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Hebrew National Accused of Not Being Kosher: Believable or Baloney?

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Hebrew National, a hot dog manufacturer run by ConAgra Foods, has always been trusted to provide kosher food -- meaning their hot dogs fall under the strictest Jewish dietary laws. But the company is now being sued by consumers who claim their products fail to meet kosher standards. According to American Jewish World, 11 individuals filed complaints against ConAgra and AER Services, a third-party certifier, in May. The case is now moving to federal court.

AER president Shlomoh Ben-David said in an interview, "The allegations in the complaint regarding AER are completely and utterly false. There is no basis for them, and they are without any merit." However, the real issue here is AER's failure to adequately address complaints. A lawyer for the plaintiffs said, "How does a consumer who thinks he is buying kosher meat really know he is buying kosher meat? It's a very, very difficult thing for a consumer to detect, unless someone investigates." Do you think Hebrew National is selling non-kosher products?

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  • SK-pro ... Saye Saye 2012/06/21 20:53:02
    SK-pro scramnesty
    Get the fat free ones. amazingly there is no difference in taste!!
  • Rdtourist 2012/06/21 17:02:30
    Baloney
    Rdtourist
    +4
    Baloney until some evidence is presented, and that evidence could be as small as not having a proper rabbi there when slicing machines or prep tables are cleaned.
  • Marjorie 2012/06/21 17:02:00
    Baloney
    Marjorie
    +2
    and YUMMY!
  • M A 2012/06/21 17:01:37
    Believable
    M A
    +1
    who knows, still going to eat them
  • foobar 2012/06/21 17:00:15
    Baloney
    foobar
    +2
    It seems highly unlikely. Their entire business model and customer base hinges on this one aspect of production. Without a kosher designation (which I personally associate with quality) customers would flee to other companies.
  • ReindeerWS6 2012/06/21 16:57:00
    Baloney
    ReindeerWS6
    +1
    It's a decent enough hot dog, but could care less about the kosher part.
  • jimmy d 2012/06/21 16:56:38
    Believable
    jimmy d
    +1
    Who cares? Just because a rabbi didn't bless the food is meaningless. We have the FDA now. We don't news kosher status for food safety and sanitation etc.
  • JasonKaas jimmy d 2012/06/21 17:14:15
    JasonKaas
    Not to the jews. Not just about blessing and safety. Its about how you tortured the animals first etc. Because the regular way of making our food animals suffer isn't good enough.
  • mobilsq jimmy d 2012/06/21 17:31:48
    mobilsq
    +2
    The FDA is a do nothing organization that collects money from drug companies. If a food manufacturer wants to make a claim on their packaging they should follow through with it.
  • Bob DiN jimmy d 2012/06/22 18:42:20
    Bob DiN
    You got to be nuts to trust the corrupt EPA. However I believe Hebrew National is kosher.
  • Kozmo jimmy d 2012/06/22 18:53:26
    Kozmo
    +2
    Watch "Food Inc." You're whistling in the dark.
  • FunkyMunky 2012/06/21 16:46:07
    Believable
    FunkyMunky
    Kosher rules are pretty strict. They could very well have dropped the ball.

    kosher dog
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/06/21 16:44:07
    Believable
    NarcolepticGoat
    +1
    It is possible I suppose, but I have no clue. I'm not Jewish so I never wondered about that.
  • jeepsrule98 2012/06/21 16:42:32
    Baloney
    jeepsrule98
    +3
    I really don't care, because I am not Jewish.
  • evangelism_vision 2012/06/21 16:39:40 (edited)
    Believable
    evangelism_vision
    +1
    BOY that looks good right now! Excuse me, I'm going to the Frig. and make one!

    STAMP OF APPROVAL:

    STAR
  • bettyboop 2012/06/21 16:38:02
    Baloney
    bettyboop
    +5
    Someone is just trying to cause trouble or get something for nothing.
  • jimmy d bettyboop 2012/06/21 16:57:46
    jimmy d
    +4
    God knows there is a plethora of ambulance chasers out there
  • Golden Panther 2012/06/21 16:29:11
    Baloney
    Golden Panther
    +4
    Sounds something like obumbo's Nazi stormtroopers would dream up to put yet another business out of business.
  • jeepsru... Golden ... 2012/06/21 16:40:53
    jeepsrule98
    +1
    You're a dumb-ass!
  • jimmy d jeepsru... 2012/06/21 16:59:05 (edited)
    jimmy d
    +1
    Are you denying that obummer is anti-capitalism? Seeing where you reside and your anti American liberal views you must be for open-borders.
  • jeepsru... jimmy d 2012/06/21 21:57:22
    jeepsrule98
    +1
    Are you denying that obummer is anti-capitalism? One can not deny something that is not true, but nice try. I am glad to see you have your Fox News talking points down. Now get Hannity's cock out of your mouth it's embarrassing. You're so dumb you can't get your facts right, that might be because you pull them out of your ass. The number of border patrol agents on the job have doubled since 2004, from 10,500 to 20,745 and that is 2011 number. 17,659 or 85% patrol the Southern border as compared to 15,422 previously, that is a 14 percent increase. Also, the Presidents 2012 proposed budget calls for increasing the number of border patrol agents to 21,370 according to PolitiFact.
  • lori Golden ... 2012/06/21 17:41:03
    lori
    Well considering Obama hates jews and Israel that would be no surprise to me. Obama has made it very clear how he feels about Israel and we have always been close to Israel.
  • jeepsru... lori 2012/06/21 22:05:14
    jeepsrule98
    +2
    What kind of mental gymnastic do you have to go through about someone suing Hebrew National to come to the conclusion that the President hates Jews and Israel. Oh, you're on the same IQ level as Golden shower.
  • lori jeepsru... 2012/06/21 23:17:22
    lori
    just stating a fact avoiding meetings with the president of Israel , Obama attitude and Israel will be glad with Obama is out of office. I think Golden is a realist and maybe you should test your IQ. Obama has more problems then anyother President.And for one thing for sure , you need a bar of soap in your mouth. Clean up you act and get some class.
  • Bob DiN Golden ... 2012/06/22 18:43:25
    Bob DiN
    Agreed!
  • Grammar... Golden ... 2012/06/25 16:41:10
    Grammar Freak
    Considering that he bailed out some of the biggest businesses in America, I find the idea that he is in any way "anti-business" or "anti-capitalist" an incredible stretch.

    Obama's a dick. No doubt about it. But saying things that are completely illogical does not make one look well informed.
  • EstiHimelstein 2012/06/21 16:28:28
    Believable
    EstiHimelstein
    +2
    If you want kosher food, then look for the certified kosher symbols on the package - a product just saying it's kosher does not make it so. Hebrew National has never had a certification and you can therefore assume that it is NOT KOSHER!!!!
  • Grammar... EstiHim... 2012/06/25 16:47:33
    Grammar Freak
    Excerpt from Wiki:

    In the early 2000s, Hebrew National switched to an external certification group, the Triangle K, under the auspices of Rabbi Aryeh Ralbag which was widely seen as somewhat of an upgrade in its standards of kashrut. In 2004, the Conservative Movement found the upgrade sufficient to be acceptable by Conservative standards.[2]

    Nonetheless, the Jewish Daily Forward reported that most Orthodox authorities did not follow this endorsement, and most Orthodox Jews continue not to rely on its kashrut.[3]

    Hebrew National meat is not glatt kosher and its certifiers do not represent it as such. Accordingly, its meat is unacceptable to the majority of Orthodox Jews in the United States, where the pervasive Orthodox custom is to observe glatt kashrut.[3]
  • k fleming 2012/06/21 16:25:12
    Believable
    k fleming
    +1
    But, it's probably just a Rabbi that wants the certification fee again.
    That's a lot of money there.
  • Rubyking 2012/06/21 16:24:33
    Believable
    Rubyking
    they do it fo da cash
  • tobe 2012/06/21 16:21:58
    Believable
    tobe
    +1
    I'm sure there are slip ups
  • Kozmo tobe 2012/06/22 18:56:13
    Kozmo
    +1
    That's an understatement!
  • Sue Deenim 2012/06/21 14:54:38
    Baloney
    Sue Deenim
    +2
    They have too much riding on it to lie over something like that. They sell kosher food. If it's not kosher, they lose more than anyone.
  • Grammar... Sue Deenim 2012/06/25 16:48:05
    Grammar Freak
    According to Wiki:

    In the early 2000s, Hebrew National switched to an external certification group, the Triangle K, under the auspices of Rabbi Aryeh Ralbag which was widely seen as somewhat of an upgrade in its standards of kashrut. In 2004, the Conservative Movement found the upgrade sufficient to be acceptable by Conservative standards.[2]

    Nonetheless, the Jewish Daily Forward reported that most Orthodox authorities did not follow this endorsement, and most Orthodox Jews continue not to rely on its kashrut.[3]

    Hebrew National meat is not glatt kosher and its certifiers do not represent it as such. Accordingly, its meat is unacceptable to the majority of Orthodox Jews in the United States, where the pervasive Orthodox custom is to observe glatt kashrut.[3]

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