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  • +2 Dave August 20, 2009 17:59:38
    Dave
    Feel free to copy it and send it around to our other representatives.

    July 23, 2009

    Senator Bayh:

    As a practicing physician, I have major concerns with the healthcare bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient physician relationship.
    The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a healthcare system that works for all.

    Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our healthcare system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed. I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

    Page 22: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!

    Page 30 Sec 123: - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

    Page 29 lines 4-16: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Page 42l: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

    Page 50 Section 152: HC will be provided ...
    Feel free to copy it and send it around to our other representatives.

    July 23, 2009

    Senator Bayh:

    As a practicing physician, I have major concerns with the healthcare bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient physician relationship.
    The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a healthcare system that works for all.

    Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our healthcare system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed. I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

    Page 22: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!

    Page 30 Sec 123: - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

    Page 29 lines 4-16: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Page 42l: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

    Page 50 Section 152: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

    Page 58: Govt will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID Health card will be issued!

    Page 59 lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer.

    Page 65 Sec 164: a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

    Page 84 Sec 203: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.

    Page 85 Line 7: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

    Page 91 Lines 4-7: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation: illegal aliens.

    Page 95 Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

    Page 85 Line 7: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed.

    Page 102 Lines 12-18: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

    Page 124 lines 24-25: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.

    Page 127 Lines 1-16: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (salary)

    Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!

    Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

    Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

    Page 150 Lines 9-13: Business's with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

    Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

    Page 170 Lines 1-3: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

    Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.

    Page 203 Line 14-15: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that!

    Page 239 Line 14-24: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.

    Page 241 Line 6-8: Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same!

    Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctor's time, profession, judgment etc.

    Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

    Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

    Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

    Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.

    Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.

    Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!

    Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

    Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can you say ACORN?!!

    Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

    Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

    Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people! Unbelievable!

    Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy - Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

    Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.

    Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

    Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)

    Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has say in how your life ends.

    Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

    Page 429 Lines 10-12: "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!

    Page 429 Lines 13-25: The Govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

    Page 430 Lines 11-15: Govt decides what level of treatment you will have at end of life!

    Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non-profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

    Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. A monthly payment to ACORN?

    Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy means they will insert Govt into your marriage.

    Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

    Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.

    Furthermore, if you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor/patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.

    Respectfully,



    Stephen E. Fraser, MD
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  • Ryoka September 23, 2009 20:46:31
    Ryoka
    This is a very interesting article, lately I have heard about this health care issue from my friends and other people.
  • MUGEN :... Ryoka September 23, 2009 20:51:47
    MUGEN ::: 無限
    ...ok?

    ever watch tv?
  • Ryoka MUGEN :... October 10, 2009 05:40:29
    Ryoka
    Sometimes, but I mostly do other things besides watching TV. Playing video and practicing on piano or drawing pictures.
  • MUGEN :... Ryoka October 10, 2009 17:45:21
    MUGEN ::: 無限
    watch some CNN or listen to some NPR it's good for you.
  • johnperna August 23, 2009 22:18:34
    johnperna
    Description of Straw Man fallacy

    The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores the actual opposing argument and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated, irrelevant, or misrepresented version of that position. A "Straw Man Argument" is a misrepresentation of the opposing view, set up in such a way that it is easy to demolish. This is meant to bring the opponent's position into disrepute, by ascribing to him positions that he never endorsed, or some minor point that is not really at issue. The intention is to avoid having to address the real arguments. A person creates a Straw Man as an easy opponent, because he is not capable of dealing with the issue that actually WAS presented. The person creating a Straw Man hopes to burden his opponent with an unpopular, or indefensible, position. The use of this tactic is actually an admission of defeat on the question that was actually presented, and was evaded.
  • ducdodger August 20, 2009 20:41:46
    ducdodger
    The problem with CNN and the rest of the liberal media is that they think the average american is to stupid to pick up the bill and read it. Fortunitely we areading is which is more than i can say for the congress and they are very afraid that the american people are catching on to what raelly going on in congress.
  • Skurzilla August 20, 2009 18:24:04
    Skurzilla
    One thing to say. Take the healthcare bill hr3200 and prove to the American people that they are spreading false rumors. Problem is that most Americans can think 3 steps ahead on this thing. We know these are not false rumors.
  • Awake August 20, 2009 18:01:07
    Awake
    This from the health reform: White House.
    8 ways reform provides security and stability to those with or without coverage

    Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.
    Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays: Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.
    Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.
    Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.
    Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.
    Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.
    Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.
    Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.
  • +2
    Dave August 20, 2009 17:59:38
    Dave
    Feel free to copy it and send it around to our other representatives.

    July 23, 2009

    Senator Bayh:

    As a practicing physician, I have major concerns with the healthcare bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient physician relationship.
    The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a healthcare system that works for all.

    Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our healthcare system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed. I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

    Page 22: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!

    Page 30 Sec 123: - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

    Page 29 lines 4-16: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Page 42l: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

    Page 50 Section 152: HC will be provided ...
    Feel free to copy it and send it around to our other representatives.

    July 23, 2009

    Senator Bayh:

    As a practicing physician, I have major concerns with the healthcare bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient physician relationship.
    The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a healthcare system that works for all.

    Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our healthcare system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed. I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

    Page 22: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!

    Page 30 Sec 123: - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

    Page 29 lines 4-16: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

    Page 42l: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

    Page 50 Section 152: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

    Page 58: Govt will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a National ID Health card will be issued!

    Page 59 lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer.

    Page 65 Sec 164: a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

    Page 84 Sec 203: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.

    Page 85 Line 7: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

    Page 91 Lines 4-7: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation: illegal aliens.

    Page 95 Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

    Page 85 Line 7: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed.

    Page 102 Lines 12-18: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

    Page 124 lines 24-25: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.

    Page 127 Lines 1-16: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (salary)

    Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!

    Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

    Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

    Page 150 Lines 9-13: Business's with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

    Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

    Page 170 Lines 1-3: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

    Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.

    Page 203 Line 14-15: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that!

    Page 239 Line 14-24: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.

    Page 241 Line 6-8: Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same!

    Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctor's time, profession, judgment etc.

    Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

    Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

    Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

    Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.

    Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.

    Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!

    Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

    Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can you say ACORN?!!

    Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

    Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

    Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people! Unbelievable!

    Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy - Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

    Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.

    Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

    Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)

    Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has say in how your life ends.

    Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

    Page 429 Lines 10-12: "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!

    Page 429 Lines 13-25: The Govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

    Page 430 Lines 11-15: Govt decides what level of treatment you will have at end of life!

    Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non-profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

    Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. A monthly payment to ACORN?

    Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy means they will insert Govt into your marriage.

    Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

    Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.

    Furthermore, if you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor/patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.

    Respectfully,



    Stephen E. Fraser, MD
    (more)
  • +2
    MUGEN :... Dave August 20, 2009 18:03:29
    MUGEN ::: 無限
    There is a lot of BS in that letter,

    One of many: HC Will be provided to illegal.

    What a utter lie. It has been said over and over that is not true. Howevere when someone goes to emergency room (legal or Illegal) we, like every other civilized country, provide the best we can to save their life.
  • +1
    Dave MUGEN :... August 20, 2009 18:24:53
    Dave
    Here read HR 3200 for yourself.
    http://www.opencongress.org/b...
  • +1
    Skurzilla MUGEN :... August 20, 2009 18:27:08
    Skurzilla
    It has been said over and over that it is true. There is no provision in the bill for illegal aliens... there also is no exclusion. Current law automatically includes a group when it is not excluded. Congress knows this.. that's why they didn't include anything about illegals. By not including them... they are automatically covered by this bill. Don't believe the propaganda out there guy.
  • +2
    Skurzilla Dave August 20, 2009 18:25:20
    Skurzilla
    Great letter!!!
  • +1
    Awake August 20, 2009 17:59:15
    Awake
    Our problem with the healthcare is caused by over ambitious/greeded doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. Doctors only spent five minutes with each patient and they became pill pushers and they charged the insurance companies or patient the full hour $150 +. Doctors in this country see 10 patients an hour when in other countries they see 3 patients because they are regulated. Doctors just listen to you for 2 minutes and ordered multiple exams and give you prescriptions. There is not quality care as in England where doctors performed the vital signs exam and digital exam plus ask multiple questions to determine the health poblem. It is believe that hospitals give money to doctors who ordered more tests and drug companies also compensate them. In the other hand Hospitals overcharged patients and insurance companies. My spouse was 2 days at a hospital and they charged $43,800. The service was substandard, no towels, no grooming service no even a toothpaste or a comb. A pain killer was $ 55 -100 a tablet, they charged hundreds for an IV that he never had, etc. Nobody regulates their charges and there is a lot of fraud going on. Yes, lets regulate these thieves. Insurance companies are increasing the premiums to employees to $ 400 a month because the doctors and hospita...
    Our problem with the healthcare is caused by over ambitious/greeded doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. Doctors only spent five minutes with each patient and they became pill pushers and they charged the insurance companies or patient the full hour $150 +. Doctors in this country see 10 patients an hour when in other countries they see 3 patients because they are regulated. Doctors just listen to you for 2 minutes and ordered multiple exams and give you prescriptions. There is not quality care as in England where doctors performed the vital signs exam and digital exam plus ask multiple questions to determine the health poblem. It is believe that hospitals give money to doctors who ordered more tests and drug companies also compensate them. In the other hand Hospitals overcharged patients and insurance companies. My spouse was 2 days at a hospital and they charged $43,800. The service was substandard, no towels, no grooming service no even a toothpaste or a comb. A pain killer was $ 55 -100 a tablet, they charged hundreds for an IV that he never had, etc. Nobody regulates their charges and there is a lot of fraud going on. Yes, lets regulate these thieves. Insurance companies are increasing the premiums to employees to $ 400 a month because the doctors and hospitals are out of control charging huge amounts for poor (driving -in) service. Somebody has to stop this. Medications are so high that we seniors cannot afford them. Politicians do not care as they get free medical coverage and huge salaries, but many of us cannot afford to go to the doctor or pay for medications. Doctors value their qualifications by telling us how many houses they owned. Healing is not longer their goal, but charging more and increasing revenues.
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  • Skurzilla Awake August 20, 2009 18:31:11 (edited)
    Skurzilla
    Good points. I heard a good opinion on this yesterday. Because of insurance companies regulating what doctors and hospitals get paid for certain treatment... we have NO IDEA what any of these procedures are actually worth. The same would be true if the government ran healthcare. This is 1/6th of our economy, but it isn't run by simple supply and demand economics. They get paid what the insurance company says they will get paid.
    I personally think that we need to expand the HSA program. This is a system that would put the healthcare decision power in the peoples hands... and restore simple supply and demand economics to healthcare. We already have a huge shortage of doctors and nurses... maybe this is partly due to the insurance companies meddling.
  • +1
    pixieGAL August 20, 2009 17:54:53
    pixieGAL
    I was discussing this with my brother last night. It feels like the 2008 elections all over again.
  • +2
    Dangerous Dave August 20, 2009 17:31:14
    Dangerous Dave
    Of course! Rumors will come out of angry people who say "heil hitler" to get the libs mad.
  • johnperna Dangero... August 23, 2009 22:34:20
    johnperna
    H1N1 Vaccine Patent Filed Before the Virus Was Spread!
    http://targetfreedom.typepad....

    HERE IS THE "SMOKING GUN" ON THE PHONEY FLU SCARE:
    Kistner Pharm filed the patent of H1N1 vaccine on 28 AUG 2008 before the virus was spread!

    This is the US Patent office document:
    Go to Page 7 #0056 and see for yourself!
    http://www.theoneclickgroup.c...
    How could the vaccine come before the virus?
    Don’t believe me, look it up for yourself!
    Repost and email everywhere!

    Patent Evidence That The ‘Swine Flu’ Pandemic Is Man-Made
    http://nbgazette.com/index.ph...

    QUESTION:
    What is the difference between a needle shot in your arm and a bullet shot through your brain?
    ANSWER:
    With a bullet shot through your brain, your death will be quick and painless.
    With a needle shot in your arm, your death will be slow, painful, and very profitable for drug companies. More people have died from the vaccination than from swine flu.

    Refuse and Resist Mandatory Flu Vaccines
    http://targetfreedom.typepad....

    Polio vaccine was contaminated with cancer causing SV40 monkey virus

    Cancer-causing monkey SV40 virus contaminated POLIO vaccine
    http://www.vaccinetruth.org/p...
    Eventually, sixty different labs confirmed the results.

    Polio Vaccine Contaminated With Cancer Given to Millions of Am...
    H1N1 Vaccine Patent Filed Before the Virus Was Spread!
    http://targetfreedom.typepad....

    HERE IS THE "SMOKING GUN" ON THE PHONEY FLU SCARE:
    Kistner Pharm filed the patent of H1N1 vaccine on 28 AUG 2008 before the virus was spread!

    This is the US Patent office document:
    Go to Page 7 #0056 and see for yourself!
    http://www.theoneclickgroup.c...
    How could the vaccine come before the virus?
    Don’t believe me, look it up for yourself!
    Repost and email everywhere!

    Patent Evidence That The ‘Swine Flu’ Pandemic Is Man-Made
    http://nbgazette.com/index.ph...

    QUESTION:
    What is the difference between a needle shot in your arm and a bullet shot through your brain?
    ANSWER:
    With a bullet shot through your brain, your death will be quick and painless.
    With a needle shot in your arm, your death will be slow, painful, and very profitable for drug companies. More people have died from the vaccination than from swine flu.

    Refuse and Resist Mandatory Flu Vaccines
    http://targetfreedom.typepad....

    Polio vaccine was contaminated with cancer causing SV40 monkey virus

    Cancer-causing monkey SV40 virus contaminated POLIO vaccine
    http://www.vaccinetruth.org/p...
    Eventually, sixty different labs confirmed the results.

    Polio Vaccine Contaminated With Cancer Given to Millions of Americans
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/a...

    http://www.sv40foundation.org/

    Vaccine scandal revives cancer fear
    http://www.newscientist.com/a...

    AIDS was spread by Small Pox vaccination ADMINISTERED BY The United Nations.
    Inside the United Nations (Paperback) by Steve Bonta
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...
    http://www.wanttoknow.info/87...
    Aids as a Weapon of War
    http://www.biblebelievers.org...

    Military to administer vaccinations!
    Total control of America about to occur!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Military may backup FEMA for pandemic quarantines and Forced vaccinations
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    You will have to fight your own Army or die from vaccination

    The United Nations has published its goal of reducing the world's population:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/853...

    Here is the Obama Propaganda on the Depopulation Plan:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Obama Depopulation Policy Exposed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    http://washingtontimes.com/ne...

    The Myth of Over-population (Paperback) by Rousas John Rushdoony
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...
    Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...

    There are two above ground biological warfare research facilities in the world:
    One is at Ft. Dietrich, Maryland. The other is at Sverdlosk, Russia.
    Both of these are supervised by the United Nations.

    United Nations Conspiracy by Robert W. Lee
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...
    http://www.thepetitionsite.co...
    Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak
    http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    Authorities may require the vaccine for school attendance, but you should be able to avoid it like any other vaccine.

    Pentagon video on national guard, HS prep for H1N1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    "Physicians Warranty of Vaccine Saftey" link for what it's worth

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/bl...

    Tell AARP Socialist Health Care Betrays Seniors

    http://targetfreedom.typepad....

    Global Tyranny...Step by Step: The United Nations and the Emerging New World Order (Paperback) by William F. Jasper
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...
    United Nations Exposed - Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    The United Nations Exposed (Paperback) by William F. Jasper
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...
    National Health Care will require a Real ID card
    http://www.unrfid.com/ID/
    ===
    Vaccine Form to give to Doctor

    Want assurances from your pediatrician about vaccines? Here's a form designed by Ken Anderson you can give them to fill out -- although there is no physician anywhere on earth who will sign it. (American, of course, but could easily be converted to the UK) This does not apply to freeborn children as they are not wards of the state! www.thinkfree.ca

    Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety

    I (Physician's name, degree)______________________... _____ am a physician licensed to practice medicine in the State of ________________. My State license number is _______________ , and my DEA number is _______________. My medical specialty is ________________________

    I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for or administer to my patients. In the case of (Patient's name) ___________________________ , age _________ , whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that justify the recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will protect against them:
    Risk Factor _____________________________...
    Vaccination _____________________________...
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    Vaccination _____________________________...
    Risk Factor _____________________________...
    Vaccination _____________________________...
    Risk Factor _____________________________...
    Vaccination _____________________________...
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    Vaccination _____________________________...

    I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

    * aluminum hydroxide
    * aluminum phosphate
    * ammonium sulfate
    * amphotericin B
    * animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
    * dog kidney, monkey kidney,
    * chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
    * calf (bovine) serum
    * betapropiolactone
    * fetal bovine serum
    * formaldehyde
    * formalin
    * gelatin
    * glycerol
    * human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
    * hydrolized gelatin
    * mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
    * monosodium glutamate (MSG)
    * neomycin
    * neomycin sulfate
    * phenol red indicator
    * phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    * potassium diphosphate
    * potassium monophosphate
    * polymyxin B
    * polysorbate 20
    * polysorbate 80
    * porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
    * residual MRC5 proteins
    * sorbitol
    * tri(n)butylphosphate,
    * VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
    * washed sheep red blood

    and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. I have researched reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury thimerosol causes severe neurological and immunological damage, and find that they are not credible.

    I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40 (SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals. I hereby warrant that the vaccines I employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses. (Alternately, I hereby warrant that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no substantive risk to my patient.)

    I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (Patient's name) _______________ _______________________ do not contain any tissue from aborted human babies (also known as "fetuses").

    In order to protect my patient's well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants.

    STEPS TAKEN: _____________________________...
    _____________________________...
    _____________________________...
    _____________________________...

    I have personally investigated the reports made to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) and state that it is my professional opinion that the vaccines I am recommending are safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.

    The basis for my opinion are itemized on Exhibit A, attached hereto, -- "Physician's Basis for Professional Opinion of Vaccine Safety." (Please itemize each recommended vaccine separately along with the basis for arriving at the conclusion that the vaccine is safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.)

    The professional journal articles I have relied upon in the issuance of this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety are itemized on Exhibit B , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles in Support of Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety."

    The professional journal articles that I have read which contain opinions adverse to my opinion are itemized on Exhibit C , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles Contrary to Physician's Opinion of Vaccine Safety"

    The reasons for my determining that the articles in Exhibit C were invalid are delineated in Attachment D , attached hereto, -- "Physician's Reasons for Determining the Invalidity of Adverse Scientific Opinions."

    Hepatitis B

    I understand that 60 percent of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years. I understand that in 1996 only 54 cases of Hepatitis B were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 year age group. I understand that in the VAERS, there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 year age group, with 47 deaths reported.

    I understand that 50 percent of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after exposure. I understand that 30 percent will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime immunity. I understand that 20 percent will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95 percent will fully recover and have lifetime immunity.

    I understand that 5 percent of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic carriers of the disease. I understand that 75 percent of the chronic carriers will live with an asymptomatic infection and that only 25 percent of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection. The following scientific studies have been performed to demonstrate the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine in children under the age of 5 years.
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    I am aware of the fact that the Small Pox vaccine that was administered by the United Nations in Africa was later shown to have been contaminated with the HIV virus.

    In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have enumerated said non-vaccine measures on Exhibit D , attached hereto, "Non-vaccine Measures to Protect Against Risk Factors" I am issuing this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my professional capacity as the attending physician to (Patient's name) _____________________________... Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement in both my business and individual capacities and hereby waive any statutory, Common Law, Constitutional, UCC, international treaty, and any other legal immunities from liability lawsuits in the instant case. I issue this document of my own free will after consultation with competent legal counsel whose name is _____________________________, an attorney admitted to the Bar in the State of __________________ .
    _____________________________... (Name of Attending Physician)
    _____________________________... L.S. (Signature of Attending Physician)
    Signed on this _______ day of ______________ A.D. ________
    Witness: _______________________________ Date: _____________________
    Notary Public: ___________________________Date: ______________________


    CIA Assassinations & Depopulation Using Vaccinations:
    A Conspiracy Reality Underlies the Swine Flu Black Op

    Los Angeles--CIA assassinations and paramilitary operations secreted from congressional overseers and the American people have extended into the realm of swine flu bioterrorism and vaccinations for profitable depopulation according to medical journalist and CIA analyst, Dr. Leonard Horowitz.

    The CIA spent years advancing secret squads to blow things up and kill humans according to U.S. intelligence officials interviewed by Greg Miller of the Los Angeles Times. (July 16, 2009) What the Times failed to report was current connections between drug industrialists and CIA officials that best explain the mysterious emergence of the swine flu virus in Mexico, and the international media's curious response to the planned pandemic, according to Dr. Horowitz--a Harvard-trained investigator and award-winning author of several books on this subject.

    Current and former U.S. intelligence officials disclosed a broader effort than media coverage has portrayed, including black-ops about which congressional oversight committees and Americans knew nothing, the Times published.

    The "broader dimensions" of this program, Miller wrote, "may account for why some lawmakers, particularly Republicans, have been critical of CIA Director Leon E. Panetta's decision last month to kill" funding for the operation that trained America's deadliest assassins.

    Some house Democrats are calling for an investigation to help explain why top counter-terrorism officials, with close ties to Bush Administration Vice President, Dick Cheney, "saw a need for the CIA to develop its own elite paramilitary teams, rather than relying on U.S. military special operations troops."

    In particular, officials said, ambitions for the program expanded to include creating teams that were made up not only of CIA personnel, but counterparts from other countries, presumably Pakistan; and to be capable not just of killing high-value targets, but also executing raids and other operations to gather evidence and intelligence that might lead to" CIA-trained Holy War assassin, Osama bin Laden.

    In 1986, William Casey, CIA chief under Reagan, approved a Pakistani intelligence proposal to recruit Islamic fundamentalists worldwide to conduct covert operations. When the Pakistanis recruited, and the bin Ladens and Saudis financed, the Afghanistan black-operatives at that time, American officials, including previous CIA director, George H.W. Bush, "funneled more than $2 billion in guns and money" during the 1980s in the "largest covert action program since World War II," the Washington Post, reported (7/19/92).

    The CIA, often referred to as "the Company," maintained ties to wealthy financiers, including Carlyle Group investors Mohammed bin Laden and George H.W. Bush, co-investors in this mega defense contractor along with James Baker III, who oversaw the Florida vote recount in Bush, Jr's contested 2000 election. In addition, Donald Rumsfeld, Defense Secretary under Gerald Ford and George W. Bush, whose connections to the global drug-cartel include his launching of the Tamiflu-manufacturing company Gilead Sciences, conducted business dealings with Carlyle Group executive, Frank C. Carlucci.(JudicialWatch.org,1...

    In November 2005, George W. Bush urged Congress to pass $7.1 billion in emergency funding to prepare for the possible bird flu pandemic, of which one billion was solely dedicated to the purchase and distribution of Tamiflu.

    Earlier, in June 1996, Gilead launched its first commercial product, Vistide (cidofovir injection) for the treatment of cytomegalovirus (CMV) in AIDS patients. "If you want to know where the herpes virus pandemic mostly comes from," Dr. Horowitz wrote, "think of contaminated vaccines spread to produce cancer for profit by the Carlyle-CIA-backed cartel."

    Cytomegalovirus is one of three herpes type viruses, including herpes B, simian cytomegalo from monkeys used in vaccine development, and Epstein Barr, another vaccination infection.

    Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), now known to cause AIDS-like immune deficiency, and one of the three AIDS-linked cancers called lymphomas, was first cultured from a Burkitt's lymphoma cell line in 1964 that Dr. Horowitz traced to CIA-directed vaccine experiments conducted by the American biological weapons lab called Litton Bionetics. Bionetics operated in Maryland, Virginia, Eastern Zaire and Northwest Uganda during the 1960s according to National Cancer Institute documents discovered by Horowitz. The covert African operation was conducted under the supervision of Frank Carlucci.

    Carlucci has been a Managing Director of Carlyle since 1989 and its Chairman since 1993. Carlucci became the point man for CIA-directed "health care" programs in various parts of Africa during the early 1960s. He became the deputy director of the CIA in 1978, deputy secretary of defense in 1980, and national security adviser during the Iran-contra scandal. Carlucci also served as chief "political officer" in the African Congo's American Embassy at the time Burkett's lymphoma was allegedly discovered, and obviously distributed in this region of Africa by way of contaminated vaccines, according to substantial evidence compiled by Dr. Horowitz including an interview with one of the doctors engaged in the vaccination operation.

    All of this is published, and meticulously evidenced using reprinted scientific and government documents in Dr. Horowitz's best of three national bestselling books, Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola--Nature, Accident or Intentional? (Tetrahedron Press, 1998) Barack Obama's minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, recommended reading this book, in defense of harsh criticism he received for his sermon condemning the US Government for creating HIV. For those who do not believe our government would conduct such hideous atrocities, technically called genocide, Barack Obama disavowed his minister.

    Under CIA supervision and covert actions by government officials linked to Carlyle on behalf of the global petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartel, new diseases have emerged. Dr. Horowitz evidences these including Burkitt's lymphoma, nasopharyngeal carcinoma, infectious mononucleosis, AIDS and today, the circulating swine flu, and avian flu threats.

    While the Carlyle-Bush-Baker-Carlucci-R... connections are troubling enough in their own right, they look even worse when you consider how many different ways Carlyle is profiting from the war on terrorism and bioterrorism. Speaking in particular about Carlucci, and his three main partners at Carlyle, Dan Broidy, author of The Iron Triangle, an illuminating history of the Carlyle Group, wrote, "It's not an exaggeration to say that September 11" made these "Carlyle investors very, very rich men." This is also the case for Dick Cheney, tied to the Halliburton Co. that administers converted military bases to serve as quarantine camps planned by FEMA to be used this fall when the World Health Organization may call for such drastic measures.

    Recall also that Donald Rumsfeld was replaced as Defense Secretary because of his administration of the Iraqi war and human rights violations in torturing prisoners, state enemies, and suspected terrorists. "I pray this doesn't foreshadow how quarantined Americans who refuse vaccinations will be treated in these FEMA camps administered by Halliburton," Dr. Horowitz said.

    Alleging CIA operations to administer assassinations had been generally disappointing, according to the Los Angeles Times interviewed CIA spokesman, George Little, one wonders who was behind the suspicious deaths of John and Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Vince Foster, Democratic Senate candidate Mel Carnahan, who went on to win the race as a dead man against his rival John Ashcroft (whose campaign was largely funded by Enron, and who went on to become appointed the U.S. Attorney General); Democratic Senate incumbent Paul Wellstone, whose reelection would have shifted the entire balance of power in the Senate during pivotal Bush administration projects fundamental to where we are today regarding "national security," "biodefense," and forced vaccinations and quarantines impacting every American.

    "Keeping CIA activities like this secret is the biggest challenge," another former U.S. intelligence official told the LA Times.

    Most recently, the program's focus had shifted toward intelligence collection, officials said. According to past CIA Director, William Colby, since the end of the cold war, the primary function of The Company has been to act as industrial espionage agents on behalf of multi-national corporations, the largest financially engaged with Carlyle.

    In 2001, Dr. Horowitz exposed the anthrax mailings as sourcing from the CIA's "Project Clearvision." The anthrax was mailed to enemies of Carlyle, including democratic drug legislation opponents, Senators Patrick Leahy and Tom Dashle. The hyper-weaponized germ sourced from the Battelle Memorial Institute in West Jefferson, Ohio, under the direction of CIA-anthrax ace, William Patrick, III, who assayed the mailed virus's spreading capacity two years before the attacks. According to Dr. Horowitz, and many other experts, this was done to promote sales of Bayer's CIPRO; and stockpiles of BioPort, LLC's congressionally-certified deadly anthrax vaccine.

    US military leaders reported finding a BioPort annual prospectus in a cave allegedly used to shelter Osama bin Laden in 2002, probably because Carlyle clients, including Mohammad bin Laden, had invested in the company. Today, BioPort, renamed BioThrax, is allied with drug cartel giants Acambis, Sanofi Pasteur, and other companies that make money from people sustaining side effects from their drugs and vaccines; especially the ones exclusively stockpiled by our federal officials.

    Regarding company assassins carrying out close-range killings, a former CIA official told Greg Miller from the LA Times, "This is something they don't really have a capacity for."

    "But long-range killings through manufactured frights, forced vaccinations, mass quarantines, and compelled druggings," Dr. Horowitz wrote, "is obviously central to their genocidal operations on behalf of Carlyle and Halliburton investors."

    On July 16, 2009, it was announced that by fall, government health officials and social service workers will be canvassing every American household, carrying four required flu vaccines, that shall be given to those persuaded to take them. The campaign is mostly "targeting" children and the elderly.

    In response, there are now many reasonable, responsible, intelligent, and patriotic Americans, including many health professionals, who have decided to leave the United States before flu season.

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