/08/21 01:32:10
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    +6
    And they can't legally keep her diploma from her, either.
  • Centuri... Pele Em... 2012/08/21 04:06:06
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    I almost wish that I were a lawyer, I'd have contacted her months ago.
  • Pele Em... Centuri... 2012/08/21 04:45:45
    Pele Emerging
    +2
    I hear you. I wonder what petty administrator thought he/she really could keep her from getting her diploma. Besides, the school district should be reminded that the word hell appears in both Shakespeare and the Bible. If it's good enough for the immortal bard, to say nothing of scripture, it shouldn't get their panties in a twist.
  • Classical Liberal 2012/08/21 01:29:34 (edited)
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    +7
    seems a bit more than ridiculous.
  • Centuri... Classic... 2012/08/21 04:09:51
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    And this conservative agrees with you.

    Heidi is bringing a beer for each of us!


    bier madchen
  • Classic... Centuri... 2012/08/21 04:45:48
    Classical Liberal
    +2
    Those legs.
  • Centuri... Classic... 2012/08/21 16:00:03
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    Yeah!

    Should I order you another beer?

    Hier kommt Ingrid!

    biermadchen
  • Duke----The Non Racist, Fun... 2012/08/21 01:25:04
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    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    +4
    Aaaaaaaaw
  • SFCDDT 2012/08/21 01:11:36
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    +4
    Just stupid.
  • Bozette 2012/08/21 01:03:50
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    +6
    An 18-year old uses the word "hell"...stop the world...Get over it people!
  • gvc 2012/08/21 00:31:57 (edited)
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    gvc
    Every Valedictorian has to submit their graduation speech for review.

    For goodness sake, she has a 4.0 GPA. She is smart enough to know changing her speech would not go over well.

    While I don't have a problem with the word hell, and personally don't think it's an issue.

    She knew the rules. She spun and lost. Hope she learned something.
  • LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/08/21 00:28:11
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    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +8
    O.O An 18 year old graduating adult used the word hell!? Oh no! What ever shall we do!? I'm sure everyone in attendance was shocked and appalled at such a thing!! I'm sure the audience all gasped in unison and threw tomatoes at her for uttering such a ghastly word!! How dare that ear terrorist say such a thing to an unsuspecting audience!! I'm sure a senior citizen died in the back row from hearing such a horrid word and that six year old children throughout the audience have been traumatized for life! Or something like that....
  • Mark In... LAAD Gu... 2012/08/21 01:35:12
    Mark In Irvine
    +4
    you are way too fcuking sarcastic! I like that!
  • LAAD Gu... Mark In... 2012/08/21 02:07:47 (edited)
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +3
    It's the best defense against stupidity.
  • relic 2012/08/21 00:24:54 (edited)
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    +2
    Crucify Her!
    ...but give her her diploma.
  • susan BN-0 2012/08/21 00:22:55
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    +5
    That's a stupid reason to keep her diploma from her.
  • Sister Jean 2012/08/21 00:19:19
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    Sister Jean

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