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Health Care Reform - What Do We Replace Obamacare With if It's Overturned?

Ken 2012/06/25 22:04:38

With the Prospect that Obamacare May be Overturned,

What Do We Replace it With?

As a retired attorney who specialized in defending personal injury
cases, and who was involved in the defense of numerous medical
malpractice claims, I can say unequivocally that the first and
foremost need is for malpractice tort reform. The majority of medical
malpractice claims, I would estimate over 60%, are frivolous. The
plaintiff's bar will take on virtually any claim against a
doctor/hospital if they feel the patient/plaintiff is sufficiently
sympathetic and the anticipated reward is great enough. They simply
hope to “get the case to a jury” where they can argue for
sympathy for the alleged “victim.” While they may lose two out of three cases, that third case makes it worthwhile to "roll the dice."


Medical malpractice tort reform would involve four steps:


  1. Make arbitration mandatory before allowing a lawsuit to be
    filed., with a panel of three arbitrators including at least one
    doctor, with the parties splitting the arbitrator's fees . If
    either party appeals the arbitrators' award by filing a lawsuit,
    they will pay all costs, including attorneys' fees, if the result of
    the lawsuit does not improve their position over the arbitrators'
    decision. This is a modification of the “loser pays” proposal,
    and a system that is currently in use in some cases where there is
    mandatory arbitration.


  2. Do not allow hired experts – use only court-appointed
    experts in both trials and arbitrations. One can hire an “expert”
    in virtually any field to testify to whatever is needed, which is
    why “esperts” are known as “hired guns”, and/or “whores”
    in the legal profession.


  3. Establish regional boards to determine the “standard of
    care” in each medical specialty, especially regarding the
    diagnostic tests that are called for in a particular situation. In
    recent studies, more than 90 percent of physicians reported
    practicing positive defensive medicine in the past 12 months;
    unnecessary imaging tests accounted for 43 percent of these actions.
    More than 92 percent of surgeons reported ordering unnecessary tests
    to protect themselves.
    http://www.aaos.org/news/aaosnow/dec10/advocacy2.asp
    In another study it was estimated that 35% of all diagnostic tests
    were performed for the physician's protection against possible
    malpractice actions. This step, coupled with step 2, should greatly
    reduce the amount of defensive medicine that doctors feel they need
    to protect themselves.


  4. Limit awards to actual medical costs incurred and financial
    losses such as lost income. Limit awards for “general damages”
    for pain and suffering and do not allow claims for punitive damages
    except in the most egregious cases, if at all.


The foregoing steps will have three effects – first they should
greatly reduce the cost of medical malpractice insurance by reducing
the amounts of awards; second, they should reduce the amount of
defensive medicine being practiced; finally, they should greatly
reduce the cost of litigation and the filing of frivolous lawsuits.
It should be noted that these tort reforms should be done at the
state level – perhaps a “Model Medical Malpractice Reform Act”
could be drafted and recommended to the states for adoption.


Next would be Health Care Insurance reform, which could be done at
the federal level for insurance companies that offer insurance
“interstate,” giving Congress authority to regulate under the
commerce clause.


First, all states should allow and encourage the greatest amount
of competition possible. Second, insurance companies selling
policies interstate should be allowed to offer all levels of health
care coverage, from bare-bones to the so-called “Cadillac” plans,
any level of coverage that the customer would bargain for. For
example, insurance companies should not be forced to take on insureds
with “pre-existing” conditions. That isn't insurance, that's
charity, simply shifting the cost for one patient's treatment to the
other insureds. They also should not be required to cover “children”
until they are 26 years old, unless that is coverage the insured
bargains for. A “bare-bones” policy would include higher
deductibles and co-pays, and provide for “catastrophic” coverage
for serious conditions, and should be much more affordable than an
all-inclusive policy. True competition in health insurance with
fewer government mandates should greatly reduce the cost.


One way to handle the problem of “pre-existing conditions” is
to create a pool (at the state level), similar to the “assigned
risk” pools for automobile policies, where all insurance companies
doing business in the state could be “assigned” individuals with
pre-existing conditions on a pro-rata basis. A child born with a
condition would come under the parents' policy unless there is a
specific exclusion – something the insured could bargain for if
they are beyond child-bearing age and wish to save on their premiums.


I am certain there are many other areas to be considered, but I
believe that reform along the lines I've suggested would result in
significant savings and a lowering of the costs of health care as
well as the cost of health care insurance, with a minimum of
intrusion on individual rights.

I welcome any comments and suggestions!

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  • charles_1 2012/06/26 00:56:00
    charles_1
    +8
    How about medical care isn't interstate commerce and the federal government stay totally out of it. The state's should handle it.

    And even that should be limited to just catastrophic coverage. ie: A state plan to cover people for major illnesses aimed at preventing medical bankruptcies. Leave everyday coverage to the individual. At some point people need to take care of themselves. And everyday care is a fair place to draw the line.

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  • Quazimoto 2012/07/06 14:24:22
    Quazimoto
    +1
    I know of no-one personally who is complaining about the health care system as it is now.
    The only people I hear complaining is the power hungry politicians.
  • Ken Quazimoto 2012/07/07 05:34:12
    Ken
    I hear the lies coming from the politicians eager for the power-grab that is "universal healthcare," saying that the U.S. has the most expensive health care in the world and the worst - or if not the worst, way down on the list. That is a bald-faced lie. By any meaningful measure the U.S. has the best health care in the world. Our cancer and heart problem survival rates are the best in the world, and our infant mortality rate, when the same standards for measuring it are applied, is also right at the top of the list. What they base their claims on is our mortality rate, which has little to do with health care and everything to do with life styles. For example, America is much larger than any European country, our states are larger than most European nations, and we drive greater distances and have more deaths by accident. We also have some cities, largely governed by Democrats, with high murder rates - e.g. Detroit, Chicago and Washington, D.C. Those factors give us a worse mortality rate than other nations, not our health care quality.
  • Quazimoto Ken 2012/07/20 19:00:31
    Quazimoto
    +1
    Thanks for the facts brother. Something the media is lacking in every way.
  • Claybern 2012/06/28 03:53:40
    Claybern
    +1
    Just leave it just the way it has been. Obamacare sucks.
  • Old Poet 2012/06/27 23:39:48
    Old Poet
    +1
    SANITY
  • Chef Bunyan 2012/06/27 07:08:27
    Chef Bunyan
    +1
    How 'bout we let the SCOTUS publish their decision first!
  • Ken Chef Bu... 2012/06/27 15:09:43
    Ken
    "What Do We Replace Obamacare With if It's Overturned?"

    Apparently you missed the word "if" in the title of this blog.
  • Chef Bu... Ken 2012/06/28 02:15:29
    Chef Bunyan
    I reinterate! There has been know decision published either way yet. Why start speculating until we know what the decision is? I thought they would back SB1070 all the way. They didn't, so now nobody has a clue what they're gonna do here!
  • Ken Chef Bu... 2012/06/28 05:02:05
    Ken
    They did uphold the major part of the Arizona law, the part everyone was complaining about, by a unanimous 8-9 vote.

    "And here the government is saying that the Federal Government has a duty to tell the individual citizen that it must act, and that is different from what we have in previous cases and that changes the relationship of the Federal Government to the individual in the very fundamental way". Justice Kennedy

    When the man known as the "swing vote" says that the Obamacare mandate "changes the relationship of the Federal Government to the individual in the very fundamental way," it's a pretty good bet that at least the mandate will be struck down. Do you think it's not a good idea to plan ahead? Besides, this is a forum for discussions, a place to post ideas. You don't need to agree with all of them but there is no reason not to discuss the possibility. We'll know in less than 12 hours.
  • Chef Bu... Ken 2012/06/28 08:06:49
    Chef Bunyan
    +1
    I'm for waiting to see just what we're gonna be dealing with first!
  • Ken Chef Bu... 2012/06/28 21:53:22
    Ken
    As it turns out you were right. The "swing" vote, Kennedy, voted to throw it out and the Chief Justice, Roberts, voted with the liberals on the court.
  • Chef Bu... Ken 2012/06/29 05:42:57
    Chef Bunyan
    +1
    I ain't happy about it! Now it's imperative we get behind Romney, like him or not, and every other conservative Republican candidate to swing the balance of power to the right, so we can get this travesty repealed!
  • Ken Chef Bu... 2012/06/29 21:41:41
    Ken
    You and me both. As bad as having Obamacare still in effect is, even worse is the precedent the opinion set. From now on the power of the federal government is literally unbridled, so long as they couch anything they want to do, and any "fines" they want to impose, as "taxes."

    If we get rid of Obama and maintain the House Obamacare can be thwarted if not repealed. We need at least 60 senators who are willing to repeal it though, while a simple House majority can refuse to fund it and a Republican president can refuse to implement it without the necessary funding for the 159 boards and agencies it would create.
  • Chef Bu... Ken 2012/06/30 07:35:24
    Chef Bunyan
    +1
    That's why we need a GOP majority in the Senate as well, because the damn Democommies will stonewall it. I WANT IT GONE!!
  • Claybern Ken 2012/06/28 03:58:49
    Claybern
    +1
    IF is a big word. Let's hope it sticks with Obamacare being overturned.
  • Andrew 2012/06/27 05:45:22
    Andrew
    +1
    We replace with a better healthcare that's what.
  • Claybern Andrew 2012/06/28 04:00:22
    Claybern
    +1
    Someone smarter then Obummer to figure it out.
  • Andrew Claybern 2012/07/02 22:38:17
  • ETpro 2012/06/27 00:42:45
    ETpro
    +1
    It will have to be a strong public option or best, Medicare for everyone. Only that will bring costs down. If the individual mandate is struck down and other portions of the act that people like, like no preexisting conditions and no cancellation when you get sick, then premiums will skyrocket and the system will eventually collapse under its own weight of corporate greed.
  • Alvin ETpro 2012/06/27 00:53:29
    Alvin
    Which it is on its way to happening even as we speak. I make this comment as someone in the health care field watching premiums go up, co-payments go up and more and more necessary services denied by people reading off a list with no medical training whatsoever.
  • Ken ETpro 2012/06/27 15:21:57
    Ken
    What do you think "Medicare for everyone" will cost? The government is "stiffing" doctors who take Medicare patients already, and many won't even take Medicare patients -- the system is still going broke and you want a "single-payer" system? Did you know that 45% of practicing physicians have said they will consider quitting their practices if Obamacare goes into effect? Add 30,000,000 newly insured individuals and take away even 20% of the physicians and we will have rationing like you can't imagine. Even without any doctors dropping out there would be rationing. How many bright young men and women would want to go into medicine only to be a government employee? How many would make the sacrifice of seven years of their lives, plus internships, to work within a bureaucracy?

    Laws already exist that prevent insurance companies from canceling you when you get sick and they are stringently enforced by most state insurance commissioners. Requiring an insurance company to cover a preexisting condition isn't "insurance" at all, it's a giveaway. Can you drive around with no insurance on your automobile, have and accident and then run to Allstate and get them to pay for the repairs? Insurance is a bet between the insurance company and the insured - the insured is betting he will...

    What do you think "Medicare for everyone" will cost? The government is "stiffing" doctors who take Medicare patients already, and many won't even take Medicare patients -- the system is still going broke and you want a "single-payer" system? Did you know that 45% of practicing physicians have said they will consider quitting their practices if Obamacare goes into effect? Add 30,000,000 newly insured individuals and take away even 20% of the physicians and we will have rationing like you can't imagine. Even without any doctors dropping out there would be rationing. How many bright young men and women would want to go into medicine only to be a government employee? How many would make the sacrifice of seven years of their lives, plus internships, to work within a bureaucracy?

    Laws already exist that prevent insurance companies from canceling you when you get sick and they are stringently enforced by most state insurance commissioners. Requiring an insurance company to cover a preexisting condition isn't "insurance" at all, it's a giveaway. Can you drive around with no insurance on your automobile, have and accident and then run to Allstate and get them to pay for the repairs? Insurance is a bet between the insurance company and the insured - the insured is betting he will get ill, the insurance company is betting he won't.

    Insofar as the system eventually collapsing under its own weight of corporate greed, spoken like a true Marxist. If there is true competition and the insureds have the right to bargain for the level of coverage they want, the cost will come down. Lasik surgery is one example of what competition does to prices when there isn't a third party paying. It was prohibitively expensive when it first came out but competition has driven the price way down.
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  • cynsity 2012/06/27 00:30:31
    cynsity
    +1
    Absolutly TORT reform. This has to be a number one remake, and then I think if we are going to keep the current tax system we need to make it possible for hospitals and clinks to reduce the tax they pay for their equipment. Of course FAIR TAX would eleminate almost ALL taxes the medical proffession has to pay and thus lower teh cost of treatment
  • 4dc 2012/06/27 00:01:55
    4dc
    +1
    sanity
  • none 2012/06/26 17:10:07
    none
    +1
    To start with Tort Reform and buying insurance over state lines would be a great place to start, after that I'm sure some good plan can be put together but this time I want the fools in Congress to read and understand the bill first instead of being stupid enough to vote for it to see what's in it. Thanks Nancy, you blithering idiot, I don't know who was the more stupid, you for coming up with that idiotic statement or Congress for being foolish enough to do what you asked.
  • Jim none 2012/06/26 21:22:43
    Jim
    +2
    Also, allow corporations, companies and individuals to shop in other states for healthcare plans. This alone would bring down costs. Competition lowers prices. Also base premiums on your total income.
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/06/26 15:56:34
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    Tort reform, which was taken off the table by Obama in payback for the support of the Trial Lawyers Association, must be implemented. Anyone who has taken medications for a long time has witnessed the rising costs. That is the result of lawyers getting rich from class action lawsuits. Anyone who has watched daytime television has seen the ads trawling for cases.
    Choice, which would give good doctors more income and drive truly bad doctors out of business, is essential. That should come with a crystal clear list of history, costs for services and more. One of the things that drives me batty is to go to the doctor for 15 minutes and then get a bill for $200 for lab fees. Doctors have no clue what these things costs and often order them without consideration for the patient's ability to pay.
    Portability. I think we need insurance that will go beyond state lines to increase competition and keep costs reasonable across the nation.
    PreExisting Conditions. If a person has been insured and seeks to change companies, there should be no penalty for this. But people cannot for example, get insurance after the fact which is what obamacare seeks to do.
    High Risk Pools. When you include people that have chronic disease, drug abuse or alcohol abuse histories in the general pool it raises the...
    Tort reform, which was taken off the table by Obama in payback for the support of the Trial Lawyers Association, must be implemented. Anyone who has taken medications for a long time has witnessed the rising costs. That is the result of lawyers getting rich from class action lawsuits. Anyone who has watched daytime television has seen the ads trawling for cases.
    Choice, which would give good doctors more income and drive truly bad doctors out of business, is essential. That should come with a crystal clear list of history, costs for services and more. One of the things that drives me batty is to go to the doctor for 15 minutes and then get a bill for $200 for lab fees. Doctors have no clue what these things costs and often order them without consideration for the patient's ability to pay.
    Portability. I think we need insurance that will go beyond state lines to increase competition and keep costs reasonable across the nation.
    PreExisting Conditions. If a person has been insured and seeks to change companies, there should be no penalty for this. But people cannot for example, get insurance after the fact which is what obamacare seeks to do.
    High Risk Pools. When you include people that have chronic disease, drug abuse or alcohol abuse histories in the general pool it raises the costs for everyone and doesn't significantly lower the cost for the high risk recipient. Why should a woman over age 50 pay for child birth insurance or medication for male impotence? Yet that is what the Obamacare bill will do and it will only increase costs as it has already proven the last two year.
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  • Ken TruBluT... 2012/06/26 18:10:57
    Ken
    +1
    I agree on all points! When I go to a supermarket and see people who are so overweight (and I mean 300+ pounders!) that they are riding powered carts through the aisles and picking every sugar and fat-laden product there is off the shelves, I cringe at the thought of sharing in the cost of their health insurance. Same when I see life-long smokers with COPD so bad they are walking (or riding) around with a nasal cannula to give them oxygen. There should be a price for making poor choices and it shouldn't be borne by the public at large.
  • TruBluT... Ken 2012/06/26 19:01:45
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    And when I see those same people check out with their Lone Star cards (food stamps) and then pull out a wad of cash for beer and cigarettes it is all I can do to keep my mouth shut.
  • Jim Ken 2012/06/26 20:46:20
    Jim
    +1
    Be careful how you speak. Just because a person is overweight doesn't mean that is why they are rising in a cart. Until you have walked in their shoes, keep your trap shut. Not everything is cut and dried as the eye sees. I'm positive we can find fault in you.
  • Roger 2012/06/26 15:53:31
    Roger
    +1
    Nothing we are already almost bankrupt thanks to obumhole
  • Evan 2012/06/26 14:46:20
    Evan
    It won't be overturned. Say Romney becomes President: He wants to turn Health Care over to the STATES......as in HIS state....which the FEDERAL mess is based on, according to BHO....whose credibiity is somewhat questionable.
  • Jim Evan 2012/06/26 20:47:40
    Jim
    +1
    Obama's nose is longer than Pinochio's nose ever was.
  • Tominator 2012/06/26 13:07:24 (edited)
    Tominator
    +3
    Conservatives submitted many steps that can be taken to Obama when they met on this issue like tort reform, business across state lines, health savings accounts etc etc and were rejected across the board. There are simple, LOW COST measures that will work. There is NO situation where we need a 3K page boondoggle of govt control over ANY sector of our economy.
  • Ken Tominator 2012/06/26 18:14:00
    Ken
    Correct! Anyone who tells you that a "health care program" that creates 194 new federal boards and agencies, and brings 30 million previously uninsured under coverage, can actually save money is either a liar or a lunatic!
  • Jim Ken 2012/06/26 20:54:30
    Jim
    +1
    Obamanation is both.
  • Gordon 2012/06/26 11:56:50
    Gordon
    We should pattern our national health care system after the French model. No insurance companies; they eat up 30% to 70% of our healthcare money. The French get better healthcare at much less money than we do in the USA. It is considered the finest healthcare system for any large country. French healthcare
  • Jim Gordon 2012/06/26 20:56:20
    Jim
    +1
    So, explain exactly what the French healthcare plan is. Two charts don't mean a thing.
  • Gordon Jim 2012/06/26 21:22:49
    Gordon
    It is a universal healthcare plan that has eliminated insurance companies that consume a huge % of our money with zero services to the sick. They have better trained emergency service crews (ambulances) that can treat many patients on the spot, thus lowing hospital costs. Doctors and nurses earn good livings in France, but not several hundred thousand $$ or even millions that some American doctors rake in. That also reduces costs.

    Think on just one major healthcare cost in the USA, which is health insurance. If just insurance companies consume 35% of your health care costs - do away with them and you've saved bundles of money.

    Plus, if we go with a nationwide heath care system - we don't need insurance companies. But, American politicians and their parties are given millions or more by these vary companies. So, our greedy and self serving politicians want that money for their own ends.

    I worked for 2 French companies, and their healthcare puts our North American healthcare to shame. How Sad!
  • DuncanONeil 2012/06/26 10:57:44
    DuncanONeil
    +1
    Reasoned and reasonable, actual, reforms.
  • Jim DuncanO... 2012/06/26 20:57:50
    Jim
    What are the reforms? All I see are two charts that give no real information.

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