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Here's Ron Paul's Crazy Plan To Destroy The Economy. He will eliminate five departments, saving one trillion in spending, and only take a presidential salary of $39,336.

chgo 2012/01/13 01:03:12


Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), who is running for the GOP presidential nomination, released his economic plan to dramatically reduce the size of government in his first year in office.

Titled the "Plan to Restore America," Paul's plan would cut nearly $1 trillion
in federal spending immediately after taking office, while also cutting
over $500 billion in revenues when compared to President Barack Obama's
2012 budget. He claims his plan would return the nation to budget
surpluses by 2015.


Paul
would cut funding from nearly every government agency, while
eliminating several Cabinet agencies in their entirety. On the revenue
side, Paul would lower the corporate tax rate and eliminate the capital
gains and estate taxes.

Here are some of the cuts, and how much they would save in FY 2013 compared to the Congressional Budget Office baseline:

  • Cut over $600 billion from mandatory spending programs including cuts to unemployment insurance
  • Department of Defense: End the wars, freeze other spending. $196,695,000,000
  • Department of Transportation: Privatize the FAA, $39,936,000,000
  • Department of Health and Human Services: Cut funding for FDA and CDC, eliminate Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program. $16,972,000,000
  • Department of Homeland Security: Privatize the TSA. $13,788,000,000
  • Department of State: Eliminate foreign aid and dues for international organizations. $19,412,000,000
  • Environmental Protection Agency: 30 percent cut from 2006 levels. $4,281,000,000
  • Eliminate the Departments of Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Commerce, Interior and Education. $173,677,000,000
  • Cut Medicaid spending by $95,000,000,000 (34% cut)
  • Cut Food Stamps program by $50,000,000,000 (62% cut)
  • Cut Child Nutrition programs by $7,000,000,000 (33% cut)
  • The plan does not reduce Social Security, Medicare, or retirement program spending

Notably
the plan does not include an analysis of the economic effects of Paul's
proposed budget — though cutting $1 trillion from the federal budget
would be an instantaneous 7 percent cut to GDP, nearly equivalent to the
slowdown seen during the 'Great Recession.'


And proof right here that this guy has lost his mind.


Department of Education: They oversee things like ensuring the
nations education follows civil rights, students can get financial aid,
special education, adult education. Yeah, lets privatize all that and
the market will ensure that our children get the best education...



Department of Energy: They only oversee everything nuclear in our
country. Waste disposal, plant standards, and weapons. Not to mention
they help ensure standards in power and power generation across the
country. OH, they are also the largest sponsors of R&D; and are the
department that has such no-name labs like Lawrence Livermore, Los
Alamos, Oak Ridge, and Ames, but they've never done anything of
importance.



Department of Commerce: Guess there is no need for NOAA, National
Weather Service, Patent and Trademark office, National Institute of
Standards and Technology, National Telecommunications and Information
Administration. The industry will self regulate right? I mean
ATT/Comcast and all the companies are doing such a great job, right?



Department of the Interior: Yeah, who needs a National Parks service,
Fish and Wildlife service, Reclamation, or any of that other
conservation stuff that corporations and the market seem to always
respect. Right?



Housing and Urban Development: The mortgage crisis never happened, we
should remove even more roadblocks in the housing industry to ensure
the market can get everyone into a home...



All of these departments are regulatory and management departments
and were stood up because the market wasn't doing a good job, because
the market was excluding people, because the things these departments
oversee shouldn't be for-profit.

He also wants to cut all funding to NASA, the EPA, FEMA, stem cell
research, is against gay rights, the Civil Rights Act and would allow
states to have prayer in school.



The
problem with this is that it will result in a depression. There will be
few good options for growing out of that depression. There will be lots
of bad options for growing out of it.

I think that world investors may have to take some sort of bath through a
jubilee of debt forgiveness, unless we can start putting people to work
actually improving airports, roads, etc.

I am concerned that with Europe on the ropes, this would be a very bad
idea. Deutsche Bank is in really bad shape. There are others as well.
France may not be able to bail out banks without credit rating woes. I
just think this big cut now would be dangerous.

And you know Wall Street will attempt risk on trades. How can you cut
these when many staples are already priced too high? And jobs aren't out
their to cut unemployment benefits. You will see more people on the
street, hardly a confidence booster for everyone else. You could start a
spiral downward.




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http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/18/ron-pauls-bold-budget-p...
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  • Matthew Collins 2012/01/13 06:06:59
    Matthew Collins
    IT must be observed that the federal government places itself as regulators of our natural resources and every other thing they can. Far from being the protectors of our natural resources, however, they also exempt themselves from the environmental laws that private entities must comply with. As a result, the US government are the largest polluters of our nation including our parks and wildlife since they do not have to comply with ANY environmental laws. Similar situations exist in other areas and the post office is highly inefficiency and would do much better if it were allowed to operate without government intervention which is based upon political motives not financial ones. If a people of a State feel such regulation is necessary, they are free to organize their State government to step up where the federal government is no longer involved, but then it would be come apparent whether government ran systems verses privately ran systems perform better and at less cost. As it is now, it is not possible to see the differences as easily. Personally, I have faith in private market when allowed to run without interference from government. We have not actually had this in a very long time. Many of ht problems we have had with "private corporations" are because of the government re...
    IT must be observed that the federal government places itself as regulators of our natural resources and every other thing they can. Far from being the protectors of our natural resources, however, they also exempt themselves from the environmental laws that private entities must comply with. As a result, the US government are the largest polluters of our nation including our parks and wildlife since they do not have to comply with ANY environmental laws. Similar situations exist in other areas and the post office is highly inefficiency and would do much better if it were allowed to operate without government intervention which is based upon political motives not financial ones. If a people of a State feel such regulation is necessary, they are free to organize their State government to step up where the federal government is no longer involved, but then it would be come apparent whether government ran systems verses privately ran systems perform better and at less cost. As it is now, it is not possible to see the differences as easily. Personally, I have faith in private market when allowed to run without interference from government. We have not actually had this in a very long time. Many of ht problems we have had with "private corporations" are because of the government regulations that have allowed them to do with the government's blessing, what they would not have otherwise been able to do. The Housing crises was caused because the government stepped in and forced businesses to take greater risks than they thought were good with the promise that when the bubble did burst, the government would bail them out. But when it came time to do that, the businesses were blamed and the government involvement that prompted the creation of those conditions was conveniently kept quiet and not discussed. Why would lenders make loans to people's who's credit was poor or who could not otherwise afford it unless those loans were guaranteed by government agencies like Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?
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  • chgo Matthew... 2012/01/13 20:35:57
    chgo
    Your "states rights" excuse isn't cutting it.

    "...but then it would be come apparent whether government ran systems verses privately ran systems perform better and at less cost."

    You have a really skewed perception of of how you see things around you, Are you on medication? Everything sold in the private industry is a lot more expensive. Although the nation's gross domestic product declined in 2009, health care spending rose to an estimated $2.5 trillion in 2009, or $8,047 per person, according to us today. That number will grow to $4.5 trillion in 2019, or 19.3% of the GDP, which is the entire economic output of the USA.
    As far as I understand it, your approach is pretty much "fend for yourself", and the market will take care of it.You live in a dream world. States have been proven time and time again to ignore entire groups of citizens. It just looks better if the larger group thinks they were correct in doing this. Paul actually said the "free market" would have ended slavery. But then being Paul, he said the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should have bought all the slaves. Does that make sense? No The Federal Government would have had to force slave owners to sell. Paul said his idea would have avoided the CIVIL WAR! I think forcing slave owners would have caused a CIVIL WAR. The man i...







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    Your "states rights" excuse isn't cutting it.

    "...but then it would be come apparent whether government ran systems verses privately ran systems perform better and at less cost."

    You have a really skewed perception of of how you see things around you, Are you on medication? Everything sold in the private industry is a lot more expensive. Although the nation's gross domestic product declined in 2009, health care spending rose to an estimated $2.5 trillion in 2009, or $8,047 per person, according to us today. That number will grow to $4.5 trillion in 2019, or 19.3% of the GDP, which is the entire economic output of the USA.
    As far as I understand it, your approach is pretty much "fend for yourself", and the market will take care of it.You live in a dream world. States have been proven time and time again to ignore entire groups of citizens. It just looks better if the larger group thinks they were correct in doing this. Paul actually said the "free market" would have ended slavery. But then being Paul, he said the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should have bought all the slaves. Does that make sense? No The Federal Government would have had to force slave owners to sell. Paul said his idea would have avoided the CIVIL WAR! I think forcing slave owners would have caused a CIVIL WAR. The man is nuts.

    "I have faith in private market when allowed to run without interference from government. We have not actually had this in a very long time."

    There is no free market. Corps already control a big share ( at least most) of the market

    "The Housing crises was caused because the government stepped in and forced businesses to take greater risks than they thought were good with the promise that when the bubble did burst, the government would bail them out."

    As usual, you are wrong. The origination of subprime loans came primarily from non-bank lenders not covered by the [Community Reinvestment Act, a law pushing the two GSEs to purchase more loans in the secondary markets and thus expand access to housing loans to low-income neighborhoods]; Prior to 2005, nearly all of these sub-prime loans were bought by Wall Street—NOT Fannie & Freddie;


    "Why would lenders make loans to people's who's credit was poor or who could not otherwise afford it unless those loans were guaranteed by government agencies like Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?"
    When the big banks began chasing subprime, it was due to the profit motive, not any mandate from the President (a Republican) or the Congress (Republican controlled) or the GSEs they oversaw;

    In fact, prior to 2005, the GSEs were not permitted to purchase non-conforming mortgages;The change in FannieM/Freddie M conforming mortgage purchases in 2005 was not due to any legislation or marching orders from the President (a Republican) or the the Congress (Republican controlled). It was the profit motive that led them to this action.
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  • Minarchist 2012/01/13 05:34:39
    Minarchist
    +1
    As an individual that knows a little something about the FAA I would like to see it privitized. I have waited for Nasa to be gutted so that space exploration and new innovations could come to the forefront of developing new manufacturing. There is no need for FEMA. The national guard, the red cross, private corporations and religious entities works without the red tape. DOE has been a fiasco since its inception. Privatized schools do better for the education of students (waiting for superman). National Institute of Standards and Technology can be assumed by AWS, ASME, and other multiple societies. Personally I wouldn't mind European bankers rulling the world. I think the US Treas.ury should coin our money according to Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. I hope we can have national parks turned over then we wouldn't have issues as catostrophic fires and only individuals visiting would be paying for its maintenance and less erosion would occur at the parks. I don't think taxpayers should fund it. I think he has some excellent ideas on how to save the Republic.
  • chgo Minarchist 2012/01/13 20:00:07
    chgo
    "...FAA I would like to see it privitized."

    Too bad, not gonna happen any time soon.

    "I have waited for Nasa to be gutted so that space exploration and new innovations could come to the forefront of developing new manufacturing."

    What the hell do you define as "new manufacturing"?

    "There is no need for FEMA."

    Really, idiot? If there was no FEMA, the victims of Katrina of that hurricane hit the northeast coast would be died, displaced, homeless, or be starving to death. What are they capitalizing on exactly? Poor have no money, hence no capital. The thought doesn't pass muster sir, it just sounds good. A solution in a sentence. And Paul had an opportunity to find a charity to take care of his last campaign manager, didn't he? The man died, and left his Mom with huge debts, all because when he was well, he was considered un insurable for pre existing conditions.

    "DOE has been a fiasco since its inception."

    Maybe in that mentally ill head of yours.

    "Privatized schools do better for the education of students (waiting for superman)."

    While you're at it, let's privatize the highways, police depts, food stamps. and the DMVs.
    The movie "Waiting for Superman" was saying charter schools and parochial schools are somewhat better than public schools.

    "I think the US Treas.ury should coin our m...









    "...FAA I would like to see it privitized."

    Too bad, not gonna happen any time soon.

    "I have waited for Nasa to be gutted so that space exploration and new innovations could come to the forefront of developing new manufacturing."

    What the hell do you define as "new manufacturing"?

    "There is no need for FEMA."

    Really, idiot? If there was no FEMA, the victims of Katrina of that hurricane hit the northeast coast would be died, displaced, homeless, or be starving to death. What are they capitalizing on exactly? Poor have no money, hence no capital. The thought doesn't pass muster sir, it just sounds good. A solution in a sentence. And Paul had an opportunity to find a charity to take care of his last campaign manager, didn't he? The man died, and left his Mom with huge debts, all because when he was well, he was considered un insurable for pre existing conditions.

    "DOE has been a fiasco since its inception."

    Maybe in that mentally ill head of yours.

    "Privatized schools do better for the education of students (waiting for superman)."

    While you're at it, let's privatize the highways, police depts, food stamps. and the DMVs.
    The movie "Waiting for Superman" was saying charter schools and parochial schools are somewhat better than public schools.

    "I think the US Treas.ury should coin our money according to Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution."

    I think they do.

    "I hope we can have national parks turned over then we wouldn't have issues as catostrophic fires and only individuals visiting would be paying for its maintenance and less erosion would occur at the parks. I don't think taxpayers should fund it. I think he has some excellent ideas on how to save the Republic."

    Everything you've said is devoid of sense, (You make no sense.)These state parks are a public trust and entity given to the people by past legislation and persons of good will and well meaning. This philosophy of “privatization” is nothing less than another form of a Teapot Dome scandal.
    Why is it that many idiot politicians like Con Paul and Christie of our time even bother to run for public office when they do not believe in government itself. This lack of public service while serving in office is quite unique and was glorified by President Ronald Reagan.The purpose of government is a noble one — promote prosperity, create harmony, prevent destructive competition among various groups. Christie reflects none of these aspects of purpose nor does his party.

    Corrupting our state parks is a form of blasphemy. We should be instilling better management policies, expanding biodiversity within and around our parks, providing more funding and inspiring others to treat our wild places in a respectful manner.
    These parks are not real estate, they are gardens of life’s diversity. Better managed, yes; privatization, no way.
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  • Minarchist chgo 2012/01/14 08:14:25
    Minarchist
    Really, idiot? <-----argumentum ad hominem

    " If there was no FEMA, the victims of Katrina of that hurricane hit the northeast coast would be died, displaced, homeless, or be starving to death"<---over a thousand died remember.

    I like your ideas on privatized: roads, police dept.s and DMV's, not a fan of food stamps.

    ("I think the US Treas.ury should coin our money according to Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution." ------ I think they do.) The private federal reserve bank prints fiat money. It says Federal Reserve note on the top, rather than silver or gold certificate. When was the last time you exchanged silver or gold at the bank? December 23rd, 1913 --- the creature from Jekyll island.

    six words to look up in order: Violence, Force, Law, Justice, Liberty, Peace ---you will find that most laws are unjust they are an act of violence through force which is the opposite of justice, liberty, and peace.

    Rather than hatred, I come to you with peaceful coercion unlike many that use an antithesis coercion. Please take a chance to watch these videos.








  • Cyan9 2012/01/13 03:09:57 (edited)
    Cyan9
    +2
    You forgot the complete destruction of our currency via ending the Fed. Ron Paul's economic policy is so ridiculous it's hard to imagine anyway he could get Congress to implement it. But then one remembers most of those things are what Republicans want. To go back to the times of the gilded age.
  • chgo Cyan9 2012/01/13 03:38:25
    chgo
    +1
    Is it all a coincidence he wants us to return to the gold standard (which was what caused the Great Depression to begin with) and him having big investments in gold?
  • Matthew... chgo 2012/01/13 05:46:00
    Matthew Collins
    The Great Depression was not caused by the Gold Standard. It was caused by the Federal Reserve creating easy credit and funding an artificial boom by inflating our currency rapidly and then restricted the ability to get loans easily which then reduced the influx of newly created money causing a crash. Our boom bust cycle we see in various areas of our economy are caused by the same actions and are completely unnatural to a healthy and stable economy. You need to do research into the Federal Reserve and you could start with G. Edward Griffin's "The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve System" or "Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country" by William Greider.
  • chgo Matthew... 2012/01/13 20:09:54
    chgo
    the Gold Standard was responsible for prolonging The Great Depression

    Adherence to the gold standard prevented the Federal Reserve from expanding the money supply in order to stimulate the economy, fund insolvent banks and fund government deficits which could "prime the pump" for an expansion. Once the US went off the gold standard, it became free to engage in such money creation. The gold standard limited the flexibility of the central banks' monetary policy by limiting their ability to expand the money supply, and thus their ability to lower interest rates. In the US, the Federal Reserve was required by law to have 40% gold backing of its Federal Reserve demand notes, and thus, could not expand the money supply beyond what was allowed by the gold reserves held in their vaults.
    http://www.jstor.org/pss/1807996
  • Matthew... Cyan9 2012/01/13 05:55:39
    Matthew Collins
    +1
    The United States can run fine without the Federal Reserve, we have only had the Fed since 1913 and have experienced the greatest amount of inflation in the past 99 years that we have ever had since we founded the United States and had the Continental as our money which became worthless in only a few years. While we had our money as silver or gold or at least tied to silver and gold there was a restriction on how much the dollar could be inflated, without that backing it is only limited by the people's willingness to accept it and their belief in our government's ability to tax us enough to pay their debts. Ron Paul's plan would not be the first time we have undergone a change of our money and we have survived it before and it was always an improvement resulting in a stronger dollar after an economic crisis that prompted it, like what we are in now. In addition the plan of the Fed is to inflate the money an introduce a new currency to replace the old when it gets too inflated to remain viable and that change is planned to simply replace the money we use with one that has the decimal point moved a few places over to make it appear stronger. This way they can have endless hyperinflation without care for the actual money being used as it will be continuously losing buying power. The only catch is that all the other central banks have to play the same game which from looking at the history over the last century, every nation's central bank is onboard with that plan.
  • chgo Matthew... 2012/01/13 20:20:34
    chgo
    "The United States can run fine without the Federal Reserve, we have only had the Fed since 1913...

    Charlatan Austrian economists like you need professional help. Here's a paper explaining how retarded you sound right now:
    http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bc...

    Austrian economics is asinine, at best. Foolishly stupid at worst. It's just another restatement of supply-side theory which is completely contrary to how the world really works and how economies have been driven for 6000+ years. Only morons think Austrian economics has any answers.
    http://thereisnoaustrianschoo...

    gold standard is dumb and dangerous:
    http://www.econlib.org/librar...
  • Aurora Cyan9 2012/01/13 23:17:00
    Aurora
    We have already been taken back to the caves with Obama's economic plan, their is no where to go back too.
  • jacob crim 2012/01/13 02:31:59
    jacob crim
    +2
    I know these departments seem like they are good to most Americans but if you have watched any documentaries, mainly agriculture ones then you will realize that the FDA and the USDA are a giant waste of money. Most of the people working in those departments are paid to look the other way for corporations like Monsanto to do as they please.
  • Aurora 2012/01/13 02:30:00
    Aurora
    that is 39,366 to much, he should do it for free, because he is the only one who can restore America.
  • Minarchist Aurora 2012/01/13 05:11:15
    Minarchist
    40k is cheaper than 500k
  • Aurora Minarchist 2012/01/13 23:18:49
    Aurora
    I would rather have a president that is earning 500k, and that is not Obama, and have no doubts, let me be clear it does not include Ron Paul.
  • say what? 2012/01/13 01:59:28
    say what?
    +2
    Ron Paul or bust.

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