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Here is who is really smarter between liberals and conservatives. (for the confused people who thought cons were smarter)

American☆Atheist 2012/06/14 20:34:46
Since I am blocked by the person who posted a story about liberals being dumber with no study, here are the facts.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/high_iq_liberal_atheist_mono...

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  • beach bum 2012/06/17 03:12:49
    beach bum
    unsure
  • Willie 2012/06/15 16:20:34
    Willie
    +1
    It's not so much that conservatives are not intelligent as that they are intellectually lazy. I know some people who are very bright who are conservatives, but none of them are good at reasoning because of a lack of practice.

    Then there's the fact that the right wing panders to religious kooks and bigots, which tends to make it look stupid. Some of those people aren't so much stupid as they are deluded.
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/06/15 14:40:11
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    I was starting to think that an exceptionally low IQ was a prerequisite for joining the GOP.
  • shenendoah 2012/06/15 04:35:53
    shenendoah
    I guess it depends on who you ask. Liberals surround themselves with fellow liberals because these are the only people they feel comfortable with. They like to feel they are not the dumbest person in the room and being with other liberals assures them they are not..
  • Phantom 2012/06/15 00:42:05
    Phantom
    +4
    I believe this is common knowledge
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/14 23:36:13
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Umm, Why not just say there are brilliant people, smart people and dim people - the come in both genders, they come in all ideologies, they are in all political parties.

    Those who spend time telling the world that their ideology is peopled with the only intelligent people have just proven themselves wrong and are showing their insecurities.
  • MidnightCowboy 2012/06/14 22:07:32
    MidnightCowboy
    +3
    You provided the proof.
  • David Lindner 2012/06/14 21:50:00
    David Lindner
    +1
    look who did the case study: socialists in canada.
  • America... David L... 2012/06/14 21:56:55
    American☆Atheist
    Show were they are socialists and how it would change the facts?
  • David L... America... 2012/06/14 21:59:14
    David Lindner
    look who did the case study:

    Department of Management, London School of Economics and Political Science, Houghton Street, London WC2A 2AE, United Kingdom; S.Kanazawa@lse.ac.uk.
  • America... David L... 2012/06/14 22:01:24
    American☆Atheist
    Where does it say they are socialists?

    Can you point out the flaws in the study or are you just saying it's wrong because it shows you are uneducated?
  • David L... America... 2012/06/14 22:42:21
    David Lindner
    Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa
    Reader in Management

    Office: NAB5.33

    Mailing address
    Managerial Economics and Strategy Group
    Department of Management
    London School of Economics and Political Science
    Houghton Street
    London WC2A 2AE
    United Kingdom
    Phone: +44 20 7955 7297
    Fax: +44 20 7955 6887

    look up his political views and who he is.

    hes notorious for infusing political views and science and a big time socialist in the united kingdom.

    backtrack on your statement about being uneducated.,
  • America... David L... 2012/06/15 02:07:23
    American☆Atheist
    +1
    Still seen no proof for him being a socialist OR that the study is wrong. Give a reason it is wrong, where is the bias?
  • David L... America... 2012/06/15 02:08:31
    David Lindner
    you need to google his name and political views then.

    he pushed for a socialist reform of libya.
  • America... David L... 2012/06/15 02:12:14
    American☆Atheist
    He wasn't the only one who came to that conclusion so I don't care either way. You have no reason the studies are wrong. Point out the flaws.
  • David L... America... 2012/06/15 03:10:14
    David Lindner
    the bias in the researcher, for one.
  • Glfer65 David L... 2012/06/14 22:43:00
  • Sean McDonald 2012/06/14 21:13:10
    Sean McDonald
    +1
    both are sides are dumb Independents are the smarter ones
  • Savior 2012/06/14 21:11:10
    Savior
    Both can be seriously stupid sometimes.

    Liberals think people who want economic freedom are fascists.

    Whereas conservatives think people who want freedom of making their own decision are criminals.
  • Foxhound BN0 2012/06/14 20:55:55
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    neocons are idiots.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/14 20:55:10
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    Not really. You're being too simplistic. You're acting on the premise that Conservatives only care about themselves and tradition and all liberals care about others and think outside of the box - this is completely false. I myself am right wing because the free Market makes everyone richer and decreases poverty, and is more effective at decreasing inequality than a mixed economy and lots of welfare. On the other end of the spectrum, you have Champagne socialists, who want to set up a mixed economy that directly benefits big businesses and allows them to set up monopolies, a bit like Stalin and Ken Livingstone, the old Mayor of London. Also, many conservatives aren't obsessed with tradition, they want to make the planet a nicer place - the women's movement destroyed many families, increased birth defects, left children alone in the day time, which meant they didn't learn moral values, and generally decreased morality and divorces becoming popular ripped apart millions of families. Basically, they want to help society, which is supposed to be a liberal ideal. Apparently not. It doesn't mean Liberals are cleverer, it means that empathetic people who think outside the Box are cleverer than bigots who just follow what they're told, whether it's the Bible, Mein Kampf, or the Works of Karl Marx.
  • Anonymo... Anonymo... 2012/06/14 20:56:37
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Also, Hitler made Germany strong again, so his conservatism clearly works.
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/14 21:26:45
    maybeimalion
    Conservatism? ..... NAZI = NATIONAL SOCIALIST,, where it is true that he was extreme right wing, his ideals didn't favor the rich, who he considered to be largely jewish... they favored the poor, he wanted to put the poor on equal terms with the rich, hence all the anti-semetism against the people whom he considered to be the rich people with jobs, (jewish people)..... fascism is an entirely different thing to liberalism and conservatism.. Hitler is not a good political argument for conservatism, nor liberalism and I would seriously question the moral and political agenda of anyone who says so... and I would like to add to this that most liberals think outside the box too, it just depends which box you're thinking from, and it could be argued that most conservatives like to try and portray liberals as bigots, hence why you may have come to view liberals as bigots, due to propoganda stemming from other conservatives... thinking outside of one box places you directly inside another, remember that next time you bring ad hominem into politics.. ignore all the propoganda and decide what is right based entirely on your view of the policies on offer, not just for yourself, but for everyone in your country.
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/14 21:38:48 (edited)
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    I know he wasn't a conservative, I was humouring the person that called him a conservative. He was radical centre - he scrapped all the trade unions and had some very conservative policies, but then he nationalised lots of industry as well. The National German Socialist Workers Party was a ploy to gain support from the largely liberal electorate. Also, he did favour the rich to keep their support, a lot of his funds came from wealthy manufacturers who would benefit from his regime. Many liberals and conservatives think outside the box, this guy is trying to generalise, neither side is more intelligent than the other, or maybe a liberal has a different type of intelligence... After all, if you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no brain. I see members of either side as bigots in different ways, I'm not some liberal-basher, I recognise both sides have their strengths and weaknesses, which is why I take the best from both.
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/14 21:55:20
    maybeimalion
    "After all, if you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no brain" churchill

    sorry i didn't read what it was in response to, its good to see that you are in fact somewhat educated on the subject, and wern't actually trying to use hitler to justify an argument.

    I also didn't realise you were against the generalising of either side, I thought you were generalising liberals as bigots.. and on a side note.. i would advise against using churchill's opinion to justify any argument, it is inherently biased with him having been a conservative at that age, so that quote is nothing more than propoganda to attract people to vote conservative, and it also suggests that you don't have a heart, which i know, you yourself will say isn't true, thus making that particular quote an innacurate statement, even in your own eyes.
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/14 22:05:27
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Not really, it's true, liberals are based on emotion and conservatives are based on logic. I'm not a conservative, I support a welfare state and I could never let people die out on the streets, no matter how lazy they are. I just support maximising wealth at the same time and helping people get a job instead of allowing them to become dependent on the state like has happened in liberal Britain... You do realise our whole school curriculum has been set out to make us be liberals? The topics we do in history, all about how Nationalism and Fascism are bad and caused the World wars, how capitalism and speculation caused the great depression, and in English, we had to study Of Mice And Men and An Inspector Calls - both telling us that greedy capitalists live off the backs of everyone else. And don't get me started on Geography and science, all Global Warming this and Global Warming that, you have to be very strong minded to escape it all.
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/14 22:37:32
    maybeimalion
    trust me on this i'll have very liberal views when i'm 40 and i do have a brain, Its not because i'm one of these lazy people who claim welfare, but because of the situation my family has been in for the last 10 years or so,(they're not the lazy sort either, its just down to some rather unfortunate circumstances) under a purely conservative government we would have been out on the street.. and I would not have the oppertunities in life that are available to me today.. and i want other people from poorer backgrounds to have those oppertunities too :)
    I definitely don't agree with your education system though.. that sounds stupid as hell to me xD
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/15 17:09:00
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Well, in my view, it isn't people's faults that they don't work, the education system, their Parents and peers and role models, and the government for restricting the economy and causing the lack of jobs are to blame. Some people are just plain lazy, and some actually want to work. What I propose is changing the regulations and tax systems to increase the amount of jobs and increase wages and reduce the price of things, and more welfare but for only six months, and much more restricted, so you can't buy anything but essentials with it, so you can live comfortably on them, but you're not buying any expensive cars or second homes or alcohol or tobacco or fizzy drinks and sweets and crisps, if you want that you can get a job. Also, unemployed people that can work will be employed by the government after six months if they still can't find a job. Of course, special arrangements can be made for special circumstances, like yours. It's other areas like the economy, schools and immigration that my conservative side comes out... I'm describing the English school system, you lived through it :P.
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/15 18:29:02
    maybeimalion
    +1
    I don't know what welfares like in america but here its pretty restrictive, (no expensive cars, no second homes, in fact my parents don't even own their home and could never afford to) and is already very means tested but in a non-liberal country it would be much harder to get by and the quality of life would be very poor... I guess to some extent thet a persons views must be in part a reflection of their experiences, as its impossible to know everything that other people have experienced and how their minds interperate those experiences... and based on that it is really ompossible for anybody to truly say what is best for their country and other people, its just as well we both have some form democracy, (unlike some countries i can think of xD) and its a privelege for everyone to have their own say.. which is kinda why i dont like the sort of generalisations made in this poll and various others, and im glad you agree with me at least on that
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/15 18:40:04
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    It's not nearly restrictive enough, just giving them money is a very bad idea. Yes it is a reflection of your experiences, my dad had nothing and he made his way up, bought a house and a car and raised a family, and I'm going to be upwardly socially mobile because of my intelligence, I think as long as everyone gets a chance of a good education anyone can be socially mobile, the problem is areas, society is so segregated, the poor only year about rich people on TV, they stay in their own community, they go to a bad school with bad friends and bad role models, and end up as druggies, because that's all they know. We need to homogenise society, have a free Market, help the poor help themselves, and cut down government to save the country. Also, the idea of welfare is to help people get back on their feet, it's not for them to live off, and they're not supposed to have a high standard of living, then you get the welfare state like ours.
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/15 21:06:04
    maybeimalion
    In most cases that is true of welfare except those wher a person isn't going to be able to get off their feet and return to work..are they not entitled to a good quality of life due to their disability? welfare does only really provide a minimum standard of livinv in this country and most people living off the system are prepared to make do.. the system is actually designed to get them into jobs but so many people lie about this and there is no way of proving it.. thats where the real problem is in my country.. it may be different for yours:)
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/15 21:19:50
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Disability is a special case. I believe that we have a duty to help those who cannot help themselves, and to provide temporary relief for someone whilst they find a job. No more. People survived for thousands of years without welfare, we can do now. The system doesn't work, because people are better off with benefits than in a job... I think we should just top up everyone's income to a certain level and that's it - it's simpler, no loopholes, and makes you working better off than on the dole. And it means you don't get these stories of people getting £60,000 a year for various benefits plus a £200,000 house...
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/15 22:14:26
    maybeimalion
    true.. that does sometimes happen, but its usually down to british immigration laws when people take are taking advantage to that extent.. our government doesn't simply give £200,000 houses to people who ere born here.. which is one area where i'm not liberal as that doesn't represent a fair society in my eyes, and i'd hope it doesn't in anyone elses eyes either.. bu as for the rest of the policies in my country its impossible to impose tighter regulation on the people who falsely live on benefits without also imposing them on people who should be claiming... that is the only downside to democracy.. I don't know what the extent to which people live on welfare in america.. if its possible to impose tighter regulations without affecting the people who really need welfare support then I agree it should be done, but not at the cost of discriminating against homosexuals and various other minorities, which is one of my main concerns with conservtism in the US
  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/15 22:29:55
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    British Immigration is a shambles, have a points based system that they have to pass to get a visa, and a visa lasts for three years when they have to reapply again, until they've lived in the country for 15 years. Any first and second generation immigrants that break the law get two strikes then are deported with a single appeal. No exceptions. If anyone has a proven terrorist link, is part of a militant islamic group, or just plain fails to assimilate into our culture, gets kicked out, again with a single appeal. Also, if foreigners who have immigrated don't teach their child English, they have to pay for them to be taught English. We need to crack down on these people. And yes there is, more tests for medical benefits, unemployment benefits only for 4 months, after that if you still don't have a job you get no benefits but are offered a job by the government, if you don't and have children they get taken into care until you can support them. Have you not noticed the signs or looked at my profile? I live in England as well...
  • maybeim... Anonymo... 2012/06/15 23:41:43 (edited)
    maybeimalion
    haha I didnt realise xD i thought you were american... has our education system really got s bad as you say? I agree with everything you've just said on our immigration policies... take it from me when it comes to medical benefits which have become more means tested over the last few years, I don't necessarily agree with the different brackets of DLA which have become more tightly imposed recently, as my dad is still incapable of working, but since there has been some improvement in his condition, his allowance is less than it was when he was first out of work, and that hasn't helped in the least with the increased cost of living, this situation would be worse under a fully conservative government for obvious reasons.. (although nick clegg aint doing much tbh) though i think more should be done to catch the fraudsters.
    And I can say having been on the dole in the past,,longer than four months is needed to find a job in a lot of cases.. I'm better educated than most as I can tell you are too, and yet i was still unable to find full time work for nearly a year, though I always had part-time jobs but working less than 16 hours isnt enough to live on, and theres a shortage of jobs in some areas as it is.. where is the government going to create these extra jobs? and whos going t...
    haha I didnt realise xD i thought you were american... has our education system really got s bad as you say? I agree with everything you've just said on our immigration policies... take it from me when it comes to medical benefits which have become more means tested over the last few years, I don't necessarily agree with the different brackets of DLA which have become more tightly imposed recently, as my dad is still incapable of working, but since there has been some improvement in his condition, his allowance is less than it was when he was first out of work, and that hasn't helped in the least with the increased cost of living, this situation would be worse under a fully conservative government for obvious reasons.. (although nick clegg aint doing much tbh) though i think more should be done to catch the fraudsters.
    And I can say having been on the dole in the past,,longer than four months is needed to find a job in a lot of cases.. I'm better educated than most as I can tell you are too, and yet i was still unable to find full time work for nearly a year, though I always had part-time jobs but working less than 16 hours isnt enough to live on, and theres a shortage of jobs in some areas as it is.. where is the government going to create these extra jobs? and whos going to pay for it? probably the taxpayer.. I don't imagine being on the dole or finding a job is something you've been through at the age of 16 so its very easy for you to suggest such a restriction, but its not all that easy in some parts of our country. I'm also not sure taking a child away from its parents is in anyway morally justifiable unless its a case of abuse.. which as im sure you know is also a bit of a joke in this country.
    Running a country is probably way more complicated than either me or you seem to realise though mate.. nothings black and white :)
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  • Anonymo... maybeim... 2012/06/16 09:44:27
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Lol, our education system isn't bad, per se, but there is much too much emphasis on pointless tests, and we don't learn very much, they basically teach us to analyse and write essays and use our brains more, which is good, but it makes GCSE's pointless, having an A* English GCSE doesn't mean you can spell or use grammar effectively, it means you can write an effective piece of writing and understand what texts are trying to tell you and what techniques you use... The only lessons you actually learn new things in are Maths, Science and History... But yeah, it basically teaches people to be liberal. I don't think brackets are a good idea, if you can't work, you can't work, there aren't really different levels of not being able to work, unless you're in a coma :L. And I definitely wouldn't do that in this current climate, first we need to simplify and lower taxes, scrap regulations on small businesses, make it much easier to start a business and employ people, get rid of the 'tax on jobs', the employer NI contribution, and change the system to incentivise employing more people. Then when there are plenty of jobs again, and there's no trouble with finding a job of some description, remove the minimum wage and job security laws, which will further increase the amount of jobs a...
    Lol, our education system isn't bad, per se, but there is much too much emphasis on pointless tests, and we don't learn very much, they basically teach us to analyse and write essays and use our brains more, which is good, but it makes GCSE's pointless, having an A* English GCSE doesn't mean you can spell or use grammar effectively, it means you can write an effective piece of writing and understand what texts are trying to tell you and what techniques you use... The only lessons you actually learn new things in are Maths, Science and History... But yeah, it basically teaches people to be liberal. I don't think brackets are a good idea, if you can't work, you can't work, there aren't really different levels of not being able to work, unless you're in a coma :L. And I definitely wouldn't do that in this current climate, first we need to simplify and lower taxes, scrap regulations on small businesses, make it much easier to start a business and employ people, get rid of the 'tax on jobs', the employer NI contribution, and change the system to incentivise employing more people. Then when there are plenty of jobs again, and there's no trouble with finding a job of some description, remove the minimum wage and job security laws, which will further increase the amount of jobs and make us more competitive, and I propose having a lower corporate tax rate in poorer areas, like the North and Wales, so businesses and professionals move up there, seeing as there isn't any manufacturing or mining work up there any more. It's the government's fault there aren't any jobs, because they restrict the economy because the government's run by idiots who prefer the EU and green energy to the welfare of their people... We should scrap both, by the way. And it would only be until they find a job, for the safety of the children. Running the country at the moment is complicated because the government has made everything complicated. We need to scrap it all and start over, we could build a much better NHS from scratch than we could by changing its current form...
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  • Jackie ... Anonymo... 2012/06/14 23:37:47
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Only thing wrong with that statement is that Hitler was a socialist
  • Anonymo... Jackie ... 2012/06/15 17:11:42
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +1
    Hitler was neither. I was poking fun at the picture at the top of the page saying that Hitler was a conservative... He was radical centre, he nationalised many industries and instituted public healthcare, and he banned trade unions and had policies helping the rich to keep their support...
  • Jackie ... Anonymo... 2012/06/15 17:16:57
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Understand, he moved from socialism to dictatorship with a small stop in fascism all the while condemning communism and pretending he was religious - what a guy!
  • Anonymo... Jackie ... 2012/06/15 17:18:39
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    He was never a socialist. The name of his party was a ploy to gain support from people - Germans were sympathetic to socialism at the time.

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