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Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to Arizona, will it change the crazy birthers minds?

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HONOLULU (AP) — The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama's birth records to Arizona's elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent's name on its November ballot.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press in an email late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.

Hawaii — which has vouched for Obama's birth in the state several times as early as October 2008 — didn't bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett he had to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.

Wisch says Hawaii got what it needed, so it gave Bennett's office the verification.

It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy Bennett. Bennett spokesman Matthew Roberts said the office received the verification and planned to comment Wednesday.

Roberts did not say whether the information would end the flap with Obama's name on the ballot.

Bennett said during a radio interview earlier Tuesday that he had reworded his request to Hawaii and expected to get a response within two days.

The development came the same day Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio defended sending one of his deputies to Hawaii to accompany an official in his volunteer posse that is investigating Obama's birth certificate, despite earlier saying no taxpayer money was being spent on the probe.

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  • DS in Oak Ridge NC 2012/05/23 12:49:06 (edited)
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    DS in Oak Ridge NC
    +8
    Depends on what they based the claim of verification. A Certificate of Live Birth only means a child was presented for documentation, and are granted irrespective of the place (city or country) of birth. Hawaii has the means to put an end to it, but has been resisting. A real BC would do the trick, and if the BC states the father was African, not a US citizen, Obama is safer with a COLB that reveals less (potentially damaging) info.
    Besides, even Obama's publisher listed him as Kenyan for years and years without a request to correct. That makes Obama and his publisher the original Birthers, eh?

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  • Cat 1017 2012/05/23 22:22:55
    No
    Cat 1017
    NOt one iota...You can't cure crazy if they don't want to be cured....
  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/05/23 20:10:51
    Undecided
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +1
    No they haven't.
  • jgh57 2012/05/23 19:13:23
    No
    jgh57
    No People with mental delusions (Birthers) tend to hold those delusions no matter how much you try to show them reality.
  • Tasine 2012/05/23 19:11:57
    No
    Tasine
    +2
    Not knowing what the verification consists of, it's impossible to say if it is satisfactory to specialists in the field. If they find it satisfactory, then I would like an explanation why the forgeries, why the secrecy. What is wrong with this man that he cannot be straight with the American people who gave him the highest honor possible by electing him - and he treats Americans as trash as would any clod without once ounce of grace? What sickness leads a man to behave this way?

    At this point I don't even care if he has a valid birth certificate, or if he is LEGALLY an American. He isn't an American at heart, doesn't like America or Americans, is criminally jealous of financial success - and is clueless how it is obtained. Like any thief, he seems to think one gains financial success when he robs the public blind, such as he has done and will continue to do as long as we have to suffer his presence in office. If he gets away with all he is doing, I will never trust the US government again as long as I live because it is harsh only to kind and innocent people, but wears kid gloves when dealing with terrorists, criminals, and other cast-offs of society.
  • Mr.Steve 2012/05/23 18:12:20
  • Nestofa... Mr.Steve 2012/05/25 17:58:00
    Nestofasssps
    fraud? proof that would stand up in any court would be nice, but whine on...
  • Mr.Steve Nestofa... 2012/05/25 19:08:30
  • mac9 2012/05/23 14:19:20 (edited)
    Undecided
    mac9
    +3
    Too much cover too long to believe it's true. Obama is his own worst enemy. People won't make the same mistake twice and reelect him. After he is out of office much of his past will come to light.
  • keymanjim 2012/05/23 13:39:11 (edited)
    Undecided
    keymanjim
    +3
    So, they just verified a document that has been proven to be faked? Did the investigators actually see the document or did they just take his word for it?

    Entire religions have been built on such blind faith.



    verified document proven faked investigators document religions built blind faith
  • Tasine keymanjim 2012/05/23 19:13:47
    Tasine
    +3
    And the left vilifies those religions that accept word on faith. Amazing, isn't it, how their teeny minds work?
  • Schläue~© 2012/05/23 13:25:03 (edited)
    Undecided
    Schläue~©
    +6
    The only thing Bennett will get is another carefully crafted legalese bullsh!t statement that walks around what the meaning of the word 'verify', is

    It makes no difference how many times 'officials' in Hawaii claim they have 'seen' the document and it exists, how many times they claim to have sent a copy to the WH, it matters what's on the damn thing that keeps them from providing the actual paper document.

    It would take less than 24 hours to form an independent 6 person team to fly to Hawaii and recover 2 copies of the 'document'.
    2 members from the Senate, 2 members from the House of reps, and 2 private citizens who are sworn peace officers.

    All 6 would be present at the time both copies were scanned from the original that Hawaii claims to have and brought back to Washington where separate analysis for verification could be performed.

    At first glance, it would be obvious if the copies matched what was put on the official WH website and of course, if the information was consistent for him to legally hold the office according to the guidelines set forth in the Constitution.

    I'm sure enough taxpayers would gladly donate to a separate fund to cover all costs incurred. We would FINALLY have an answer to why this wasn't done 4 years ago.
  • Nestofa... Schläue~© 2012/05/23 13:27:43
    Nestofasssps
    yawwwwwwwn it was
  • Schläue~© Nestofa... 2012/05/23 13:40:04
    Schläue~©
    +4
    When?
    There has NEVER been a paper document provided to Congress, which is the body responsible for properly vetting all candidates, BEFORE an Official Certificate Of Nomination (OCON) is generated.
  • Nestofa... Schläue~© 2012/05/25 17:58:44
    Nestofasssps
    The FEC had one,
  • Schläue~© Nestofa... 2012/05/25 18:25:47
    Schläue~©
    Why would they even be involved?
    They rule over campaign finance law and have NOTHING to do with the proper vetting of candidates.
    That is solely the duty of Congress. Steeeeeeerike TWO.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/05/23 13:24:05
    They could show a video of his mother giving birth on Kilauea and they still ...
    Rebel Yell
    +1
    NO. That cannot happen when a person doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. So, they will bleat on and on about his Kenyan birth and even post some doctored up birth certificate they found on the net as " proof". They will moan about how he is a secret Muslim trying to become a dictator. Same old crapola. Over and over.

    Pity these people and be very grateful you are not like them.
  • Nestofa... Rebel Yell 2012/05/23 13:26:41
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    :) I do, every day of my life:)
  • Fallout 2012/05/23 13:22:17
    No
    Fallout
    What's a world without a few bananas?
  • Nestofa... Fallout 2012/05/23 13:24:43
    Nestofasssps
    +1
    I like bananas. Ive had it with morons tho
  • Fallout Nestofa... 2012/05/23 15:30:22
    Fallout
    I agree. I love bananas. Calling those morons bananas is a compliment.
  • Grabitz 2012/05/23 13:06:20
    No
    Grabitz
    +2
    Are you kidding ? Those people are out of their fricking minds . Maye if we can find a cure for the mentally ill .
  • Raymond Allamby 2012/05/23 13:01:42
    They could show a video of his mother giving birth on Kilauea and they still ...
    Raymond Allamby
    +4
    it's scary how these morons won't let it go.
  • R. 2012/05/23 12:50:44
    Undecided
    R.
    +3
    Why would you want to " change " their minds ? Who would you attempt
    to ridicule then ?
  • Nestofa... R. 2012/05/23 12:54:18
    Nestofasssps
    +2
    Im not wanting to change anything, they are ridiculing themselves without my help.
  • R. Nestofa... 2012/05/23 12:59:14 (edited)
    R.
    +2
    Hardly. Your question structure begs to differ.
  • Nestofa... R. 2012/05/23 13:14:16 (edited)
    Nestofasssps
    hmmmm where does it say I wish to change their minds
    I said WILL it change their minds, and my disbelief that the nonsensical " phrase" is just that....
    Im running on an hours sleep... whats your excuse?
  • R. Nestofa... 2012/05/23 21:10:27
    R.
    I don't use excuses.
    By posting this article you ask if this will do the trick and then you call
    those that want a certified birth certificate , crazy.
    " It " doesn't say, but you indicate that the same evidence that has been
    put forth this time ( colb ) may be able to accomplish what it has yet to
    be able to do. Unless you are not who you say you are , this is your
    posting.
    As for your lack of sleep, not my problem. You could sleep instead of
    posting " nonsensical phrases ", it would be MUCH better for your
    body and mind.
  • Nestofa... R. 2012/05/25 17:59:32
    Nestofasssps
    oh dear heavens, youve gone a long way to prove what I did the original post for, thankyou for playing ... you get a gold star
  • R. Nestofa... 2012/05/25 18:06:00
    R.
    I'm glad to see you have rested up and are feeling better.
  • Shovel ... R. 2012/05/23 20:44:27
  • DS in Oak Ridge NC 2012/05/23 12:49:06 (edited)
    Undecided
    DS in Oak Ridge NC
    +8
    Depends on what they based the claim of verification. A Certificate of Live Birth only means a child was presented for documentation, and are granted irrespective of the place (city or country) of birth. Hawaii has the means to put an end to it, but has been resisting. A real BC would do the trick, and if the BC states the father was African, not a US citizen, Obama is safer with a COLB that reveals less (potentially damaging) info.
    Besides, even Obama's publisher listed him as Kenyan for years and years without a request to correct. That makes Obama and his publisher the original Birthers, eh?
  • Nestofa... DS in O... 2012/05/23 12:53:51
    Nestofasssps
    she corrected it herself. about the booklet.
    Hawaii, just verified it for the twit who is clamouring to take obama off the ballot!
    read!!!
  • Sport_G... Nestofa... 2012/05/23 13:35:04
    Sport_Geoff
    +4
    Richard Nixon - I am not a crook - ooops, he was

    Bill Clinton - I did not have sex with that woman - oops he did

    Now, naturally the author of the booklet is surely held to a higher standard than two presidents testifying before congress....so your right..it was a mistake (one left up for 17 years) she has come back a corrected her statement and thats all the proof anyone needs right?
  • Schläue~© Sport_G... 2012/05/23 13:53:52
    Schläue~©
    +3
    Not to mention, from the hundreds of nations on the planet, she just pulled 'Kenya' out of a hat and it's merely a 'coincidence'.
  • Sport_G... Schläue~© 2012/05/23 14:02:47
    Sport_Geoff
    +1
    Kenya......... Hawaii?....I can see where their close proximity would create some confusion and cause someone to reference the wrong place.......can't you? What is so funny about this is if the liberals believe her now then what does it say about Obama and his willingness to tell any lie he believes benefits him? Not too many ways for them to spin this it appears as Obama comes off looking like either an illegal president or a Chicago liberal scumbag.
  • Schläue~© Sport_G... 2012/05/23 14:27:38
    Schläue~©
    +3
    I'm fairly sure that the REAL b/c will show he was in fact born in Kenya and that his Grandmother 'registered' his birth with the Hawaii dept, of Health a few days later.

    That info is automatically provided to local newspapers by the DOH and listed along with obituaries in generic form. Notice that all births listed in that same column are worded in similar fashion and not a result of family members posting an announcement.

    That was allowed in 1961 because Hawaii had recently become a state and there were many living on the islands who had no formal ID.
    Line #29 on the long form is used for this purpose, where the person providing the vital information is listed.

    It's also a 'coincidence' that the micro-film roll for inbound flight records to Honolulu the week of Aug. 1 - 8, 1961 are conveniently missing. All rolls for the time before and after are intact, only that one week is unaccounted for.
  • Tasine Sport_G... 2012/05/23 19:20:15
    Tasine
    +2
    Can you accept that he is both illegal President AND Chicago liberal scumbag? Might want to alter that to Chicago Marxist scumbag?
  • keymanjim Nestofa... 2012/05/23 13:35:42
    keymanjim
    +4
    After 16 years. Right before the idea that obama was born in Kenya would be detrimental to his presidential aspirations. Why would she wait all those years only to spontaneously change it when he decided to run for the office? How would she know that it needed to be changed? Where did she get the idea that he was born in Kenya?
    Oh, well, Just another in a long line of coincidences that is the entirety of obama's life.
    Right up there with his Connecticut social security number when he never lived in that state.
    Or, the date stamp on his selective service registration card that only shows "80" instead of "1980" like everyone else.
    Or, his magical birth certificate that, when sent through a scanner, kept the background hatch weave pattern as one complete layer when no other semi-detailed document has ever done so when scanned.
    Can I get you another glass?
    scanner background hatch weave pattern layer semi-detailed document scanned glass
  • Tasine Nestofa... 2012/05/23 19:17:46
    Tasine
    +1
    Wonder why she "corrected it" after so many years have passed. Do not kid yourself - we on SH are not the only ones who question lil old secretive Barry. Someone who cannot decide upon an alias should not be trusted.
  • Che Guevara - Hero 2012/05/23 12:44:06
    They could show a video of his mother giving birth on Kilauea and they still ...
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +4
    The Birthers Are Nuts
    birthers retarded

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