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Here's how to save our country from illegal workers from anywhere in this world.

Manuel 2012/06/26 06:00:54
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Here is part of a line from a very good Conservative friend of my here on S.H.
We have a lot of good debates whether we agree with one another or even disagree at times. We are always sound and respectful of one another and always try to get answers that will further our better sides of our friendship...This is one of those further answer moments.

Here's is a peak at a line he made in his statement and how I answered it but it inspired me to come up with a real sound answer...but the intresting part is found in my last parts...on how to deal with the problem of illegals.





He said; We concentrate on the Hispanics now because of the numbers and the open border. This is just one line from his answer that was a reasonable attempt on his part about how he seen things with llegals.

and I said to him;

Okay right there...but you will not see it...that's a racist profile view...now why do I say this?...because you are totally blind to it and unaware of it...you didn't mean to put it that way or mean it to be racist...but step back and look at it and you will realize how American born Hispanics can see that statement you made being a racist one towards them. If you wore their shoes.....

And here's why....We don't really know the number of illegal whites in this country...you never hear anyone speak of it in a way like..." Boy ; we gotta start rounding up all of those millions of illegal white people here"..nor do we hear get those millions of illegal Asians out. The point is that it's so relaxed to be an illegal white or even Asian. It's so relaxed that nobody can put an actual number on these illegals because nobody white in America cares about profiling them....it's only those from south of the border...or look like they are from south of the border. Understand what I am pointing out?...It's not a cut on you....

The only latest profiling added to this Hispanic profiling is now people that look like Arabs...

Now here's my solution.................................

So that's the problem...I see it clearly...because I am an American born Hispanic...

So IMHO the Supreme Court really needs to come up with a better law...


So hows about this one?...My solution to the illegal problem.....

People in every State who have private businesses should be the ones subjected to random Federal government checks to see if they have any illegal people working for them from any Country...if they do then that private business pays a major high priced fine for every illegal they have. Then the Federal Government Immigrations Dept will send everybody in that place back to their country of origin...with the money from the fines taken from the American businesses that hired them thus; using those fines paying to send them back home without our Government or taxpayers money.

(This sounds so good that I am gonna send this post the Obama Administration)..


Now if this is done...then nobody can complain that the Federal part of our Government is not doing their jobs. Of course this also protects the one's that are working here from other counties with legal papers with correct dates and time of stay.

With this type of system in operation their is a very low or no chance of racist profiling and it's fair to everyone in our multicultural Nation....

So remember, your answer or opinion has to be based on my solution...the upper part of the post was just an opener to show have this idea came about...
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  • bob h. 2012/06/26 16:37:24
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    bob h.
    +4
    " Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. The huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door". When did the cons blow out the lite?

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  • GOP Poison 2012/07/06 21:50:53
    A Good idea Manuel. And here's why.
    GOP Poison
    +1
    This would cause employers would have to pay a living wage.I also think ALL white people should have their"papers" ready because white Americans look an awful lot like Canadians
  • Manuel GOP Poison 2012/07/06 21:56:24
    Manuel
    Good answer...
  • ehrhornp 2012/06/28 23:10:35
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    ehrhornp
    I think it is making a mountain out of a molehill. I frankly don't like the idea of the feds coming to my door checking to see if I have illegals working for me. If you want to get rid of illegals and since most come from south of the boarder, work with Mexico to improve the situation there. End the war on drugs, improve working conditions in mexico and illegals will drop significantly. Expanding the power of the federal government is no answer unless you want to live in Oceania.
  • Manuel ehrhornp 2012/07/06 21:29:45
    Manuel
    +1
    much easier for all Americans to stop hiring them...but nobody want to boycott illegal workers...so we need the Feds....
  • ehrhornp Manuel 2012/07/07 02:05:01
    ehrhornp
    Ah, relying upon big government. Hope you are not republican. lol
  • Manuel ehrhornp 2012/07/07 02:19:50
    Manuel
    I would rather rely on my fellow Americans...but they keep hiring illegals...
  • Cordingly 2012/06/28 17:07:49
    A Good idea Manuel. And here's why.
    Cordingly
    I still fail to see why corporations get away with the blame on just about everything.
  • Manuel Cordingly 2012/07/06 21:31:03
    Manuel
    It's anybody and everybody that keeps hiring them in the first place...much easier for all Americans to stop hiring them...but nobody want to boycott illegal workers...so we need the Feds..
  • James 2012/06/27 03:09:19
    A Good idea Manuel. And here's why.
    James
    How would we validate they are truly illegal when they have someone else's legitimate ID? That would require.............an audit.
  • Manuel James 2012/06/27 04:55:36
    Manuel
    one step at a time....and people with false I.D.'s eventually get caught...
  • bob h. 2012/06/26 16:37:24
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    bob h.
    +4
    " Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. The huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door". When did the cons blow out the lite?
  • James bob h. 2012/06/27 03:10:04
    James
    +2
    You forgot "no cutting in line!"
  • Manuel bob h. 2012/06/27 04:57:04
    Manuel
    yea?....well the right wingers don't agree with that no more...unless " Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. etc....are WHITE people...
  • Soundstorm bob h. 2012/06/28 10:57:20
    Soundstorm
    +1
    The libs have been dimming that light for decades.
  • bob h. Soundstorm 2012/06/28 15:11:15
    bob h.
    +2
    Sounds like you dimmed your own.
  • Soundstorm bob h. 2012/07/01 21:50:18
    Soundstorm
    Now that's a pretty dim response. I believe you proved my point.
  • Pat bob h. 2012/07/13 07:10:48
    Pat
    +1
    Well said! Statue of liberty
  • Vision of Verve 2012/06/26 16:24:07
  • bob h. Vision ... 2012/06/26 16:44:29
    bob h.
    +1
    The only thing we have on the border now is Customs, Border Patrol, DEA, ICE, civilian militia, and Nat. Guard as necessary, local cops, State Police. Hwy Patrol. WE NEED MORE POLICE. At what point do you paranoids catch a clue?
  • Vision ... bob h. 2012/06/26 17:22:33
  • bob h. Vision ... 2012/06/26 17:42:22
    bob h.
    +2
    Correct me if I'm wrong; you're 14, live in Texas, and really, really know it all. Right?
  • Manuel bob h. 2012/06/27 05:05:33
    Manuel
    +1
    I would guess that as well of Brooke...lol
  • Manuel Vision ... 2012/06/27 05:04:19
  • ETpro Vision ... 2012/06/27 00:37:49 (edited)
    ETpro
    No, not when we can be East Germany or North Korea. Have you never heard of The Posse Comitatus Act?
  • Manuel Vision ... 2012/06/27 05:00:28
    Manuel
    that still doesn't solve the problem....that just make more violence...something the right favors....my solution is a peaceful one...you take away the cheese you end your mouse problems...the mouse will look else where for food (to make a living)...
  • ancientmath 2012/06/26 15:57:22
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    ancientmath
    +1
    Because it sounds nazi-ish. What defines a "private" business? Corporation? Single propretary? Partnerships?:Non-profit? This would be discriminatory against small businesses and used by large corporations to subject smaller competitors to illegal search and seizure tactics....speaking of which, your idea not a good idea as it is unconstitutional just based on that,
  • Manuel ancient... 2012/06/27 05:09:45
    Manuel
    no it's not wrong...all businesses...nobody gets a free pass...my solution is sound and non violent...and it's not discriminatory because large corps will not run it...and bribes will not be tolerated...you take away the cheese ...the mouse stops coming... end of story.
  • clasact 2012/06/26 15:33:46
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    clasact
    +2
    First of all emploers are already suposed to do this its called the I-9 form your suposed to fill out and show two forms of ID but no one checks it .Second emploers are already fined if caught with illigal workers but there is not enough agents to go to every company and no one wants to blow the whisle and see their company go under because of a high fine.Third a good portion of them are day labor and either get paid under the table or dont claim pay at all so knowing who and where they are is imposible
    One thing I still find very funny is a few years ago when illigals were proseting all over the country why did the INS not just back a few buses up to them and cart them off then while they were all in one place
  • bob h. clasact 2012/06/26 16:49:15
    bob h.
    Good idea. They should start on the North Shore of Long Island NY or say Westwood, CA. Areas like that.
  • clasact bob h. 2012/06/26 20:12:32
    clasact
    they had there chance when they were protesting and did nothing to late now I doubt it will happen again
  • Manuel bob h. 2012/06/27 05:12:48
    Manuel
    with the illegal whites?
  • Manuel clasact 2012/06/27 05:12:16
    Manuel
    the point i am making is it's all got to be revised .
  • clasact Manuel 2012/06/28 00:19:02
    clasact
    oh I will give you that but with so many here already and voteing it is almost impossible
  • Manuel clasact 2012/06/28 06:05:30
    Manuel
    there is so much hate and turmoil over this...We just might have a Mad Max society in the future.......
  • ZB 2012/06/26 12:47:48
    A Good idea Manuel. And here's why.
    ZB
    +3
    It'll force employers to actually verify the information given to them on applications. No one wants to pay those fines or the return trip fees.
  • bob h. ZB 2012/06/26 16:52:52
    bob h.
    The tomato harvesters here in FL finally got a raise after years of frozen wages. The got 1ct, That's one penny. Do you really think any of these farmers actually care what their names are? How silly.
  • ZB bob h. 2012/06/28 14:32:13
    ZB
    +1
    When INS raids them, they'll care then. It's the employers responsibility to make sure that the people they hire are legally able to work there. The law doesn't allow for "I didn't know".
  • Manuel ZB 2012/06/27 05:14:11
    Manuel
    +1
    that's the point...and it's non racist...because with this you will also find illegal whites...
  • ZB Manuel 2012/06/28 14:33:18
    ZB
    +2
    Very true.
  • Soundstorm 2012/06/26 08:20:35 (edited)
    Not a good idea Manuel and here's why.
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Your solution will only bankrupt and put out of business companies that don't have the resources to verify a person's legal citizenship. Why should American business owners be burdened with the costly process of confirming of fake documents and Social Security numbers submitted by all their employees are legit? It's the US government that has been dropping the ball for decades in the security of our border. And it's the Democrats who bear most of the responsibility for that dereliction by committing some profiling of their own with Hispanic illegals who are considered politically exploitable.

    Under the covering fire of racism accusations Hispanic illegals have given a privileged status as an historically downtrodden special interest group that is owed reparations. It's a tired cynical old game the Democrats play to build their own political base rather than serve the legitimate citizens of this country. And it is for that reason the Democrats will never commit to any solution to illegal immigration. It's just a political gold mine that keeps on giving for them.

    With an economy that's pathetically grown only 2% in the forth year of Obama's term nobody sees the benefit of playing race politics to punish businesses that are already at the end of their ropes in this hostile re...



    Your solution will only bankrupt and put out of business companies that don't have the resources to verify a person's legal citizenship. Why should American business owners be burdened with the costly process of confirming of fake documents and Social Security numbers submitted by all their employees are legit? It's the US government that has been dropping the ball for decades in the security of our border. And it's the Democrats who bear most of the responsibility for that dereliction by committing some profiling of their own with Hispanic illegals who are considered politically exploitable.

    Under the covering fire of racism accusations Hispanic illegals have given a privileged status as an historically downtrodden special interest group that is owed reparations. It's a tired cynical old game the Democrats play to build their own political base rather than serve the legitimate citizens of this country. And it is for that reason the Democrats will never commit to any solution to illegal immigration. It's just a political gold mine that keeps on giving for them.

    With an economy that's pathetically grown only 2% in the forth year of Obama's term nobody sees the benefit of playing race politics to punish businesses that are already at the end of their ropes in this hostile regulatory climate they currently struggle with under Obama.



    How interesting that you claim to be friends and mutually respectful of a racist you claim is a Conservative yet you don't extend the same courtesy to me though I've always shown respect to human beings of all races. (Ah-ah! No laughing face downloads! Reply with articulated reasoned opinion in words or not at all.)
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