HEATHROW PREDICTS MASSIVE GRIDLOCK IN STRIKE

When you offer a argument like that are you saying the rich are untouchable and so the vast majority of the working class and middle class have to pay the tax bill. I watched Parliament today on TV and MP's from both sides were asking the Chancellor questions. I can honestly say that the Chancellor of the Exchequor comes across has a rich and bureaucratic moron. He will not except a argument if it doesn't fit within his reasoning. He said to one lady MP, that she should have listened to his question or response to dismiss her statement or question. He said to another who highlighted conditions for a nurse working in the public sector that he didn't accept that argument and another who was highlighting the inequalities in the country at the moment, i.e. families being given food parcels by religious groups while bankers and executives give themselves million pound bonuses. The Chancellor said his comment was ludicrous. When you have a Government who announce that nurses and teachers are militants and you have a Government that tries denounce honest working people who pay taxes, you are dealing with a Government that is closed to any other opinion than that of their party and their friends and yes men and women. If this Government decide to take this stand point instead of negotiating then we are in for a unpleasant time. We need a democratic Government who will listen to its voting public and if they find a difficulty don't slam the door, talk, discuss, negotiate. We are being run by a aristocratic elite, who have never had to choose between food, heating or clothing. They just don't get it. I will probably be inconvenienced tomorrow, but I spoke to people today on the phone who are striking tomorrow. They are low paid to average earners, just like anyone else. The tactics of the private sector against the public sector will back fire on this Government, because sooner or later everyone will wake up that they are being stuffed by this Government. Your argument re the wealth created by the rich is flawed, people who have no money can create wealth and jobs given the right opportunity. The rich are keeping the money and making more and the people who are paying for their wealth are the ones with none. Your wealth creation is working backwards and just feathering the nests of the wealth the rich have already got.

I understand what you say and agree with some of it. But socialism did not cause this financial mess it was the capitalist banks. Here regulations were set for the banks the banks approached Government asked for less regulation and they got it and then the banks failed. If anything it was nationalising the banks that stopped them from failing. We own the banks now and they are still giving themselves huge bonuses. Its scandalous. No one said including the public sector themselves that they didn't know they had to put more into their pensions, its wrong the way this Government are doing things and the way they are trying to demonise the public sector. In what kind of society would a Government pitch one set of people against another. Its just wrong. No body is saying this Government or country has a bottomless pit of money it dosen't but the disparity between the wealthest and the not so is huge. Why do you have to fix this financial climate by taxing and taking from the poorest or middle incomes the most. Our Government is quick to promote a Big Society and we are all in it together. Big Society that is only for the ones that think they own society and we are most definitely not all in it together. How can top earners and the wealthiest Chief Executive and share holders make a fortune when the rest of us are broke. We need growth and we haven't any. No one is talking about socialism its about economics and no one is making any money apart from a small percentage of people and they aren't investing it they are using it to make more money and keeping it. The top earners are sometimes referred to as the wealth creators it was they that betted their money in crazy schemes and guess what they lost. They would have done better putting their money on a horse or a dog at least they stood a good chance of getting a return if their animal had crossed the line.

Let's have a look at the European way, shall we?
Current European tax Rates



United Kingdom
Income Tax: 50%
VAT: 17.5% TOTAL: 67.5%

France
Income Tax: 40%
VAT: 19.6% TOTAL: 59.6%

Greece
Income Tax: 40%
VAT: 25% TOTAL: 65%

Spain
Income Tax: 45%
VAT: 16% TOTAL: 61%

Portugal
Income Tax: 42%
VAT: 20% TOTAL: 62%

Sweden
Income Tax: 55%
VAT: 25% TOTAL: 80%

Norway
Income Tax: 54.3%
VAT: 25% TOTAL: 79.3%

Netherlands
Income Tax: 52%
VAT: 19% TOTAL: 71%

Denmark
Income Tax: 58%
VAT: 25% TOTAL: 83%

Finland
Income Tax: 53%
VAT: 22% TOTAL: 75%

If you've started to wonder what the real costs of socialism are going to be - once the full program in these United States hits your wallet, take a look at the table. As you digest these mind-boggling figures, keep in mind that in spite of these astronomical tax rates, these countries are still not financing their social welfare programs exclusively from tax revenues! They are deeply mired in public debt of gargantuan proportions. Greece has reached the point where its debt is so huge it is in imminent danger of defaulting. That is the reason the European economic community has intervened to bail them out. If you're following the financial news, you know Spain and Portugal are right behind Greece .

The United States is now heading right down the same path. The VAT tax in the table is the national sales tax that Europeans pay. Stay tuned because that is exactly what you can expect to see the administration proposing after the fall elections. The initial percentage in the United States isn't going to be anywhere near the outrageous numbers you now see in Europe . Guess what. the current outrageous numbers in Europedidn't start out as outrageous either. They started out as minuscule - right around the 1% or 2% where they will start out in the United States. Magically, however, they ran up over the years to where they are now. Expect the same thing here.

It is the very notion that with hard work and perseverance, anybody can get ahead economically here in the USA . Do you think that can ever happen with tax rates between 60% and 80%? Think again. With the government taking that percentage of your money, your life will be exactly like life in Europe ... You will never be able to buy a home. You will never buy a car. You will never send your children to college. Let's not shuffle the battle cry of the socialists under the rug either. It's always the same cry. Equalize income. Spread the wealth to the poor (whoever they are). Level the economic playing field. Accomplish that and everything will be rosy.

It's time to take a really hard look at reality. Greece is a perfect example. Despite the socialism system that has ruled this country for decades, with a 65% tax rate, they are drowning in public debt, would have defaulted without hundreds of billions in bailout money from the EU, and still. . . 20% of their population lives in poverty. What has all that socialism money bought, besides ultimate power for the politicians running the show? Do you think these people are "free"? They're not. They are slaves to their economic "system."

Some of what you list as freebies you may consider to be our NHS in Britian we don't consider this a giveaway. May be we do pay alot in tax but we depend on some of those services. You may think that is depending on the Government but our Government is not that far away. I can visit my MP's office tomorrow if I wish there will be someone their to help me. I can get a appointment to see my MP and make a phone call if I want to speak to staff in a Ministers office. I am no fan of my present Government I don't trust them and feel we have been let down, but so has everyone. No body thinks that Government can give everyone something or will solve all problems. I cannot speak for other countries but in the UK we don't. But what we do think here is that the Government is answerable to the people who vote them into office and not the other way round. And unfortunately I do not live in a fair society, but I do believe I have a voice in it. I recognise some of what you say about giving to charity, but the owness is on the individual and what that person can give. I watched a documentary recently on the way bankers in Victorian times gave away their wealth, or assisted their communities because it was deemed avarice to have too much wealth. I do not think that everyone was up for giving away money. But things changed I do not vouch for capitalism or socialism or communism none of them work. We are a community whether we like it or not and all though we are individuals we are all connected. I realise you are possibly going to say we depend on Government, to a certain extent we do. I would rather have a Government than just one individual running a country.